THE KING Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 They would make the Nazi propaganda machine proud. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 This blaming the other side for bombing themselves is a cracking idea. The Luftwaffe should have blamed the blitz on the RAF. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 The Yanks used to blame anti aircraft shells for falling back to ground and bunker busting through three levels of underground public shelters in Baghdad. By the time they had admitted it they'd done something worse so nobody was interested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) Tha Gazan health ministry supplied a list of the dead to al Jazeera - http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/07/gaza-under-seige-naming-dead-2014710105846549528.html Over 80% are male and most of those 20-30 years old. That's not indiscriminate killing, that's targeted. I processed the list to get the ages and got the following totals 126(20%) Under 20 229(36%) 20 to 30 147(23%) Over 30 126(20%) Age Not available I've not broken it down by gender because I'd have to be able to quickly recognise Arabic names. And I've not got the demographic data for Northern Gaza to compare it with But nonetheless it looks as if you may have read a misrepresentation of the data. If the point you're making is that the killing isn't entirely indiscriminate then Al Jazera does indeed back your point but it's a pretty weak point. Certainly a comparison with the list of Israeli dead shows that Hamas have managed to be a lot more Selectivein terms of hitting the Male 20-30 demographic Edited July 29, 2014 by topcat(The most tip top) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 This blaming the other side for bombing themselves is a cracking idea. The Luftwaffe should have blamed the blitz on the RAF. See Hate Week in George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young buck Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 If you can handle brand, he has found an incredible bit of footage 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 If you can handle brand, he has found an incredible bit of footage I would like to fire a missile into Sean Hannity's head. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Very impressed with brand in that wee clip. Anyone who thinks this whole thing is not the fault of Israel should be made to watch that. I'd love to see anyone try to defend that stance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Very impressed with brand in that wee clip. Anyone who thinks this whole thing is not the fault of Israel should be made to watch that. I'd love to see anyone try to defend that stance It doesn't say anything about Israel, just how bad an advocate they have in Fox News. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 It doesn't say anything about Israel, just how bad an advocate they have in Fox News. Russell Brand does - and fairly eloquently too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith197141 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 So you see the two things as the same? No, I see IDF horrible attacks, and I see Israeli kids as undeserving of being targeted randomly. What bit dont you get? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith197141 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Russell Brand does - and fairly eloquently too. Please tell us your thoughts on the Christians Of Iraq, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 No, I see IDF horrible attacks, and I see Israeli kids as undeserving of being targeted randomly. What bit dont you get? How can you be targeted randomly? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith197141 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 We've got one! Kindly answer the following. Also yes, as you say, Hamas are scum. However, as you're well aware, criticising Israel does not equate to supporting Hamas, so that's a completely irrelevant response to criticism of Israel. Never said I wasnt criticising Israel , think you'll find I hve, FFS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith197141 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 How can you be targeted randomly? By firing rockets you dont have a clue where they;re landing, FFS, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 By firing rockets you dont have a clue where they;re landing, FFS, So you think they were aiming to kill children, but had know idea where the rockets would end up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 By firing rockets you dont have a clue where they;re landing, FFS, That isn't targeting something, that's just firing at random. You are aware that the US funded iron done system, wipes out the majority of rockets launched from Gaza? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) No, I see IDF horrible attacks, and I see Israeli kids as undeserving of being targeted randomly. What bit dont you get? Don't worry Keith, I get it. You have some very warped views in relation to this conflict. The actions of Israel over the past few weeks are indefensible - and that is me commenting only on Israel's actions, and not in any way making Hamas out to be good guys. The middle-east has a number of incredibly complicated problems (including the fate of minority Christian populations), often overlapping, none easily solved. The blame for these various problems lies with numerous sources, of almost all political and religious sides, and certainly including Britain and the US. For what its worth I'll leave you with the views of Mehdi Hassan, someone who can explain how Israel is getting away with this far better than I can: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/gaza-israel_b_5624401.html Edited July 29, 2014 by pandarilla 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith197141 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 That isn't targeting something, that's just firing at random. You are aware that the US funded iron done system, wipes out the majority of rockets launched from Gaza? I.m sure if I fire 2000 rockets at someone the chances are I,m gonna kill someone innocent, WTF dont you get about that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith197141 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Don't worry Keith, I get it. You have some very warped views in relation to this conflict. The actions of Israel over the past few weeks are indefensible - and that is me commenting only on Israel's actions, and not in any way making Hamas out to be good guys. The middle-east has a number of incredibly complicated problems (including the fate of minority Christian populations), often overlapping, none easily solved. The blame for these various problems lies with numerous sources, of almost all political and religious sides, and certainly including Britain and the US. For what its worth I'll leave you with the views of Mehdi Hassan, someone who can explain how Israel is getting away with this far better than I can: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/gaza-israel_b_5624401.html Mehdi Hasan who thinks you are an animal, Good one, And the rest of us, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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