Reignman

A memorable game for me as the game which taught me NEVER to gloat about a result before the final whistle goes. I deservedly got it tight from my Pars supporting mates after a barrage of texts from me to them at half time. A harsh but valuable lesson.

In a similar vein to the posts above @The Real Saints and @steviemay17, my enthusiasm for Saints is at an all time low, thanks to the current management. I've been going to Saints games for 30 years, but living in the Glasgow area and having a young family means I dont get to as many games as I used to. My eldest is now about the age I was when I went to my first game and showing a real interest in football. I've been looking forward to him reaching that stage so I can take him to McDiarmid and spend time with him the way I have with my dad over the years. We were even passing Perth on Saturday lunchtime travelling back from a holiday and although it wouldnt really have worked logistically I could have made it work to take him. A few days before the game though realised I didn't want to, as I knew what an insipid performance we would put in, with no excitement, no real intent to win, and would probably lose badly. I was worried he wouldn't want to go back, would show more interest in the local teams and might never follow Saints. It was a sad moment of realisation for me and a demonstration of the damage the manger is doing to our club.

Haha, that'll be a yes then I did miss it. Anything from the club on if he will be / has been replaced or if we're binning that idea?

See our head of recruitment is talking about looking for a new job on twitter. Did I miss something, is it common knowledge he is away? Obviously was speculation about which signings were made by the manager and which were by the HoR and the managers attitude towards them. Grieve has been punting his 'game models' and such like for a while so how long has he been gone? If CD is now in full charge of recruitment as well it gives me the fear - although I suppose a head of recruitment not much use if the manager doesnt play any of his signings.

Not very interesting but adding to the already long list of footballing Polis: Allan McManus (Hearts, St Johnstone) Davie Irons Andy Aitken (QoS, Annan) Jamie McQuilken (Aberdeen, St Johnstone, QoS) Willie Kinniburgh Euan McLean (St Johnstone, Dundee Utd keeper) Scott Wilson (Rangers, Dunfermline)

No Michael Stewart on Sportscene tonight. On the naughty step with the BBC after Mondays performance on Sportsound? I didnt hear any radio coverage on Wednesday, did Stewart feature?

Afraid not, must be getting me mixed up with other posters again! If anything I'm decidedly OTK, if thats a thing.

All sounds so familiar, one of our best players heading into last 6 months of a contract and talking about wanting to sign on again. Coupled with the Aberdeen gossip just makes me think it is a bargaining tool, pretending to Aberdeen (or others) he might stay here to get a better offer from them and theres no chance he's staying. Shame that Saints recent record in contracts/recruitment has conditioned me to be so pessimistic. Hopefully prove me wrong!

Yeah really didnt see that coming. Im hoping its to free up a wage for 1 more rather than was needed to free up the wage for Holt, but cant complain if it is the latter. Still young enough to keep around though, could see him becoming a player rather than one of the Comrie/Greg Hurst types who seem to hang around into early 20s when its clear they are never going to make it for us. Maybe we were trying to loan him out again but after a successful loan last season he felt he should either get his shot or move on?

No worries, understandable to get those names mixed up!

Not that I particularly care, but just to point out that this is a lot of pish. I've been on this forum for over 15 years but have only posted 60 odd times, none of which, as far as I'm aware, have ever been in a thread of a team that Ally Roy has played for. Not that I even know who Ally Roy has played for. Anyway, positive that the resident ITK poster has Jason Holt deal done.

Nope our marketing is just tinpot af. Nice to see a bit of effort put into it but it wouldnt be saints and the whole May saga in general if we didn't make a f**k up of it!

I guess the flip side of the above, if true, is that its another target we'be failed to sign so does in fact speak to our total incompetence in player recruitment.

Was speaking to a colleague today who was saying he has a mate who works for Rangers and is often ITK about transfers etc. He told him that Ryan Hardie on a permanent deal and Glen Middleton on loan to Saints was effectively a done deal before Blackpool came in for Hardie. As it was kind of a package for both meant that Middleton didnt happen. So maybe there has been more going on in terms of working to sign targets than we are giving Saints credit for. That aside, I have nothing to add to the general consensus that it appears the May situation and as a consequence the chance to sign Hemmings has been dealt with dreadfully which isnt even surprising and apathy is at an all time high.

To be fair to Aberdeen I would expect Saints to do exactly the same. Although McInnes maybe doesnt plan to use him it would be pretty foolish not to have him available in the event of injuries etc.

You might be whooshing me with your apparent whoosh, but think that was a piss take of the celtic turnbull tweet.

