repeat_offender

This is a battle the crooked lunatic is never going to win. Re the viewing data, some info previously published below relating to English Championship games.

Fair comment, I'll try to explain. In the last 5 years I've heard one racist comment made by a fan inside Elland Road, that person was quckly challenged by those around him and set straight. I've heard far more racist comments in the same timeframe either in the workplace, the pub or whilst playing amateur sport. I'm not pretending racism isn't a problem or doesn't exist amongst the Leeds support I just see it as a far bigger problem in other arenas. At the same time I realise Leeds fans have crossed the line in the past, the example at Leicester City being somethng that I'd never try to excuse. Some would have you believe racism amongst Leeds fans at Elland Road is an every day incident, endemic & prevelant amongst the support, all I can do is be honest and say that's not my experience.

I mentioned that you post things that aren't factually correct and present your own opinion as fact. Your previous posts I quoted support that, I realise that's inconvenient for you but it is in my opinion relevant. You're also not adverse to making a sweeping genralisation about the club and it's fan base and as I've said before present your own opinion as fact. I wondered what qualified you to give this all seeing insight into the club, 10 year + season ticket holder, life time resident of the city perhaps, that's why I asked the question about attending Leeds games. In your post yestarday at 21.38 in the 1st paragraph you admitted posting false information about LUFC and explained this was because you'd been given the information by a 3rd party. In the last paragraph of the same post you mention that you don't believe anybody would make up a story about a 2nd tier club like Leeds. That's quite the contradiction but hey if it suits your agenda I realise you're more than happy to go with. Your defintion of fact is very different to my own, to you it seems a fact can include a story some 3rd party told you. GIven the fact that you've posted stuff on here you've been told by others that have turned about to be false I'm not holding too much faith in those type of tales from yourself. You also claimed Leeds fans booed a black player throughout a game for no other reason than he was black. Just how do you know this was the reason the player was being booed? Do you have the unique ablility to read the minds of the LUFC support? Did you interview the fans that booed the player one by one post match? Or did it suit your agenda to assume a black player being booed by Leeds fans must have been motivated by racism? I've been to games where I haven't realised why opposition players have been given stick only to learn later is was related to an incident from a previous game or club or even a single gesture to the crowd which I didn't see. I honestly don't see monkey gestures made to black players at Leeds games, I don't remember the Dwight Yorke incident or remember it being mentioned post match, I don't remember it being mentioned in the media or by the player himself. Given the players previous clubs I'd of thought he'd of been more likely to receive stick for being Ex Manchester United. You say you saw it yourself and I'll accept that's the case, I wouldn't try to condone or excuse that behaviour for a moment, it has no place in the game.

You on Steve Evans on this thread 31st of October 10:32 Let's not try to pretend you're even handed and only make negative comments about LUFC based on facts because that bollox went out the window with you a long time ago. I've witnessed events 1st hand and then been amazed by the factually incorrect bollocks others who weren't anywhere near chunter on about. I can't explain their actions I can only tell you that it happens. That's not to say I believe LUFC are without fault I don't. I'm fullly aware that other clubs fans dislike the club and some have a valid reason to, I find those that do rarely post utter w**k like "racist airport" like yourself. Correct, LUFC are in the 2nd tier of English Football. Nobody ever spouts shit about non EPL clubs do they?

I'd never pretend racism doesn't exist at Elland Road, I'd estimate I've been to somewhere between 250 - 500 games and I don't believe racism is prevalent or a big problem at Elland Road. I get you don't like LUFC, that's clear by your knee jerk rush to spout on the internet given the slightest chance even if what you post isn't factually correct (see your previous with Steve Evans). I'm prepaired to accept peoples 1st hand accounts & for me one is too many, 3rd person accounts and own interpretations of events less so. It's easy to pick out events for particular clubs to suit a posters agenda (& it's clear you have one), I'll pass on that though and leave it to you.

You seem to have a lot to say about Leeds United & often state opinion as fact with nothing else to back up your comments. How many Leeds United games have you actually been to?

Dylan, Sharon, Steve, Howard and Dave. who'd ave thought it.

Oh and just for the record I'm no fan of Evans, if I had the choice he'd be no where near the club.

It'll be simple to explain, the quote is an internet myth propagated by some with an axe to grind and not an Evans quote. Of course if Bully Wee Villa was correct he'd be able to post concrete evidence that Evans made the comments. The fact is he can't and won't be able to (just because the meme has been posted several times on facebook doesn't make it true Bully Wee VIlla).

If you pay with a credit / debit card remember to take the card you paid with along to the ticket office.

Read jamtartan74's post and immediately binned the renewal form.

Re the press conference, Pearson's body language at times says it all.

If you support the idea of fans having a share holding in the club Leeds LLP are now selling shares http://www.leedsfanscbs.com/

We were in danger of being dragged into a relegation dog fight, the changes worked. Why you would sack somebody involved in improving results is beyond me.

So it seems at the start of the season we signed a striker that we hoped would score lots of goals and gave him a series of financial bonuses as an incentive to do just that. The striker in question starts to bag goals and when he gets close to the number of goals required to trigger the financial incentive the reponse from those in charge is to demand he isn't played and to replace him with a striker that never scores? At times this club, NR sounds about ready to walk btw.

There's a regional members club in Aberdeen and it looks like they're also trying to start one in Falkirk. http://www.leedsunited.com/regional-members-club ABERDEEN Contact: Doug Smith scottishleeds@yahoo.com Find us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/117557271640778/ I had a look on the independant supports club website and couldn't find one in Scotland http://www.leedsunitedsupportersclub.org.uk/branches/

Seems to be a lot happening re LUFC, looks like GFH want out or will be forced out. The allegations of misuse of Iranian money to purchase LUFC, Haigh still in the nick, internal communications leaked, I see GFH's share price fell again today. Leeds being Leeds it's hard to predict where or how any of this will end. Re Sniffers video, 10 minutes in "Ken Bates says he saved Leeds United, No. Ken Bates did not save Leeds United, the fans did". Nail on head Sniffer.

Really not looking good at the minute, hoping there are enough worse teams than us in the League to avoid relegation and the usual shambles off the pitch.

Rated him as a Chairman, his sale of the club to Caspain marked the end of an era and the transition to the "modern" football age. Many tosspots have followed him. cheers Leslie.

How Adryan never put the header in I'll never know, Mowatt was very close with his own headed effort that hit the bar in the 1st half. At times in the 2nd half our defence looked all at sea.

Responded really well to taking the captains armband, made a goal saving tackle in front of the south stand. Derby had plenty of chances today, squared the ball accross the Leeds goal at least 3 times with only the keeper to beat but never managed to convert any of them.

I'd agree re Byram, I think their intention was to get him on as he'd warmed up and was stripped ready come on at the point Berardi was given the red card. The bench left it just too late for my money. Re Lewis Cook best young Leeds player I've seen at Elland Road in a long time.

Overall a good thing in my opinion doing a great job at the academy at the moment.

How Harvey got a job at the Football League after his tenure at Elland Road is beyond me, he was part of the regime that ripped off HMRC & creditors during Ken's crooked admin. Found guilty of commiting criminal libel & harassment using club media as a vehicle to attack Ex Directors and fans. He'd fail his own owners and directors test but for a convenient clause in the football league insolvency incident rule which crticially for Harvey disregards incidents pre June 2004. Harvey refuses to answer public questions relating to his time at Elland Road which in itself should raise a few questions given he's now the top man at the football league. The man shouldn't be allowed nowhere near football in any capacity given his history.

First half last night was pretty horrific, Brighton played us off the park.