topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 29 minutes ago, honestly united said: There were at least 2 over the weekend that went to bunker review and remained a yellow. The one in the wales game I didnt even think it was a yellow as the player was already being tackled and fell into his shoulder and he was already fairly low Well I can discard that hypothesis in response to more data then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignoramus Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I know referees are sometimes a touchy subject on this thread, but appointments for the RWC pools are up: SA v Scotland - Angus Gardner Scotland v Tonga - Karl Dickson Scotland v Romania - Wayne Barnes Ireland v Scotland - Nic Berry Jaco Peyper has the opening game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) No Matt Carley is a huge bonus, as is no Reynal We had Nic Berry for the 2nd France game, I thought he was ok (was he?) Angus Gardner for SA, not sure if that is good or bad Edit to add Gardner did the Italy game is 6Nations so will be re-watching that also Edited August 22, 2023 by honestly united 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Karl Dickson should be nowhere near the RWC refereeing panel. I’d be tempted to prevent him attending any of the games as a spectator as well tbqhwy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, honestly united said: No Matt Carley is a huge bonus, as is no Reynal We had Nic Berry for the 2nd France game, I thought he was ok (was he?) Angus Gardner for SA, not sure if that is good or bad Edit to add Gardner did the Italy game is 6Nations so will be re-watching that also I thought Berry was pretty bad in the second France game, but in a "bad for both teams" kind of way. 24 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Karl Dickson should be nowhere near the RWC refereeing panel. I’d be tempted to prevent him attending any of the games as a spectator as well tbqhwy The one thing about Dickson is that I'm pretty sure he's a big team ref who will happily f**k over the Tongans all day because he assumes it's all their fault. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I quite like Nic Berry. Not a great ref but not one to be easy swayed by just giving the big team the benefit of the doubt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Farrell gets 4 weeks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66581854 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 No surprise. Lucky it's 4 games with an Ireland friendly included. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 11 hours ago, flyingscot said: No surprise. Lucky it's 4 games with an Ireland friendly included. Vunipola on 2 games if he goes to tackling school https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66585194 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 16 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said: I quite like Nic Berry. Not a great ref but not one to be easy swayed by just giving the big team the benefit of the doubt. Thought he was good in Heartbeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensible Soccer🏴 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 15 hours ago, Mark Connolly said: Farrell gets 4 weeks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66581854 That's him missing their 1st two matches of the WC, the Pumas and Japan. They could be pretty tricky games for them in group D. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Sensible Soccer said: That's him missing their 1st two matches of the WC, the Pumas and Japan. They could be pretty tricky games for them in group D. Probably better without him. Might try and play some rugby. Not sure who they'll pick at 8 mind you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 57 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said: Probably better without him. Might try and play some rugby. Not sure who they'll pick at 8 mind you. Lewis Ludlam presumably. But Borthwick said relying on Vunipola wasn't a risk... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 A much stronger team than I expected. Pleased to see White back but why risk him. Wouldn't have Finn, Duhan or Jones anywhere near the starting xv on Saturday 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, jaggyness said: A much stronger team than I expected. Pleased to see White back but why risk him. Wouldn't have Finn, Duhan or Jones anywhere near the starting xv on Saturday Townsend will get pelters if any of them get injured. I'd have thought this would have been one to play your "Starting against Romania" team. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, GAD said: Townsend will get pelters if any of them get injured. I'd have thought this would have been one to play your "Starting against Romania" team. It's a no-win with the team he picks for this game. Last time, they rested the big guns, lost the big games at RWC and got accused of being undercooked. This time, if someone gets injured, it will be "Why the f**k did he pick him for that meaningless game anyway". I think White had to start to get some game time. He's likely the starting 9 at RWC, and has only played that half hour or so against France since the 6th of May 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: It's a no-win with the team he picks for this game. Last time, they rested the big guns, lost the big games at RWC and got accused of being undercooked. This time, if someone gets injured, it will be "Why the f**k did he pick him for that meaningless game anyway". I think White had to start to get some game time. He's likely the starting 9 at RWC, and has only played that half hour or so against France since the 6th of May Yeah, fair enough, White definitely needs the game, and I suppose you want him next to Russell, so you probably want Huwipolutu outside that and so on. Think we could have easily dropped Graham and DVM, and surprised Crosbie and Turner aren't even in the 23. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, GAD said: Yeah, fair enough, White definitely needs the game, and I suppose you want him next to Russell, so you probably want Huwipolutu outside that and so on. Think we could have easily dropped Graham and DVM, and surprised Crosbie and Turner aren't even in the 23. When you look at it, that back line is really strong. With the 7 backs who aren't starting, you could have had Kinghorn, Steyn, Harris, Redpath, Horne, Healy, Price. With the exception of sticking George Horne on the wing because we have 3 scrum halves rather than two distinct backlines, you'd happily start most games with that. Imagine if we had that 2nd-ish string backline in the 2007 RWC - the backline that started the QF against Argentina was R Lamont, S Lamont, Webster, Dewey, Paterson, Parks, Blair. How many of them would honestly be in the squad this time? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: When you look at it, that back line is really strong. With the 7 backs who aren't starting, you could have had Kinghorn, Steyn, Harris, Redpath, Horne, Healy, Price. With the exception of sticking George Horne on the wing because we have 3 scrum halves rather than two distinct backlines, you'd happily start most games with that. Imagine if we had that 2nd-ish string backline in the 2007 RWC - the backline that started the QF against Argentina was R Lamont, S Lamont, Webster, Dewey, Paterson, Parks, Blair. How many of them would honestly be in the squad this time? Offt, Paterson and Blair the only two, though I think both would be pushing for a start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Wasn't there a spell when Lamont's tries and Paterson's kicks were both the only methods we had of scoring but also so effective other teams used to fear them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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