Venti Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 5 minutes ago, scottsdad said: They will fall again into the old trap of getting the big name, successful club manager. They need a "name". Southgate was an unusual appointment in this regard, and he has been their least unsuccessful manager in my lifetime. Yes, he was jammy. But on the flip side his players are mostly loser EPL dugshite. Compare what he had to work with with, say, the mid-2000s team, they are far lower quality player for player. They'll try a Klopp, Mourinho or someone when Carsley would be better. They'll be getting Yogi. Shree Lions on eh Shirt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudia Gentile Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Nigel VARage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 14 minutes ago, Venti said: They'll be getting Yogi. Shree Lions on eh Shirt. They better bloody not. Who would I vote for in various polls? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Just now, scottsdad said: They better bloody not. Who would I vote for in various polls? Guid oanest Fawkirk laddie wid ken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 I'm delighted that Southgate has resigned as he's gotten too close to winning a trophy. Jamie Carragher nailed it on the head yesterday when he asked "Who would want the job?" Gareth Southgate reached one quarter final, one semi and two finals. The above has been viewed as failure by the mass majority of England fans. The next manager will be required to win a trophy to be seen as a success. That's a massive amount of entitlement and arrogance by the English fans. Looking at all the stats of the Euro 24 final, England were battered by all metrics. Possession, Spain had 63%, England had 37%. England had 81% pass success rate, Spain had 91%, Spain attempted 544 passes, England with 303. England had 19 passes in the three final 3rd, Spain had 6. The aforementioned isn't a Gareth Southgate issue. Its a player issue. it's a fact that England players just are not good enough on the ball. Their Euro 24 central midfield is a water carrier (Rice) and a player who has just finished his debut senior season (Mainoo). Compare that to Spain who have the best 6 in the world and Fabian Ruiz who was absolutely sensation. England are a gift that keep on giving. In the next few years this will a lesson of "Be careful of what you wish for". The England fans wanted this. If they think the next England manager is going to win trophies in prime Brazil fashion, they're wrong. It'll be amusing to see what happens next. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 17 minutes ago, Chripper said: I'm delighted that Southgate has resigned as he's gotten too close to winning a trophy. Jamie Carragher nailed it on the head yesterday when he asked "Who would want the job?" Gareth Southgate reached one quarter final, one semi and two finals. The above has been viewed as failure by the mass majority of England fans. The next manager will be required to win a trophy to be seen as a success. That's a massive amount of entitlement and arrogance by the English fans. Looking at all the stats of the Euro 24 final, England were battered by all metrics. Possession, Spain had 63%, England had 37%. England had 81% pass success rate, Spain had 91%, Spain attempted 544 passes, England with 303. England had 19 passes in the three final 3rd, Spain had 6. The aforementioned isn't a Gareth Southgate issue. Its a player issue. it's a fact that England players just are not good enough on the ball. Their Euro 24 central midfield is a water carrier (Rice) and a player who has just finished his debut senior season (Mainoo). Compare that to Spain who have the best 6 in the world and Fabian Ruiz who was absolutely sensation. England are a gift that keep on giving. In the next few years this will a lesson of "Be careful of what you wish for". The England fans wanted this. If they think the next England manager is going to win trophies in prime Brazil fashion, they're wrong. It'll be amusing to see what happens next. Tbf mate we dont need an essay about how shite England are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Has Eddie Howe had success in a job where he wasn’t spending loads on players? Even his Bournemouth team broke financial rules getting out the EFL. Not saying he’s shite but I don’t think he’s the level English media hype him up to be. I think he’d fail if he was England manager so I hope they go for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) "I'm not a racist, some of my best managerial wishlist choices for the England job are practically English!" edit: lol i hadnt scrolled to the bottom Sir Richard of Keyes is amazing. Edited July 16 by Thistle_do_nicely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Plus, one of the biggest issue facing England is that they've always been blessed with a world class striker being replaced by a world class striker: Lineker -> Shearer-> Owen -> Rooney -> Kane. Now there's no one. It should've been Mason Greenwood. But because of outside reasons, it won't be. Plus, if recent reports are to be believed about Bellingham (which I can believe), he's going to be a nightmare to deal with and get under control. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 The FA are obviously not scared of going down the forrin route. Although both times they went for someone with no connection or experience of English football. I wonder if the likes of Guardiola and Klopp would be put off, already knowing the batshit crazy nature of the media. Sir Nigel Cardigan was an internal promotion and I reckon they might follow that by appointing Carsley. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, scottsdad said: They'll try a Klopp, Mourinho or someone when Carsley would be better. An elite manager would have been able to set up England tactically to beat Spain. Maybe Carsley could do that, but Klopp or mourinho certainly could. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, sparky88 said: An elite manager would have been able to set up England tactically to beat Spain. Maybe Carsley could do that, but Klopp or mourinho certainly could. They have had elite managers and they have all been pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) No Tommy Robinson or even a Nigel Farage, get it sorted @Ludo*1 list is practically full of woke nobodies Edited July 16 by gannonball 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: "I'm not a racist, some of my best managerial wishlist choices for the England job are practically English!" edit: lol i hadnt scrolled to the bottom Sir Richard of Keyes is amazing. “If I had my way I’d camp in the grounds of Klopp’s Mallorca mansion until he said ‘yes’” isn’t a creepy comment at all…. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, scottsdad said: They have had elite managers and they have all been pish. They've not had players as good as they have currently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 It's Eddie Howe's to refuse. English White From the home counties 4-4-2 Plays English lads like Longstaff and Dan Burn Loves a bit of Brexit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Brendan Rodgers for me. For the lulz, obviously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 10 hours ago, Cheese said: The FA are obviously not scared of going down the forrin route. Although both times they went for someone with no connection or experience of English football. Why is/was that important? They'll be playing Spain or Brazil, not Ipswich Town. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Stuart Baxter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Any English person thinking it might be Klopp is deluding themeselves. He is in the prime of his managerial career and has the pick of pretty much any club job in the world. Then you have the LIverpool/England stuff and him being German I imagine it will be Carsley for a fairly uninspiring few years before the pressure builds to get in a bigger name before Euro 2028. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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