Melanius Mullarkey Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 On 18/07/2024 at 17:27, HeartsOfficialMoaner said: It should be someone that has worked in England and at Champions League level. I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 18 minutes ago, Stag Nation said: Why? He will know the players as the English players mostly play in England. He will know the opponents as he has already competed against them at club level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 I didn’t see that Yogi was an option, so I went for Jose. Think he’d be a laugh. Danger he might be good though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 9 hours ago, The Master said: They've actually gone and advertised the position. https://careers.thefa.com/jobs/vacancy/england-mens-senior-team-head-coach-nfcsgp0377-national-football-centre-st-georges-park/2137/description/ All that's missing is "£Competitive". I’ve applied 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 7 hours ago, Richey Edwards said: Poisoned chalice IMO. It really is. It’s been made perfectly clear that anything short of winning the World Cup in 26 is a managerial failure based on the fact that they’ve got to 2 European finals in a row. I’m not sure why they can’t just aspire to bring in a manager who can get the best out of these players rather than this unrealistic demand of instant success. I think they’re 5 th favourites at the moment and that’s being kind to them. Spain are now the team to beat, then Argentina can’t be written off and will be at an advantage with it being in America, Germany and France (if they can get their act together) will all be more likely to win than England. Then the likes of Brazil and Italy and a few dark horses could prove very difficult for this England team. I can’t see them being anywhere near winning it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 (edited) 5 hours ago, throbber said: It really is. It’s been made perfectly clear that anything short of winning the World Cup in 26 is a managerial failure based on the fact that they’ve got to 2 European finals in a row. I’m not sure why they can’t just aspire to bring in a manager who can get the best out of these players rather than this unrealistic demand of instant success. I think they’re 5 th favourites at the moment and that’s being kind to them. Spain are now the team to beat, then Argentina can’t be written off and will be at an advantage with it being in America, Germany and France (if they can get their act together) will all be more likely to win than England. Then the likes of Brazil and Italy and a few dark horses could prove very difficult for this England team. I can’t see them being anywhere near winning it. nothing to worry about for 2026 but i think they will be very dangerous at euro 28 yet again another home tournament. They went very very close last time and I suspect that by then they will have a top manager in place i.e. guardiola. Edited July 20 by blackbird 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 That's the thing, I heard that the FA were willing to offer Southgate a 6 year extension and a huge pay rise to stay. It's not the FA who create the toxic atmosphere around the gig. In their eyes, Southgate was a resounding success. It's the media that creates the vortex of toxicity and negativity that surrounds the Men's English national team. The media build up England players like they're all world class. They make the English public believe in their propaganda. Then when said players inevitably fail to reach the impossible standards set by the media, the media aren't backwards about coming forwards where it comes to tearing down the players. I partly blame the England fans for being so gullible and weak minded as to believe the media's hype. it's a classic case of mass hysteria. It happens every two years. Personally, I hope that Guardiola gets the gig as it'll prove that this England team aren't as good as the media portray it to be (Pre-tournament). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Just say 'Will be woke', lads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 55 minutes ago, blackbird said: nothing to worry about for 2026 but i think they will be very dangerous at euro 28 yet again another home tournament. They went very very close last time and I suspect that by then they will have a top manager in place i.e. guardiola. Oh who knows - it’s still the same English 3 that are favourites to take over and then it’s Poch with Guardiola at 28/1 I wouldn’t worry about him taking the job. I was 9 In euro 96 when I’d first realised how unbearable England were and was relieved they got knocked out a tournament. I’ll be 39 when they’re at their next tournament and I could easily be 69 watching them with the exact same feelings of concern about them eventually getting the monkey off their back and actually winning one. Its pretty funny tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 7 hours ago, throbber said: It really is. It’s been made perfectly clear that anything short of winning the World Cup in 26 is a managerial failure based on the fact that they’ve got to 2 European finals in a row. I’m not sure why they can’t just aspire to bring in a manager who can get the best out of these players rather than this unrealistic demand of instant success. I think they’re 5 th favourites at the moment and that’s being kind to them. Spain are now the team to beat, then Argentina can’t be written off and will be at an advantage with it being in America, Germany and France (if they can get their act together) will all be more likely to win than England. Then the likes of Brazil and Italy and a few dark horses could prove very difficult for this England team. I can’t see them being anywhere near winning it. They have to qualify first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 On 20/07/2024 at 18:12, throbber said: Oh who knows - it’s still the same English 3 that are favourites to take over and then it’s Poch with Guardiola at 28/1 I wouldn’t worry about him taking the job. I was 9 In euro 96 when I’d first realised how unbearable England were and was relieved they got knocked out a tournament. I’ll be 39 when they’re at their next tournament and I could easily be 69 watching them with the exact same feelings of concern about them eventually getting the monkey off their back and actually winning one. Its pretty funny tbh. Talksport are already making a case for winning the euros in 2028 and giving a pass for whatever poor results comes in 2026. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaCider Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Mike Bassett the only man for the job surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Nevio Scala. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Carsley makes sense, to be honest. International football is increasingly its own beast, and taking an elite coach used to being able to mould a squad perfectly might not be the best approach. A couple of English journalists I've heard talking about this recently have mentioned that while the FA stumbled into Southgate due to circumstances, they view his relative success as evidence that they should be carrying on with the England DNA thing. Carsley makes sense from that point of view as well, being from within. If they appoint a proper big name, it also brings constant speculation that he's off to Chelsea/Man Utd etc etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Just now, TheScarf said: Nevio Scala. I believe he's unavailable as he's crossing the Ts and dotting the Is on his Hearts contract. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Joe Biden 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Melanius Mullarkey Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 11 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I'd be happy with that tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 (edited) On 20/07/2024 at 19:52, Jacksgranda said: They have to qualify first. This is a big thing that the English media appear to have overlooked. The international calendar strongly hints that UEFA want to use the (interim) Nations League ranking to seed the World Cup qualifying draw in December. FIFA recently updated their regulations to allow this. If that happens, England can be no higher than pot 2 (they could drop into pot 3 with a disastrous Nations League campaign, but I’m sure even they can’t f**k up the group they’ve got). With only the group winners qualifying automatically, draw Spain from pot 1 and they’d be looking at the play-offs. Seeding should give them a home semi-final, but a toss of a coin could mean an away final against a difficult nation. Of course, we all know they’ll simply draw us as the pot 1 team… Edited July 22 by The Master 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 20 hours ago, VincentGuerin said: Carsley makes sense, to be honest. International football is increasingly its own beast, and taking an elite coach used to being able to mould a squad perfectly might not be the best approach. A couple of English journalists I've heard talking about this recently have mentioned that while the FA stumbled into Southgate due to circumstances, they view his relative success as evidence that they should be carrying on with the England DNA thing. Carsley makes sense from that point of view as well, being from within. If they appoint a proper big name, it also brings constant speculation that he's off to Chelsea/Man Utd etc etc. England appointing their version of Scotland Gemmill sounds ideal tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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