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This has been made into a TikTok so the random woman, caption and music are all annoying. However, the actual clip itself shows why folk are protesting.

The idea being that if enough public opposition can be registered then the government's position can be changed. UK diplomatic, military and economic support for what's being done in that above clip would then cease. That could in turn have a ripple effect across Europe to eventually isolate USA as the sole external guarantor of the violence in Gaza.

It's a long shot but that's the main reason folk protest. It's not a pointless display of self-expression, it has an objective aim. 

Also worth mentioning that I've viewed the clips of the civilian corpses left strewn across the music festival grounds in Israel last month. I've read many of the victim testimonies who lost their family members in the Kibbutz massacres. The violence is all inter-connected. Pressuring for an end to what's being done in Gaza right now would help all common folk in that wider region. Anyone protesting this weekend is doing a good thing. 

From the BBC website, how depraved have things become when "stop bombing babies" is such a radical statement as to be newsworthy:

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2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

BBC describing them as anti-protesters - just fucking nonsense.

They are Nazi scum trying to exploit this for their fucking  bigoted ends.

 

Yup, resolutely sticking with "counter protestors" at every opportunity. Nearest they got on the website was one reference to "some of them from far right groups".

BBC can just f**k right off. Sick of the fact they seem to believe "impartiality" means never scrutinising anything, never calling out liars when they are blatantly lying, and this sort of shit where they treat hate groups and the fucking imbeciles who associate with them with a respect that they simply do not merit.

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5 hours ago, Fullerene said:

As soon as WW2 came to an end, the Cold War resumed.  The West needed ordinary Germans on their side to help them and similarly the Soviets needed their Germans to help too.  East Germans were taught that all the bad Germans had fled to the West since they wouldn't like the Worker's paradise in the East.

Basically "a big boy did it and ran away" but on a much bigger scale and both sides were at it. 

except Stalin was a monster

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5 minutes ago, Ewanandmoreagain said:

except Stalin was a monster

I would not dispute that.  For ordinary Russians he was dangerous to know.

I was simply pointing out that in the Cold War both side made excuses for their new German Allies that had only recently been their enemies.

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32 minutes ago, Captain_Sensible said:

“far right” and “gammon” appear to be interchangeable euphemisms used by the well off white middle class left to describe anyone in the working class who disagrees with them

 

Yeah, I’m sure the wee fat c**t giving it ‘ain’t no black in the Union Jack’ at 37 seconds must be a regular bleeding heart liberal

 

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55 minutes ago, carpetmonster said:

 

Yeah, I’m sure the wee fat c**t giving it ‘ain’t no black in the Union Jack’ at 37 seconds must be a regular bleeding heart liberal

 

He's just a big fan of a certain Welsh band

 

 

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5 hours ago, Captain_Sensible said:

“far right” and “gammon” appear to be interchangeable euphemisms used by the well off white middle class left to describe anyone in the working class who disagrees with them

You've said almost the exact same thing verbatim on this site before. It was boring fact free shite then and it's boring fact free shite now. 

 

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12 hours ago, Captain_Sensible said:

“far right” and “gammon” appear to be interchangeable euphemisms used by the well off white middle class left to describe anyone in the working class who disagrees with them

It's used to describe racist bigots who use any excuse to inact violence on anyone different from them for having the audacity to breathe.

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12 hours ago, Captain_Sensible said:

“far right” and “gammon” appear to be interchangeable euphemisms used by the well off white middle class left to describe anyone in the working class who disagrees with them

Only a middle class twat would assume that violent racists must be working class.

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