honestly united Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 we still do play A internationals every year (although not as many as we used to), we have turned England over the last few years 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 we still do play A internationals every year (although not as many as we used to), we have turned England over the last few years Thought it had been completely binned in favour of u20s. Actually that might be Welsh. Would like to see a return of the full 6n A tourney. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CK Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Last A fixture was in 2014, wasn't any last year due to RWC affecting the calendar and none announced so far for next year. Usually the weekend or 2 before the 6N starts. Only seems to be us, England and Ireland who have ran A teams in recent years. From around 2007 to 2011 we played 3 A games during the season (once during Autumn Internationals and 2 in 6N period), then usually a tournament in the summer too, but with the Italians joining the Pro12 we don't really have the dates in the calendar any more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 6NA has been binned as not everyone runs a team anymore, think it is only us, England and Ireland that still had a team, but our last games were in 2014. The SRU have taken all reference to the A fixtures & results off their website so looks like we aren't running one anymore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 6NA has been binned as not everyone runs a team anymore, think it is only us, England and Ireland that still had a team, but our last games were in 2014. The SRU have taken all reference to the A fixtures & results off their website so looks like we aren't running one anymore. Think that's a shame. We have a decent amount of players coming through from u20 who could probably benefit from a transition level prior to full squad....guys like Bradbury Kinghorn hastings deans Fagerson horne etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Earls banned for 2 weeks because of a horror tip tackle / Brown throwing himself neck first into the ground (delete depending how Irish you are) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 51 minutes ago, flyingscot said: Earls banned for 2 weeks because of a horror tip tackle / Brown throwing himself neck first into the ground (delete depending how Irish you are) So 2 weeks, or a rest, save on the air fair out to the US and back ready for Irelands home autumn internationals 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 3 hours ago, flyingscot said: Earls banned for 2 weeks because of a horror tip tackle / Brown throwing himself neck first into the ground (delete depending how Irish you are) He should have got an additional punishment for acting like a complete fanny after the red. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Earls banned for 2 weeks because of a horror tip tackle / Brown throwing himself neck first into the ground (delete depending how Irish you are) I agree, but it only serves to show what a scandalous decision it was to only show Toomua a yellow the other week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddfg Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Toomua injured and likely to be out for six months. At least he had the savvy to come out after the game and apologise rather than act like a three year old heading for the naughty step. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarley Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 It also was there 18th test win in a row given them the record out right for a tier 1 nation. They are 6 short of the all time record witch stands at 24 tests and is held by Cyprus. It was also a record for the Aussies as it was the 1st time they have lost more than one 3 test series In a year( the mid year series v England and the Beldisloe cup) Cyprus? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Cyprus? They'd probably beat Scotland, so don't mock. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Cyprus' record was from when they joined World Rugby (or the IRB as it was) so started in the lowest level and worked their way up. They had a decent team with some ex pats compared to the countries they were playing against. Its not like football were world cup qualifying has groups of teams from each pot, its very much set up so the best teams dont have to play any minnows, ever. Teams tend not to play anyone with more than 10 places between them in the rankings. Think Scotland are about 10th and would never play anyone outside the top 20 in the world, which is one of the reason that other countries never get any better. That and if they have any decent players they move to play in a top league and dont get / want to be released to play internationals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Cyprus' record was from when they joined World Rugby (or the IRB as it was) so started in the lowest level and worked their way up. They had a decent team with some ex pats compared to the countries they were playing against. Its not like football were world cup qualifying has groups of teams from each pot, its very much set up so the best teams dont have to play any minnows, ever. Teams tend not to play anyone with more than 10 places between them in the rankings. Think Scotland are about 10th and would never play anyone outside the top 20 in the world, which is one of the reason that other countries never get any better. That and if they have any decent players they move to play in a top league and dont get / want to be released to play internationals. It's a tricky one in