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Well done lads.
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He posts absolute bollocks and you know it.You ignore him then. The lad rattles on a bit but all he has done is post about how good Junior football is. That may be painful for you to read but it's not troll like behaviour.
Besides, Burnieman was brought into this by someone else mentioning his name.1 -
They don't have a lot else in their armoury to be fair.To be fair, it's a refreshing palette cleanser from the usual gleeful reciting of historical abuse of children. Always found it very bizarre that they seem to take some kind of strange enjoyment of it.1 -
Nobody hates Auchinleck. Everyone acknowledges how good and how well run they are and they're a club everyone aspires to emulate. But their dominance and financial success from senior cup participation has made the top level of the juniors as uncompetitive as it probably ever has been.Being an outsider from down south, can someone please explain where the hatred of Auchinleck first began ? Is it born out of jealousy, envy etc ? Just interested that's all. Small club, biggish club syndrome or something more devious ? Maybe something historical ?
Every season starts with the question "who can stop Talbot?" rather than who will win the league or junior cup. Anyone hoping to win the league or cup has to hope for Talbot to have an off day, or a huge fixture pile-up at the end of the season. It's unhealthy and is probably one of the major reasons as to why so many clubs were actively seeking a way into the pyramid in the West.
And personally I find a fair number of their fans arrogant, obnoxious and entitled.11 -
Early days I know, but has it been confirmed that the conference winners will play off to decide a West champion, who will then take part in a further play off with the East/South winners to decide who gets promoted?
I was initially under the impression that the conferences will purely be to decide on the following season's league set-up, but I saw that Bonnyrigg won an East conference play off last season.0 -
Good luck selling that one to Rupert.
I'm aware it's a non-starter!!I think that would give most club chairmen a seizure.0 -
Increasing the number of relegation spots might assist. 4 up and 4 down would create a bit of drama.I’m old enough to remember the18 team league and, after Christmas, for most clubs it was boring
I'd actually have two national leagues of 18 and increase the promotion/relegation numbers at all levels.0 -
Where was the final held last season?
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I've cut mine twice so far recently. If you watch some YouTube tutorials, take your time and be very patient you can give yourself a 1 or 2 at the sides and leave it whatever length you want at the top. The blending can be done with a bit of time.
You're never going to get it to barbershop level but it'll do meantime.0 -
Never heard anyone pronounce Drummy in such a way as the bloke in the podcast. Have you seen them play? Naw.
Anyway, Listened to it and remain completely unconvinced about the conferences, seriously not looking forward to next seasons jamboree of unranked teams.
Also dont like celebrating how conferences makes the whole thing easier for them to organize. First difficult issue and it's all grabbing the easy opition with both hands.... causing almost all premier teams financial loses next season, while denying derbys, top clashes and fir what????? Accommodating 4 teams or amateurs that played elsewhere?
The easy option is not always the best option. A fans perspective might be Aw but if I 'wait a year or two' I might get to see something like I was already watching in the first place.... not gonna get folk flooding in the gates is it?Never heard anyone pronounce Drummy in such a way as the bloke in the podcast. Have you seen them play? Naw.
Anyway, Listened to it and remain completely unconvinced about the conferences, seriously not looking forward to next seasons jamboree of unranked teams.
Also dont like celebrating how conferences makes the whole thing easier for them to organize. First difficult issue and it's all grabbing the easy opition with both hands.... causing almost all premier teams financial loses next season, while denying derbys, top clashes and fir what????? Accommodating 4 teams or amateurs that played elsewhere?
The easy option is not always the best option. A fans perspective might be Aw but if I 'wait a year or two' I might get to see something like I was already watching in the first place.... not gonna get folk flooding in the gates is it?
It sounds very much like you started listening with your mind already made up.
Everyone is going to be playing in a new league next season, a league in which they have no prior record.
Your club knew exactly what they were signing up for and that conferences were going to be in place for the first season.
Present Junior top flight clubs might lose a bit in gate receipts next season but lower division junior clubs (and the other applicants) will surely gain. We constantly hear on this forum about the "junior family" and looking out for each other but when it actually comes to it, that's just a meaningless slogan isn't it?
People are happy enough to keep the money between the same 16-20 clubs at the top of the pile and let the others feed on scraps. For all the talk of staying together, nobody actually really cares about the bottom clubs do they?3 -
Realistically the arrangements of the new tiers in the West couldn't have been decided yet as it would be for the member clubs to decide, and until yesterday nobody seems to have known the full list of clubs who have applied.
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The only cups that have been mentioned for the WoS are the SCC and a WoS league cup. WoS teams are not taking part in EoSFA competitions such as the Alex Jack, Football Nation Qualifying and King Cups. This is what creates space for the SJC, if WoS clubs opt to participate in that rather than having multiple WoSFA cup competitions.
Bit of a difference there regarding the Alex Jack cup - is this just for East clubs or is it open to all?https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/spfl-pyramid-masterplan-agreed-juniors-21753119
Colin Boyd “We are probably going into a 16 or 18 team league. There will be the South Challenge Cup, the Alex Jack Cup and we will need to create a West League Cup. That gives us three cups and adding a fourth in the Junior Cup I just don’t see possible."
Yet you've got quotes like that from someone involved in the process. Now nobody gets everything right when talking about the inner workings of the pyramid, but you don't just throw out the Alex Jack Cup without someone trying to explain what it is and why its relevant to the pyramid. Maybe that means a few entering instead of the SJC or the WoSFL creating their own version who knows.
