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27 minutes ago, Steelly said:

Spineless, the irony, you could not admit you were wrong, now that's spineless.

And I'm still waiting for you to point out the rabid right wing policies from Reform. You said you read their policies so it shouldn't be  hard to do. 

To start with. Their policy of shale gas production. Expansion of oil and gas fields, re starting coal mining.

Introducing private firms into NGS at the cost of 30 billion to the public purse. All policies to make money for money people.

Environmentally disastrousfor the country.

Regards NHS, the quickest way to totally privatise it 

All extreme right wing policies that you behold to.

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22 minutes ago, Steelly said:

Ffs 🙈

That is your Labour Party under Starmer for you.

Will he be abandoned like Rochdale candidate was or told, dont be a naughty boy again. But don't worry the Scots are an inconsequential bunch who will blindly follow our puppets in the Scottish branch.

But, you of course want this kind of leadership in Scotland.

 

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4 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said:

That is your Labour Party under Starmer for you.

Will he be abandoned like Rochdale candidate was or told, dont be a naughty boy again. But don't worry the Scots are an inconsequential bunch who will blindly follow our puppets in the Scottish branch.

But, you of course want this kind of leadership in Scotland.

 

I would like Reform to win in scotland but that will not happen. The only way to get the snp out is to vote Labour. 

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14 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said:

To start with. Their policy of shale gas production. Expansion of oil and gas fields, re starting coal mining.

Introducing private firms into NGS at the cost of 30 billion to the public purse. All policies to make money for money people.

Environmentally disastrousfor the country.

Regards NHS, the quickest way to totally privatise it 

All extreme right wing policies that you behold to.

They are not extreme right wing policies.

And Reform do not want to totally privatise the NHS. There idea for people to get quicker care is excellent. The NHS already uses private firms in both Scotland and England.

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3 minutes ago, Steelly said:

They are not extreme right wing policies.

And Reform do not want to totally privatise the NHS. There idea for people to get quicker care is excellent. The NHS already uses private firms in both Scotland and England.

Fracking is well known for its dangers, physically and environmentally.

They do not believe in de carbonisation of the atmosphere. They are extreme right wing policies.

And as an extremeright wing party, they would only accelerate the privitisation of the NHS.

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1 minute ago, Highlandmagar said:

Fracking is well known for its dangers, physically and environmentally.

They do not believe in de carbonisation of the atmosphere. They are extreme right wing policies.

And as an extremeright wing party, they would only accelerate the privitisation of the NHS.

They are not extreme right wing. 

https://www.reformparty.uk/

They have lots of policies that will improve the life of people in the UK. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said:

Worse than a party who almost like for like align themselves to the Tories? Oh dearie me!

The snp are a busted flush. Time to get them out of Holyrood. Look at the state of Scotland. All caused by them. 

Time for change.

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Just now, Highlandmagar said:

Fracking, polluting the atmosphere, privatising the NHS, does not make for improvingpeople's lives.

They are not privatising the NHS anymore than the snp are. 

They have a policy that if you do not get the help you need in a certain time you will get a voucher to go private. That will improve people's lifes.

And getting cheaper energy will definitely improve people's lifes.

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9 minutes ago, Steelly said:

The snp are a busted flush. Time to get them out of Holyrood. Look at the state of Scotland. All caused by them. 

Time for change.

The Labour Party would not improve Scotland. They have no interest in doing so. They never have done.They only care about the English electorate which they will keep sweet.

They may have 2 terms then it will be an even more reactionary Tory party back in power.

The only way is an independent Scotland with an eventual realignment of political parties.

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8 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said:

The Labour Party would not improve Scotland. They have no interest in doing so. They never have done.They only care about the English electorate which they will keep sweet.

They may have 2 terms then it will be an even more reactionary Tory party back in power.

The only way is an independent Scotland with an eventual realignment of political parties.

You do not know they would not improve Scotland and to say they have no interest in doing so and never have is nonsence. As is saying all they care about is the English. 

Who knows how many terms they will get, if any at all. If they do get in they surely cannot be any worse than the Conservatives or the snp. 

As for independence, that thankfully is not happening any time soon, thank you snp, you have put that on the back burner for a long time. 

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29 minutes ago, Steelly said:

The snp are a busted flush. Time to get them out of Holyrood. Look at the state of Scotland. All caused by them. 

Time for change.

This makes absolutely no sense. You can't put the entire blame on a party in a devolved government who do not hold a majority and do not have anywhere near the power to have that sort accountability you are claiming.

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4 minutes ago, Steelly said:

You do not know they would not improve Scotland and to say they have no interest in doing so and never have is nonsence. As is saying all they care about is the English. 

Who knows how many terms they will get, if any at all. If they do get in they surely cannot be any worse than the Conservatives or the snp. 

As for independence, that thankfully is not happening any time soon, thank you snp, you have put that on the back burner for a long time. 

Labour will be as bad as the Conservatives in so far as their policies align. There's no time to pussy-foot around to see if they can make any improvements.  

We in Scotland are saddled to a deeply unserious joke of a country that's dragging us down. Whether you like it or not the English have a stauner for voting for gimps and that won't change.

We need independence now. 

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