terms of development but too big a mismatch can be really dangerous. Might have been a 1999 rwc match when one of the ivory Coast players ended up paralysed. The physical difference between amateur and full time pros is enormous. I'd like to see the current 6n bring in Romania and Georgia perhaps as two leagues of 4 playing home n away. Could even look at a league below that with promotion n relegation. The sh could integrate Fiji Samoa n tonga. At moment the 7s circuit seems to be more proactive in developing small rugby nations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Glasgow putting out a very strong side for the treviso match tomorrow night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Toony is taking the Glasgow fwds n defence coaches with him when he takes over at murrayfield. Bad news is humphreys and the other guy are going to Glasgow. Surely Dave rennie should be picking his own coaching team. Humphreys has been really poor as a fwds coach. This reeks of soundbite Johnsons interference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 It's a tricky one in terms of development but too big a mismatch can be really dangerous. Might have been a 1999 rwc match when one of the ivory Coast players ended up paralysed. The physical difference between amateur and full time pros is enormous. I'd like to see the current 6n bring in Romania and Georgia perhaps as two leagues of 4 playing home n away. Could even look at a league below that with promotion n relegation. The sh could integrate Fiji Samoa n tonga. At moment the 7s circuit seems to be more proactive in developing small rugby nations. True that huge mismatches don't help anyone, but we already have a 6 nations b, and nobody will give them a game to see how big a gap is. Georgia have been excellent for about 10 years and it's only now they are getting games against tier one sides. You look at the challenge cup and there are only 2 qualifiers from rest of the European leagues, this year Einsey and Timisoara. Now there is a 3rd European competition and the top 2 in that play off against Einsey and Timisoara for next years spot, however they have just said that if Einsey get into the quarters they automatically get back in and the two best teams play off for the right to play Timisoara. No mention of maybe the worst English or French team missing out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 True that huge mismatches don't help anyone, but we already have a 6 nations b, and nobody will give them a game to see how big a gap is. Georgia have been excellent for about 10 years and it's only now they are getting games against tier one sides. You look at the challenge cup and there are only 2 qualifiers from rest of the European leagues, this year Einsey and Timisoara. Now there is a 3rd European competition and the top 2 in that play off against Einsey and Timisoara for next years spot, however they have just said that if Einsey get into the quarters they automatically get back in and the two best teams play off for the right to play Timisoara. No mention of maybe the worst English or French team missing out Agree with all that. Would like to see champions cup extended to allow 2 teams per group qualify for knockout stages and then allow more clubs from other nations into challenge cup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The top 4 or 5 countries should have to tour (properly - as in at least two test matches of not more and possibly a wee warm up against a local province/club/region/select/Barbarians team) the next 4 and 5, then they should tour the next 4 or 5 and so on. Having the bigger, more established teams playing away on difficult and unfamiliar surroundings will be more challenging and rewarding for all concerned. Imagine something like: New Zealand, England, Australia, South Africa and Wales touring Ireland, France, Scotland, Argentina and Fiji. Then France, Scotland, Argentina and Fiji touring Georgia Japan, Italy and Samoa... with Tonga, Romania, USA, Canada, Uraguay, Namibia, Russia etc next in the list having home tests against teams just ahead of them in the rankings. OK, so Scotland might not get their occasional humping by the All Blacks when they tour the UK but it would improve the depth of union and make the World Cup much more of a competition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 6 hours ago, honestly united said: Cyprus' record was from when they joined World Rugby (or the IRB as it was) so started in the lowest level and worked their way up. They had a decent team with some ex pats compared to the countries they were playing against. Its not like football were world cup qualifying has groups of teams from each pot, its very much set up so the best teams dont have to play any minnows, ever. Teams tend not to play anyone with more than 10 places between them in the rankings. Think Scotland are about 10th and would never play anyone outside the top 20 in the world, which is one of the reason that other countries never get any better. That and if they have any decent players they move to play in a top league and dont get / want to be released to play internationals. They are not full members of World Rugby yet as they don't meat the criteria membership. As of April of this year they have lost 6 out of 36 games they have played. The 24 game wining run involved them beating Azerbaijan(twice), Monaco(twice),Slovakia(once),Bosnia and Herzegovina(twice), Greece(twice), Bulgaria(4 times), Finland(twice), Luxembourg(twice), Austria(twice), Slovenia(twice), Hungry(twice) and Andorra(once). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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