I doubt it will mean all non-SFA WoSFL members entering since that could take the Alex Jack Cup to 90 odd teams to the Alba Cup's 9.0 -
I thought you guys enjoyed the journey??Absolutely no way would Ibrox sell out for a Colts vs Cove League 2 match though it may do for a game vs 'them' at the start of the season or if we were close to a title clincher so the idea that it's for financial reasons is nonsense.
I can see Craig Mullholand's intent - he wants to 'blood' players earlier than we do now and get them stepped up more quickly. Let's face it, the 3rd and 4th tier is likely where most of our colts will end up anyway given how few move up to the first team.
OTOH 3rd and 4th tier football in Scotland is fucking brutal and most players think they'll be penalised if they kick the ball less than 30 yards. Add in the neanderthal attitude of players and the mediaeval mindset of many diddy fans wherein, "half the wee 'h' b*****d, Tam', is likely to be a common cry, then I can't see this ending well.
On balance, it's a no from me.
Anyway, the C&R Colts won't be allowed into the senior leagues next season and if they were ever allowed in thereafter they'd be starting at the 9th tier in the pyramid system.0 -
I don't really see the need for staying in the SJFA. The junior cup is massively devalued now and the bigger clubs in the East aren't going to re-join the SJFA just to play in a competition that they don't have time to accommodate. If everyone in the West is moving to the WOS league anyway then I imagine there will be a WOS cup equivalent, which the junior cup essentially is these days anyway.It’ll be this week, the members and fans we’d talked to casually prior to putting in the application (and before the lockdown) were happy to move on without the SJFA, as the only option at that time was to resign from the SJFA and join a new league, we still haven’t received anything from the SJFA regarding rule changes about dual association membership and cup participation and haven’t heard from the Lowland League regarding the formation the Scottish Junior Cup will take within the WOSFL, The East and North Juniors need to ok it, rules need changed and an AGM needs to happen to achieve all that.
We’d already made our plans long before the WRJFA made any compromises with the Lowland League and the committee don’t see any benefit in continuing the SJFA membership when only several weeks ago our representative at the PWG said no West clubs were interested in Pyramid football, our goal is to become a licensed club within the SFA structure.1 -
My apologies. I thought I had seen an interview with their chairman saying they were leaving.
Have they confirmed they are staying in?
I didn't see that article sorry. Kilwinning's Facebook page had an official post which sort of implied it was still to be decided:-That's the article I saw. I knew I wasn't going crazy[emoji849]
Latest from the Pyramid Working Group
We have already applied but as of yet haven’t offered our resignation to the SJFA, we had planned to have a supporters meeting once the details of the new league came out but due to the circumstances we don’t see this happening soon.
We will setup a facebook live Q & A this week.0 -
Dev, any chance of starting a table with the new WOSFL teams SJFA plans?
There are four categories at the moment.
1 Clubs that have confirmed they will remain members of the SJFA while playing in the WOSFL eg Gartcairn
2 Teams that are definitely resigning fron the SJFA eg Kilwinning
3 Sides that have not declared one way or the other eg Cambuslang
4 Clubs that are asking their shareholders/supporters which way to go eg Irvine and Shotts
Cheers
Kilwinning haven't said they are resigning from the SJFA.0 -
There was a vote as to whether to move ground or not which finished about 70% - 30% in favour of going. Most fans in Kilwinning I've spoken to appreciated the need for the move. The new facility doesn't have 10% of the character of Abbey Park, but character and history doesn't attract players or win you games.Boyd said that they were leaving Abbey Park.
The fans didn't like it.
The Buffs are now at Pennyburn.
Boyd says that they're leaving the Juniors.
The fans might not like that either.
Guess what happens.
As for the juniors - unless the SJFA or West Region have magically managed to convince the LL/EOS clubs to take part in the junior cup then the competition has had it's time and there's no real reason to stay affiliated to the SJFA.0 -
A couple of people have named Kilwinning as definitely leaving the SJFA (or at least giving up membership) - the last update 3 days ago says they haven't and had planned a supporters meeting prior to deciding.
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Some of the juniors don't want to go though, according to the only vote which has been held.All that the West Juniors want is to enter at Tier 6, 7, 8, and 9. That's all. Ready made system, a few tweaks and it's ready to go.1 -
It's puzzled me as well. They are claiming it as victory and presenting like they got everything they wanted.Maybe I'm being overly pessimistic, but reading the last few pages I find the phrase "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" buzzing around my head. I don't like that last WRJFA statement at all. They think they've won, not compromised. I do hope I'm wrong.1 -
You're not disliked because of the success.Because of success , everybody wants to beat us0 -
What is it you don't like about them?Yeah personally I really don't like the idea of conferences. That's what's putting me off their proposal at present
You mentioned earlier that top flight clubs would face a season of less savoury fixtures. Apart from your club, every single other club in the top flight has spent time in the lower league(s) in the past decade and it wasn't the end of the world for any of them.0 -
Will there be any live updates/tweets of the meeting on Tuesday?
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The prestige disappeared the moment Linlithgow, Boness and Bonnyrigg left.That's crap, and you know it is. The prestige hasn't gone, it's the Eastern Juniors who've gone from it and they'd offered precious little in the last decade.1
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