I stand by that our best central defence pairing is Murray and Ellis but that's just my opinion. Hills great in the air don't get me wrong but he's just too slow for this level. You could argue that Murray and Ellis are getting slower too but they are at that age where fitness creeps up on them. Hill is still in his twenties. I like Dougie and he has been a good player for us..I just don't think he's a player that could take us forward. (neither will Ellis or Murray but they could be future coaches/managers of the club)