welshbairn Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Detournement said: We had to take a 90 minute break so we could work for another 30 minutes. Sounds legit. Is the 90 minutes from the leaked schedule? From the video through the window it looked like he was still working between munches and swigs, not like any party I'd want an invite to. I thought getting the police involved for No 10 was daft too, just a delay to stop the internal report coming out. Having police decide whether they want to charge someone a year after something that would only have merited a warning at the time is dumb, and all about political control over the police. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Iain Dale on LBC saying this whole farce all started because the SNP complained to the Met that Boris's parties should be investigated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: No. They didn't admit Rayner was there until months later and confronted with direct photo evidence by the Mail. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/labour-admits-rayner-beergate-event-104357823.html Edit: i might not be right about the timing but I have heard it repeated on Sky News in an interview with Wes Streeting (c**t) Further edit: it seems the Mail asked about Rayner and her attendance was denied in January and the Mail held onto the denial to publish later because they knew it was a lie. I don't get the motive in denying Raynor was there, sounds more like a fuckup to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Iain Dale on LBC saying this whole farce all started because the SNP complained to the Met that Boris's parties should be investigated. This would make it even funnier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 It's all gone a bit "The Thick of It"... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Given how much he has upped the ante Starmer better hope that the Mail isn't sitting on photos of him breaking lockdown to pump Jenny Chapman. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Did he have curry and beers before he knocked over that deliveroo cyclist a while back ? Absolutely not imo, but I'm sure the Daily Mail will ask the question on their front page a week before the next election if he lasts that long. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 The only thing that annoys me about this whole situation is how now some can frame the alledged breaches as an equivalent scenario... Boris is the one that continously mislead parliament and let's not forget the massive difference being he's the moron that actually set the rules that he broke himself. I don't actually think every politican that may have broken any rules should automatically resign but I think there's no solid argument that the PM shouldn't be held to a higher standard either way. I think a reasonable way to frame it is, if it had been widely reported at the time, would Johnson have been forced into resignation? The answer there is undoubtedly yes. The general public were sitting at opposite ends of park benches with one parent at a time, and Johnson was gathering everyone round to watch him blow out his candles. That photo of the little garden party, which isn’t even one of the events the police are bothered about, would probably have done it on its own. Would Starmer have been forced to resign if it had been widely reported at the time? Well, it was! And the police said there was nothing to worry about at the time as well. Imagine going back to April 2021 and being told this time next year, that event that Starmer has already been cleared for will bring him down. Wild stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albus Bulbasaur Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 30 minutes ago, Paco said: I think a reasonable way to frame it is, if it had been widely reported at the time, would Johnson have been forced into resignation? The answer there is undoubtedly yes. The general public were sitting at opposite ends of park benches with one parent at a time, and Johnson was gathering everyone round to watch him blow out his candles. That photo of the little garden party, which isn’t even one of the events the police are bothered about, would probably have done it on its own. Would Starmer have been forced to resign if it had been widely reported at the time? Well, it was! And the police said there was nothing to worry about at the time as well. Imagine going back to April 2021 and being told this time next year, that event that Starmer has already been cleared for will bring him down. Wild stuff. Agree 100% nothing I can really add but one of the things that I've found utterly ridiculous yet not surprising was the Daily Mail doing a front page 3 weeks back about how the country needs to focus on Ukraine and move past partygate and here we are in the present and they've been blowing their load every day over every totally insignificant update regarding "beergate" 20 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: ..and yet you yourself call the fat cűnt by his stage name. How easy to manipulate we are. I dunno, I call Nicola Sturgeon "Nicola" quite a lot and refer to Keir Starmer as "Keir" often so I'm not sure what this grand manipulation is other than I sometimes call politicians by the first name... If I was speaking to someone in a different setting I'd probably use the full name but on here it's just easier as a mobile poster and everyone knows who I'm referring to. The point of my post was that the fat c***s by far more at fault out of all of this and should resign, which he won't unless he knows he'll be kicked out because he's got zero integrity and is generally quite a detestable individual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Starmer going would be good for the Labour Party and for the U.K. