Rugby Union

[ajwffc]

So odds on Tonga doing this?

[ajwffc]

Tongans in tears during their anthem 

[superwell87]

That was a good try. Nice wee kick forward too.

[ajwffc]

Surely they should be taken a better look at that 

[Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo]

Referee actually penalising SA does make a difference. Who knew?

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

Tonga getting too close. Phantom penalty called.

Tackler was lying on the ball

 

And that clearly hits an arm. FFS

Edited October 1, 2023 by Jim McLean's Ghost

[Jamie_B]

Then a huge slice of luck gives SA a try from nowhere…

[Guest]

That's South African head to Tongan head surely?

[superwell87]

1 minute ago, Autistisches Nilpferd said:

That's South African head to Tongan head surely?

Thats what I was thinking. The Tongan player was not to blame.

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

8 minutes ago, Autistisches Nilpferd said:

That's South African head to Tongan head surely?

Far too often it seems like the refs are there only to look for infringements from who they perceive are the lesser team while they ignore standard infractions from the big side.

[superwell87]

That was a fully deserved Tongan try imo.

[superwell87]

Should a red imo.

[Rossi1990]

Just now, superwell87 said:

Should a red imo.

Interesting way they came to the decision of just a pen 

[superwell87]

1 minute ago, Rossi1990 said:

Interesting way they came to the decision of just a pen 

Yup. I would understand if the offending player was directly pushed into the Tongan player. However. I noticed during one of the last replays shown, the SA player's shoulder actually moved upwards as contact was made. Deliberate foul play.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

As ever SA getting away with murder.

[Mark Connolly]

16 minutes ago, andrew21 said:

So Scotland go through with a six point win against Ireland as South Africa would top the table with best points difference and Scotland win the head to head v Ireland?

No because Ireland would get a losing BP and be on 15 as well

[ajwffc]

We are going to to go out on the most stupid count back reasons it's just the Scottish way

[Mark Connolly]

1 minute ago, andrew21 said:

Someone posted earlier in thee thread that only top place is decided by points differential  and the other places would be decided by head to head?

But we would only have 14

[Gnash]

1 hour ago, andrew21 said:

Fair point, need to score four tries in that scenario then

Afraid not.  If we beat Ireland by 6, even assuming they don't get the try BP, we are definitely out as we'd all (including South Africa) be on 15 points and our points difference would be the worst of the 3 (SA 117, Ireland 116, Scotland 103). 

So we absolutely need to be beat Ireland by 8 points or more.  

If we beat Ireland by 8 or more points and both teams get a try BP, then all 3 teams would finish on 15 points.  In this scenario, Scotland would have to win by 20 (or 21??) to finish ahead of SA and 13 to finish ahead of Ireland.  Either way SA progress to the quarters.  BBC says SA are on the brink of qualifying, but I think it's guaranteed as it's impossible for both Ireland and Scotland to beat them on points difference.

Edited October 1, 2023 by Gnash

[Bully Wee Villa]

Not guaranteed, though. It's very unlikely but if Scotland beat Ireland by more than twenty points and both teams score four or more tries, Scotland win group on points difference, Ireland finish above South Africa by virtue of head-to-head.