Having not cycled since I was a teenager I got a bike on cycle to work 5 years ago aged 28 for commuting, and I have used it almost exclusively for that purpose. Moved closer to the countryside late last year and when the good weather started this year got the urge to get out into the hills I could now see the sun beating down on from my house. Set myself a goal of getting from Bearsden up and over Crow Road over the campsies and back home and did it today, 39 mile round trip. Nothing compared to the real cyclists in this thread but chuffed with myself. Extra motivation from reading perthshire bells guff on this thread! Cheers!

I've been telling people for weeks that I don't think we should go for May, not the same player, will be too expensive for the return, will tarnish his legacy etc etc. Now its legitimately being talked about there is nothing more I want in life than to see Stevie May in a 2 year old Macron template kit for Saints. I am positively moist at the prospect. Bring him home!

Billy Dodds called Lukaku "Roman Lukaku" twice during the 20 odd minutes I head of the coverage of the Scotland game tonight. Gave him the benefit of the doubt first time but definitely called him that second time. Wish I could be as shit at my job and keep it.

Listened to this earlier, a really good listen. My memory of him was he turned in some good performances and was one of those players the support wanted to do well and could see the potential in but it never really happened for him. Obviously so raging at being dropped for the challenge cup final it clouded his memory of our brilliant first half going 3-0 up! A shame he said that joining Saints was one of his only regrets in football. Looking forward to the other parts of his interview being released. Any chance the next time your guest has played for Saints they've had a good experience? Between Weatherston, Bobby Barr and Sean Higgins theres not been much success at Saints to talk about!

That is quite a signing spree. Whos that third in from the left, a full back? Seem to remember him being particularly shite even by that teams standards.

It seems he has the small seeds of a valid point in his head that it wasn't necessarily a tactical masterclass by Rodgers that won Celtic the game. He has however been unable to to then understand the difference between luck and Celtic having better players than Rangers. The fact that Goss missed a tackle and Rogic scored a belter, that Morelos missed a sitter, that Goss couldn't get near Edouard points to the fact that the Celtic players are better and thats what won them the game. Maybe he does understand that but puts it down to "luck" that rangers were victimised by the powers that be when they were "demoted" and thats why they find themselves behind celtic?

Bonnar should be getting his arse kicked for being utterly hopeless at discussing anything outwith Celtic. He's 10 times worse than Willie Miller with Aberdeen. Kept calling Scougall 'Steven' and Willock 'Wilcock', which is probably down to being too thick to read rather tham anything else. Then having read out the team lines said we'd be 4-4-2 with Kerr at left back and Tanser in midfield. Just a total lack of knowledge or research about the teams he is covering. If thats the level of coverage why bother having anybody reporting on it?

Sorry for the late reply, been a while since I was on this thread! Technically no, my times have not improved but the extra strength in my legs has improved my running performance, as I'm only slightly behind my best pace having done a lot less actual running, if that makes any sense. I have no doubt that If I were to do the same amount of running now as I did when I set my half marathon pb I would smash it as a result of being a whole lot stronger. I have moved to new weights routine, so still doing full body 3x per week but mixing up set & rep schemes a bit more and doing bigger sets therefore lighter weights with shorter rest periods using more dynamic exercises, much like I'm sure kettlebell training is. This has allowed me to run without such heavy legs all the time and push my times and distances up a bit, so there is still an outside chance of 90 mins on the 6th September but realistically I'll fall just short. I've no doubt you're right, if you were to choose a type of resistance training to aid running in season kettlebell training is better than squatting to your 3 & 5 rep max 3 times a week. Think the heavier lifting should be done in the winter when your not competing. I want to get big and strong as well as running good times which aren't realistically going to happen at the same time, I should really prioritise one for a period of time, I just can't seem to decide which one to do when.

And you've 'had' to watch them win promotions, finish third in the SPL, compete in Europe and win a cup, and even latterly be competetive in the first division, which has all been funded by unpayable debt. You weren't greetin' about pissing off local businesses & the football community in the glory days, so don't pull the 'woe is me' routine now the shits hitting the fan in the most minor way possible. "Boo hoo, people don't like us" - what a small price to pay, you should have been put down like a dying animal yesterday and you all know it. You ask fans of other clubs to put themselves in a Livi supporter's shoes - how about the other way around? How about you put yourselves in the shoes of the clubs who cut their cloth accordingly, live within their means and as a result plod along in the second and third divisions getting no glory whatsoever (and yes, that is livi's true level), and then this bunch of shysters come along romp their way up the leagues cheating people out of millions of pounds to fund it - would you not have a little bit of a disliking for them? You wonder why so many people would have been happy to see then end of you?