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Starmer going would be good for the Labour Party and for the U.K. Resigning as leader and crossing the floor would be better. Scenes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 How can Sir Keir Starmer ever be trusted to look after are country after this reckless gamble ? I would no sooner hand him the keys to my Kia, than are precious Trident nuclear weapons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 45 minutes ago, Detective Jimmy McNulty said: How can Sir Keir Starmer ever be trusted to look after are country after this reckless gamble ? I would no sooner hand him the keys to my Kia, than are precious Trident nuclear weapons. I'm no great fan of Starmer, but he is not a stupid man. He would not offer to resign if he actually believed he'd be fined. Would not surprise me if he is able to proved beyond doubt that it was all work related. By offering to resign, he backs Bojo into a corner now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 50 minutes ago, Detective Jimmy McNulty said: How can Sir Keir Starmer ever be trusted to look after are country after this reckless gamble ? I would no sooner hand him the keys to my Kia, than are precious Trident nuclear weapons. Seriously? BoJo is such an eejit if he said he was going to nuke Moscow, folk in Ayrshire would s#it themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Theyellowbox said: I'm no great fan of Starmer, but he is not a stupid man. He would not offer to resign if he actually believed he'd be fined. Would not surprise me if he is able to proved beyond doubt that it was all work related. 6 more weeks of this. 9 minutes ago, Theyellowbox said: By offering to resign, he backs Bojo into a corner now. He's already been found out to have misled on the Rayner thing and that the event was preplanned, that's what the tories will focus on. You think Johnson is going to magically fall on his sword ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 4 hours ago, doulikefish said: All the labour types that were promoting the press attacks about Corbyn can't believe how easy it has been to destroy Sir Keir .This finishes with his resignation the attack dogs are off the leash This is about the size of it. Seeing the likes of Streeting, Nandy, Phillips and a parade of Guardian and Mirror journalists criticising the dishonesty and bad faith of people using this to knobble Starmer while clearly not giving a f**k about the underlying issue - some nutter pundit even described this as the worst partisan attack a leader of the opposition has ever faced from the British press - is simply extremely funny after the conduct of the same people over the last 7 years. I was under the impression that believing negative stories could be created by the press out of thin air was a sure sign of dangerous Stalinist cranks who are a genuine threat to democracy and a free press? Keir Starmer deports people over a scoop of ice cream, locks them up for months for stealing a bottle of water and tried to deliver an autistic man to life imprisonment in the US, being absolutely furious when a bleeding heart liberal like, er, Theresa May intervened to stop him. Going by his standards the proportionate response to him having a curry would an extraordinary rendition to be waterboarded by the CIA. If he ends up resigning then good, f**k him. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albus Bulbasaur Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, Detective Jimmy McNulty said: 6 more weeks of this. He's already been found out to have misled on the Rayner thing and that the event was preplanned, that's what the tories will focus on. You think Johnson is going to magically fall on his sword ? Do you think he wouldn't fall on his sword if he was aware he would probably lose a vote of no confidence? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Albus Bulbasaur said: I dunno, I call Nicola Sturgeon "Nicola" quite a lot and refer to Keir Starmer as "Keir" often so I'm not sure what this grand manipulation is other than I sometimes call politicians by the first name... Yes but Johnston’s first name is Alexander. You can use Alex for short if you want. The boris stuff is simply spin by him and his staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albus Bulbasaur Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, parsforlife said: Yes but Johnston’s first name is Alexander. You can use Alex for short if you want. The boris stuff is simply spin by him and his staff. If I had referred to Boris Johnson as Alexander in my post that would be more likely to confuse people... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I might create a new Twitter account and do WRK's bit about going insane when anyone types Boris but the twist is I'm doing to it right wingers and centrist melts who posts about Stalin or Stalinism. "His name is fucking Jughashvili you idiot. By calling him Man Of Steel you are just playing the Bolshevik trickster's game." 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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