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As far as I can see nobody is really saying that Yes is in the lead right now.
There's still quite a long time to go - and there are a few small signs that the gap is narrowing.
The BT campaign is also starting to look a little rattled by throwing ultimatums and threats into the mix, which usually isn't a good sign. I still think it will be very close. Yes still have it all to do but I'm still quite hopeful.
The SNP have pretty much being campaigning since they won the last Scottish election in 2011, and they have a highly unpopular government in London, which should work in their favour, but the polls are not reflecting this, in my view
Think both sides have looked a little "ragged" recently, but these polls show very little change since the publishing of the white paper, that was 4 months ago and only 200 days to go
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UK Polling Report website has selection of Polls since January 2012, only once is there a poll with Yes Scotland in the lead and that same poll is the only poll with "Yes" vote polling over 40% and that poll was done by Panalbase commissioned by the SNP
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Yes, Wings over Scotland got VERY excited about this, at the point they were saying Osborne wasn't going to refuse to bow to the bullying arrogant SNP, and wouldn't reject a currency union.
Slight problem with these odds is that they also include using the pound, but not in a currency union.
And of course those nice people at Ladbrokes will happily hold on to your money for 6 months then give you it back voided in September. If you remember that is.
I only quoted the odds, you will take out of them what you want
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On currency if Scotland becomes an independent country GBP 1/3 New currency 3/1 Euro 10/1, That's of Feb. 13, that's from Ladbrokes Politics
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Can you please send me the link to the ladbrokes site where I can take advantage of this offer?
Comparing one bookie (and one who is widely regarded in the industry as being a bit of a basketcase right now) making a total cock-up of a rather esoteric bet with the many who are offering odds on the outcome of the referendum is ridiculous. But then, you're ridiculous, so I guess it comes as no surprise.
On Twitter @LadPolitics
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No 1/5 Yes 7/2 from Ladbrokes
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UKIP won't get a single seat after the GE, let alone form part of the next government.
They will get votes, they will give some a "bloody nose", but will struggle to take seats
Yes Im open to that possibiilty but the Tories seem awful concerned about them splitting their vote.
It seems to me that UKIP will take votes in the south of England from the Tories, on a anti- Europe ticket, but further up England they could take votes off other parties on a anti- immigration ticket, strange
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In my opinion I think what happens in the 2015 UK GE in the event of a NO vote will have a significant bearing on how the Scottish Parties approach the 2016 Scottish GE. I fully expect a NO vote followed by a Tory/UKIP victory will result in a re-evaluation of Devolution, primarily with the aim of preventing future referendums. If its very close then you could see an written constitution for the first time. Possibly a new Act of Union to "modernise" the UK. This would effectively remove the right to self determination. The phrase "No neverendum" will be used a lot. The SNP will, in this scenario, maintain a large support and probably majority Govt again, as they have now positioned themselves as the natural opponents of the "toxic" tories. If Labour win then there may be some amendements to the Scotland Act which will devolve pointless fidcal powers while adjusting the block grant. In this case Labour could make up ground on the SNP and the inevitable change in SNP leadership following NO could work against them. If the referendum delivers a resounding NO then the SNP will fragment and possibly we will see more than one Nationalist party at Holyrood elections. This will be a reactionary move and will ensure that Indy is off the agenda for at least a generation.
Or you could be completely wrong on all of above, just saying
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Ladbrokes latest odds 1/5 NO
7/2 YES
just saying
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I've never seen her on anything. You must watch some shit TV progs.
Must do, all these debate programmes had 2 on Welfare, 1 on immigration , god knows how many we will get between now and the 2015 election, I include the indy debates as well, find Question Time is more than enough for me
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Katie Hopkins, that is all
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Yes often. Usually it's after the event as podcasts.
I generally find their output to be decent - certainly better than that offered as an alternative by Clyde.
Much too OFcentric of course, but that goes with the territory.
A suggestion of bias against Rangers however, takes us to the land of the cuckoo.
Clyde is brutal to listen to
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Strange that celtics top league form is often described as phenomenal given their advantage over all the other teams.
Yet when Rangers have a similar advantage, a different reaction is received....
No I have contempt in equal measures for both teams, so no different reaction here
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Having a 70's thing just now quite a lot of ELO
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I hope my holiday home is still intact ? after the winter ? after the locals have came out of hibernation ? LOL
We don't do winter, tropical all year round
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Cowdenbeath isn't the best of places but methil is honestly the worst away day. dreadful place.
That I am afraid is to close to call
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Greatest thread in P&B history.
No its not, just the same garbage over and over again, time for this thread to close
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politics site for this pish - this site is about fitba and this thread aboots the death of Rangers
A lot of this s**t has nothing to do with football!
Message to P&B, time this thread was shut down
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Only 1070 pages on Scottish Independence thread, which is quite important, 4962 on this garbage, which is only about a team who play a sport, f**k sake!
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You have to admit Rangers supporters having a go at the behaviour, of the supporters of any other club, is a bit of a hard neck
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Brechin, Dreadful just dreadful
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Like seeing James Spader doing his best John Lithgow impression
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think now its funny that it was always put forward in the main by Rangers fans that it was Celtic and their fans were paranoid about everything, but it would appear that when it comes to paranoia Rangers and their fans have taken it to new highs
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Latest Polls and Latest Odds
in The Politics Forum
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Really it is a long time 200 days, since 2011 the support for independence has risen by lets say 5 or 6%, they are looking for a rise of say double that in 200 days
I don't really think Better Together have even really started yet, but Yes Scotland and the SNP have been rattled over the past couple of weeks, so the next 200 days will either be very interesting or a non-event, but Ladbrokes still offering 7/2 for a Yes Vote and 1/5 for a No Vote