NorthernLights Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Have we reached the point of the season where Leeds shit the bed yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Good win tonight, just when the usual jitters were starting (again). This year’s Championship title race is going to be a cracker, hopefully Leeds will stay in the mix. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Melanius Mullarkey Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 On 23/09/2018 at 22:34, NorthernLights said: Have we reached the point of the season where Leeds shit the bed yet? It appears so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Are Leeds going up ? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Bridge Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, Rab B Nesbit said: Are Leeds going up ? No. Maybe they should try one of the great Don Revie's favourite tactics, bribery. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repeat_offender Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 48 minutes ago, Rab B Nesbit said: Are Leeds going up ? Too early to say, trounced by the better side yesterday. Everything we're hearing from the club points to very little happening in terms of squad additions in January, if our rivals spend well promotion becomes that bit harder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repeat_offender Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 39 minutes ago, Crawford Bridge said: No. Maybe they should try one of the great Don Revie's favourite tactics, bribery. Remind me, how much did that accusation cost the mirror? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Bridge Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, repeat_offender said: Remind me, how much did that accusation cost the mirror? He ran away to Abu Dhabi instead of pursuing his case against The Mirror. You're thinking of Billy Bremner and The People newspaper. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repeat_offender Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Crawford Bridge said: He ran away to Abu Dhabi instead of pursuing his case against The Mirror. You're thinking of Billy Bremner and The People newspaper. Weren't the Sunday People part of mirror group back then. Bremner chose to tackle the accusations made against LUFC , the court found in his favour & he was awarded 100K, quite a sum for the time. Re Revie, I'd say he took the job in the UAE because he knew he was about to get the bullet from the blazers at the FA. https://sabotagetimes.com/football/leeds-united-don-revie-and-a-40-year-old-slur Quote Even as Elland Road celebrated the 50th anniversary of Don Revie’s appointment as Leeds United manager, the cheating jibe still rears its ugly head... Some people just won’t let it go. Some 22 years after his death, and 37 after he left his post as manager of Leeds United, the merest mention of Don Revie has some people reaching for the thesaurus in search of synonyms for the word “cheat”. From Fleet Street to FourFourTwo, the club’s decade of dominance in the late 60s and early 70s is still shrouded in accusations of on-field brutality and off-field bribery. Don Revie, they continue to argue, disgraced the game by fixing matches. For instance, former Mirror journalist Roy Greenslade chose to mark the 50th anniversary of his appointment as Leeds manager in March by warming over the accusations for the Guardian. He cited the existence of a 315-page dossier of Revie’s dodgy dealings compiled by former colleague Richard Stott and then rehashed claims that cash incentives were offered to the Wolves team before the final game of the 1971/72 season, when a point would have secured Leeds a League and Cup double. Despite the fact that such accusations have been repeatedly debunked, once in front of a judge, it is necessary for Leeds fans to keep debunking them. After all, the man who succumbed to motor neurone disease at the age of 61 is no longer able to do it himself. ADVERTISEMENT It was The Sunday People that first aired the charges in 1972, suggesting Wolves players had been offered £1,000 to back off a Leeds side still recovering from their FA Cup triumph over Arsenal just 48 hours earlier. The article prompted investigations by both the FA and the police, but neither found Revie had a case to answer. The fact that Wolves had actually won the game 2-1 – with key witness Frank Munro scoring the first goal – seemed to confirm the charges had little substance. Sprake makes a particularly unreliable witness. Not only did his memory mysteriously desert him when under oath, his biography admits he was upset that that a testimonial promised when he was transferred to Birmingham in 1973 never happened Five years later, as Revie walked out on the England job and headed for Dubai, sister paper The Mirror repeated the claims, adding United’s goalkeeper Gary Sprake as a star witness and widening the charges to five matches going back to 1962. Frank Munro and Danny Hegen insisted they’d been offered money to give away penalties at Molineux, while Bob Stokoe said that Revie, at the very beginning of his managerial career, had offered him cash so his Bury side would “go easy” in a Second Division relegation scrap. Revie reportedly considered suing, but cushioned by his tax-free challenge in the sunshine he instead focused his legal efforts on overturning the FA’s 10-year ban. In early 1982, though, there would be a court case. When The Sunday People aired the accusations a third time, now claiming that Billy Bremner tried to tap up Hegen from his pre-match hotel, the pugnacious former Leeds skipper finally brought a libel suit. For those hoping for definitive proof of Revie’s corruption, the trial didn’t go well. During the Old Bailey battle, Bremner vs Oldhams Newspapers and Danny Hegen, the latter, an alcoholic, was deemed unfit to give evidence, Sprake