BuddieInDundee Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Pretty fascinating half of rugby, I've played against teams that have done that at the tackle area before and we found it pretty easy to pick them off around the fringes. This, however, has been executed absolutely fantastically.Has to be said Poite has reffed this outstandingly as well. As hilarious as all of this is, you can see England blowing them away and as GAD said, the Italians love to shit the bed in the final 20 minutes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieInDundee Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 This isn't going to plan... Our lumbering gym bunnies having to get the rules explained to them though. "I'm a referee, not a coach"Favourite moment of the tournament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 minute ago, BuddieInDundee said: Pretty fascinating half of rugby, I've played against teams that have done that at the tackle area before and we found it pretty easy to pick them off around the fringes. This, however, has been executed absolutely fantastically. Has to be said Poite has reffed this outstandingly as well. As hilarious as all of this is, you can see England blowing them away and as GAD said, the Italians love to shit the bed in the final 20 minutes. It's actually a fairly simple thing to get around - England don't seem smart enough though. Wilkinson has just broken down exactly how to counter it - you can guarantee if someone like him was on the field, it wouldn't be an issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said: I wonder if deliberately not forming a ruck will become a widespread tactic, a bit like Ireland's choke tackle? I think it's going to be too easy to exploit to become widespread; here it's working because there's such an element of surprise along with the execution, but when teams have knowledge of it, the rules around it and how to react then any teams trying it will be picked off too easily - you're leaving yourself short defensively if you have 3 or 4 players going beyond the tackler and if a team just repeatedly try to pick and go quickly they'll get through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieInDundee Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I think it's going to be too easy to exploit to become widespread; here it's working because there's such an element of surprise along with the execution, but when teams have knowledge of it, the rules around it and how to react then any teams trying it will be picked off too easily - you're leaving yourself short defensively if you have 3 or 4 players going beyond the tackler and if a team just repeatedly try to pick and go quickly they'll get through. Yeah I'd agree with that, if they try this in the next game you can be sure whoever they're playing (France?) will be prepared and tear them apart. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: I think it's going to be too easy to exploit to become widespread; here it's working because there's such an element of surprise along with the execution, but when teams have knowledge of it, the rules around it and how to react then any teams trying it will be picked off too easily - you're leaving yourself short defensively if you have 3 or 4 players going beyond the tackler and if a team just repeatedly try to pick and go quickly they'll get through. Just now, BuddieInDundee said: Yeah I'd agree with that, if they try this in the next game you can be sure whoever they're playing (France?) will be prepared and tear them apart. Thinking about it, yeah, you're both right. You need the element of surprise, and the opposition to be unable to think on their feet. I reckon you could cause chaos by using it sparingly within games though, although that would need a lot of discipline and organisation on the part of the forwards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieInDundee Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 It's actually a fairly simple thing to get around - England don't seem smart enough though. Wilkinson has just broken down exactly how to counter it - you can guarantee if someone like him was on the field, it wouldn't be an issue. Quite surprising really, you'd think with the experience they have in the pack they'd figure it out quickly, rather having Haskell and Hartley constantly asking for 'clarification' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieInDundee Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 What a try, really enjoyed that tbh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Just now, BuddieInDundee said: Quite surprising really, you'd think with the experience they have in the pack they'd figure it out quickly, rather having Haskell and Hartley constantly asking for 'clarification' Except there is the issue of Hartley being pretty thick and the arrogance of England thinking they can't be wrong. Game over now sadly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Boo. Looks like we might need to beat England by more than seven for a chance of the title. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Italy not even waiting until the 60th minute or so to collapse! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 The typical Italian collapse coming in record time here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Listening to the analysts yesterday talking about possible 100 points, 10+ tries etc. I absolutely fucking love England sometimes. That half time chat on 5live and on itv was essentially porn for fans of the other home nations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiblue Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Looks like they got a talking too at half time and told the rules 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Just now, pandarilla said: Listening to the analysts yesterday talking about possible 100 points, 10+ tries etc. I absolutely fucking love England sometimes. That half time chat on 5live and on itv was essentially porn for fans of the other home nations. At this rate 10 tries is still on 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 At this rate 10 tries is still on [emoji38] I think they scored two in the time it took me to compose my post. Big chinless, c***s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 England have sorted it out and realised they just have to go direct and keep the ball alive. They'll score a few this half I reckon. Was good fun while it lasted though! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Hartleys confusion over basic rugby rules... lions captain... ha ha ha 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieInDundee Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Except there is the issue of Hartley being pretty thick and the arrogance of England thinking they can't be wrong. Game over now sadly. Valid point.Was expecting England to kick on here a bit but it's getting scrappy. It's been a weird game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 England using it now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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