AndyM

He also enjoyed denying the use of mendacity. He was from the era where football journalists were roaring alkies, cigar smoke used to belch out of the centre stands at games, there was deference to the Old Firm. And Scotland used to win international matches.. A very different world.

The good thing is fans are wise to that pish. Most of it comes from Keef Jackson. Week before we played Celtic, Jackson was spraffing about "Sellik are watching Kamberi". Predictable as it gets. As if our insane defending would make us any sort of threat to Celtic.

I know a number of decent Celtic fans but I dunno what it is with Celtic bloggers. Pound for pound they are some of the most moronic, brain dead, hysterical tadgers ever shat into existence. I'd bet that most don't even attend games, they sit in their shit stained underpants in their maw's spare room bashing out their latest spittle fuelled rage piece about either how it's all the wee teams fault (all masons apparently) and of course Sevcoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Bid was derisory and rightly rejected but may have been Celtic doing HIbs a favour to flush out the English teams looking at McGinn.

And they really don't like it when you remind them of their Tory Board of Directors....

I can't. Even assuming Rangers win the league which is far from a certainty Both Edinburgh sides will have been winning the bulk of their games in front of decent sized crowds all season. Stick them in a play off with a Ross Country or a Killie getting gubbed all season and the bigger club with bigger supports roaring them on will win. Hibs & HeArts are shaping up nicely.

Ooh. Lunch. Mmmm.....

Agreed el Capitan. FFS don't show this thread to anyone vulnerable... or suicidal. Hellbhoy and Tedi's boaby-waving shite will throw them over the edge.

Agreed. He really should knock it on the head.

Never a bad thing to play a bit of Stevie Ray, Topcat. Whilst I was delighted we finally got a result the match itself was something of a tragedy as far as quality goes (there was none) where both sides looked more scared of losing than actually capable of winning. f**k it, I'm gonna play "Couldn't stand the Weather" and "In Step" in the car on the way home.

Not if you read the statement they put out. What's done is done regarding the club and the tax case but the lawyers will have their fun and financial & reputational destruction awaits those they go after. Neither of those will be much of a problem for Phil though as he probably doesn't have any cash and he doesn't have much of a reputation now either since The Sun (larf!) called him a bigot. His book will probably get moved to the Fiction section.

Phil is a c**t btw. One would anticipate that the Murray Group lawyers will go after him, Paul McConville, RTC & others chasing damages with extreme prejudice now. From a business point of view This is one where "sorry" just won't cut it.

And piss more public money away on this shite? Go chase Starbucks and Vodafone you dozy twats

Title stripping smacks of the worst excesses of New Labour coffee table gesture politics to me, "Oooh, something must be done!" It also opens a can of worms. My club was eliminated four of five times from cup competitions by Rangers in the period specified as no doubt were other posters on here. Do we have the right to see financial redress and chase money of course that will never be paid. Utterly pointless. The SFA and SPL would be better imposing proper Financial rules that all clubs have to follow or risk points deductions and automatic relegations like in the Bundesliga rather than try and attempt to change history. Stewart Regan and Neil Doncaster as Nero figures, playing their violins whilst Rome burns.

Unfortunately you are probably wrong. Sky work on viewer numbers and will walk away from Scottish Football using a legitimate break clause in the contract based on sound commercial reasoning. That's not scaremongering, that's harsh commercial reality.

Petrie is supporting the line that Rangers are not allowed in the SPL next season by voting no. As Hibs Chairman that's where his remit begins and ends and that is where he was coming from when talking about Sporting integrity. Petrie met Green because he has a position with the SFA and was duty bound to inform him what was being proposed. That the SPL as a body is giving tacit encouragement for this Division 1 soft landing should come as no surprise but if the SFL clubs tempted by financial sweeteners back it then there really is not much we can do. That's that and it will be time to move on.

And technically Rod Petrie is correct. That's not to say that behind the scenes that Lawell, Petrie, Thomson, Milne et al have not all been furiously lobbying with Neil Doncaster and Stewart Regan for this half baked fudge to come to life.

Perhaps. Ticketus deserve all they get IMHO. Stupid company.

Who says they'll walk for free? They will like every Scottish player in the league be available for transfer. They'll also be part of RFC2012 rather than the debt ridden Oldco. Ticketus's lawyers don't agree.

They won't sell players outwith the Transfer Window. To do so would be madness. As for Ticketus they're chasing Collyer Bristow through the courts for 25m.

That's certainly open to debate. But they have 2 major responsibilities in an insolvency. 1 to try to keep the business trading as a going concern. 2 to try to get a return for the creditors. It's a fine line and one I don't think D&P have trod well at all.

If assets were being sold as RFC1872 then yes they could. But Miller will move them all to RFC2012 which the creditors will have no claim over. Worth posting this again. "What is a hive down? A hive down is a form of reorganisation of a company whereby a business or businesses are transferred to a subsidiary company. It is a common restructuring technique whereby the profitable parts of a business, or valuable assets of an existing company are transferred or hived down to a newly formed subsidiary of that company It is the simplest possible form of company reconstruction. A company in formal insolvency proceedings will sell its business – for a monetary price or shares - to a wholly owned subsidiary which does not have the burden of the liabilities incurred by the original company. It is then possible for the new company to be transferred or sold to the creditors as part of a voluntary arrangement. The old company will be left with its historical debt & the new company will have assets & a clean balance sheet. As soon as the old company has completed its restructuring it will own all the shares in the new company. These will have been issued at a value which is representative of the shares which it transferred to the new subsidiary company. The new company will be protected from the risks & liabilities of the original business following the hive down. This means that if the original company later goes into liquidation its creditors will have no claim on the assets of its new subsidiary. There is less risk of the valuation regarding the transfer of assets to the new company from the old being challenged in a hive down than with other options, & this is one of the main advantages of using this process. The main disadvantage of a hive down is that as the old company will remain a shareholder of the new, if the old company went in to liquidation, the liquidator would control that shareholding & thus also the new company. The process of hive down is therefore mainly used as an interim measure in order to protect the major assets of the original company prior to their transfer either to a third party or another company belonging to the parent company owner/s. In effect it allows the ultimate purchaser to acquire a 'clean' company which does not come with any bad history or unforeseen risks & liabilities. This method of reorganisation may also be used to preserve the benefit of trading losses in the original company. http://www.spw-busin.../hive-down.html "

They will be given the right to accept of block the CVA on Rangers FC plc, however if 75% of the creditors say yes then that is that. It's a difficult position for the Creditors as in simple terms Bill Miller will have transferred all the worthwhile assets (Ibrox, MP, Land, Staff, Goodwill) into the Hive Down Company (Rangers 2012?) hence no asset sale as all that will be left in the old Company will be a load of red coloured balance sheets which he will then attempt to deliver a CVA on. In simple terms, the creditors have a strong chance of getting absolutely fucked. It may come down to the situation of get something or get nothing. Meanwhile the football team will carry on.

Seeing as HMRC are a basket case of an organisation, riddled with incompetence and they generally move with all the speed of a Brontosaurus I wouldn't get my hopes up.

The man is quite honestly insane and round the fucking twist. Batshit mental.