declared he couldn’t remember his original claims, and Derek Dougan, Wolves widely respected captain, asserted that he never heard any mention of bribes. On February 3rd, the jury took just two hours to find in Bremner’s favour and award near-record damages of £100,000. Perhaps most importantly, though, Oldhams Newspapers never produced the famed dossier, supposedly authored by one of their senior employers, and nor was it mentioned when Revie successfully sued the FA to overturn his ban. The FA continues to deny that such a dossier ever actually existed. Indeed, a trial that was supposed to reveal Revie’s venality merely underlined the sleazy world of newspaper exclusives. It emerged that Frank Munro only agreed to give evidence after The People had forked out £4,000 to fly him and his family over from Australia, and that quotes from both Danny Hegen, by then scraping a living as a Butlin’s Redcoat in Coatbridge, and Gary Sprake had clearly been teased out by cash incentives – £7,500 in the case of the Leeds keeper. Despite the fact that such accusations have been repeatedly debunked, once in front of a judge, it is necessary for Leeds fans to keep debunking them. After all, the man who succumbed to motor neurone disease at the age of 61 is no longer able to do it himself. Sprake makes a particularly unreliable witness. Not only did his memory mysteriously desert him when under oath, his biography admits he was upset that that a testimonial promised when he was transferred to Birmingham in 1973 never happened– a costly breach of trust for any footballer in the 1970s. In the same book, he also asserts that any attempts at bribery were “doomed to fail” because it riled the opposition. Well, exactly. Leeds lost the notorious Wolves game, were hammered 4-1 by Southampton in another supposed fixed game in 1962, and drew twice against Stokoe’s fellow strugglers Bury in the same season. So, not only did the notorious match-fixer not actually fix any matches, Sprake is asking us to believe that the meticulous Revie would keep pursuing a tactic that never once succeeded. Indeed, considering Leeds kept coming second – five times in the league in eight seasons, three times in the FA Cup and twice in Europe – the club didn’t seem to have financially-induced fate on its side. And if the charges are true, two league titles, two European trophies, an FA Cup and League Cup would require bribing more than a solitary Black Country drunk. So why haven’t they appeared? Edited November 11, 2018 by repeat_offender 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALMOT Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 https://www.leedsunited.com/video/101850/eddie-and-frank-gray-part-one https://www.leedsunited.com/video/101848/eddie-and-frank-gray-part-two https://www.leedsunited.com/video/101849/eddie-and-frank-gray-part-three Three great interviews with the Gray brothers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALMOT Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Happy Birthday to Leeds and Scotland Legend Peter Lorimer who is 72 today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALMOT Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 https://twitter.com/i/status/1073540495572434944 Some of his great goals are on the link above 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 @Marshmallo loves the Leeds ... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Another away win at the weekend as Norwich drop two, seeing Leeds go top! Good stuff[emoji106] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I follow a Leeds fan on Twitter. What a journey it's been reading this Tweets over the last 3 or 4 seasons. So many false dawns for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 https://www.leedsunited.com/news/team-news/24274/samuel-saiz-to-join-getafe-cfWhat happened to this boy? Mind seeing him a couple of time’s and he looked class. Just not the right fit under Bielsa? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond8 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 https://www.leedsunited.com/news/team-news/24274/samuel-saiz-to-join-getafe-cfWhat happened to this boy? Mind seeing him a couple of time’s and he looked class. Just not the right fit under Bielsa?Showed signs of being a very good player, very easy on the eye but has also had his fair share of bad games and to add to that he has had disciplinary problems too. Recently he's found himself out of the team, replaced mainly by Adam Forshaw who might have the same ball skill but he adds a bit more physicality which is much needed in a Bielsa team. To add to Forshaw coming good Pablo Hernandez has been incredible so that again makes it tougher to get back in the side. When he has come on though he's been the bright spark that the Leeds fans loved, just last week they were going to offer him new terms but he said he was unsettled and not enjoying England and given that his family is in Spain with his wife due to give birth then you could hardly blame him for feeling this way. On the face of it, it looks a terrible deal for Leeds because he needs replaced straight away but with no fee coming in then who knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALMOT Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 17 hours ago, NJ2 said: https://www.leedsunited.com/news/team-news/24274/samuel-saiz-to-join-getafe-cf What happened to this boy? Mind seeing him a couple of time’s and he looked class. Just not the right fit under Bielsa? His partner was expecting twins but has lost one of them and I think it has affected him. I think they both want to be back in spain nearer their families hence the move. https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/samu-saizs-partner-sends-emotional-15565856 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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