WhiteRoseKillie

TV in the background playing an advert - "There's something for everyone at LegoLand!" - they're not wrong.... BTW, anyone notice the time on RM seems to be an hour behind the rest of us?

Ok, the Boddington's is poured, the corn's popped and 971's about to be punched in. I don't think I've looked forward to a TV programme so much since the last episode of The Sopranos.....

Wullie Pullar might not be in there but, MY GOD how can they defend this lot? Looks like Michael Johnston's got all lubed up for nothing. Kincardine, Bennett, No. 8, bearwithme, knigtswoodbear - your lads are going to take a hell of a beating.

Fixed.

You've just set of my chuckle muscle five hours ahead of schedule! :lol: :lol:

Ok, then, here it is - you lost. It's the appeal that's ongoing, remember? Let's just hope that rangers' contrite, apologetic and transparent response to the original findings can sway the result of that, shall we? Oh, hang on a minute..... It's Butterkist time! Oh, and No.8 - isn't it time you went down Boots and got your prescription refilled? The "anti-trog, speak like a rational person" pills appear to have worn off.

"As this proud footballing giant stands on the brink of extinction, BBC Scotland Investigates the inside story of the scandal which brought Rangers FC to its knees. This is a programme based on dozens of secret emails, letters and documents which uncover the truth behind the tax scheme which threatens the club's very existence, and reveals what went on behind the scenes in the run up to Craig Whyte's infamous takeover. From the day Sir David Murray took up the reigns at Ibrox, through the nine-in-a-row Championship years to the ignominy of owner Craig Whyte's reign and the plunge into administration, this programme charts the descent from glory into chaos of one of Scotland's great institutions. Along the way, investigative reporter Mark Daly goes in search of answers to the questions every Scottish football fan is asking, and attempts to confront those who are responsible for the Ibrox club's plight." (bbc website quote, my bold) Cue green goblins claiming "aye, but, oor titles mair tainted than therrz" Time to buy Butterkist shares, methinks. RM meltdown ahoy!

Sent to the club this morning: Dear Mr Johnston, I have been a Killie fan for all my life. I first attended RP in season 1970-71, and have attended as many games as I can in the ensuing four decades. This has varied from not missing a game for three and a bit seasons in the early '80s to managing half a dozen or so matches a season now (work, family, cost and distance considerations). I've seen us losing to East Stirling and Brechin, I've seen us win national trophies, I've seen us score 8 at Meadowbank and lose 8 at home to Rangers. I've seen us play in Europe, the Anglo-Scottish Cup and the Ayrshire cup. I've watched Killie play in every available level of Scottish senior football, as a full-time club and as a part-time club. At NO time did I believe the club wanted anything other than success for Kilmarnock Football Club. I have, in common with the vast majority of Scottish football fans, been following the developing crisis at Rangers with interest. I will confess, also in common with others, a hint of schadenfreude at the situation. The prevailing opinion amongst those I talk to, and all over the Scottish football websites which I read, is that Rangers deserve to be punished, and punished fairly, for any and all wrongdoing over the last few years. Recently, you were quoted on the BBC as having said that financial considerations MAY take precedence over sporting integrity when decisions on Rangers' future are voted upon. I have not seen any retraction or denial of this statement from you, so I think I can assume that you did say this. Now, I see another quote from yourself: "I am a solicitor by profession and in terms of the distinction between a CVA and a newco, it can become quite complicated but at the end of the day, from a creditors' point of view, there is maybe no difference," he said. "In terms of how it affects a sporting competition, I do share the view and I think the football authorities have traditionally taken the view, that a football club is not to be identified 100% with the people that own it, or the corporate entity that owns it. "A football club has its own identity which consists of various components – the history of the club, the stadium, the players but most importantly, the supporters. So you have got to be careful if you are trying to protect a football club which is a very long-standing and historical institution. "You have got to be very careful not to come in too heavily with penalties and points deductions or financial penalties going forward which actually put people off investing in that club and trying to make it healthy. After all, it's not the new owners who have done the damage, it is the previous owners." I'm sorry, Mr. Johnston, but this goes way beyond considering the financial implications of Rangers losing their SPL place. I expect you, and anyone connected with Kilmarnock, to strive for the best outcome for Kilmarnock especially, and Scottish football in general. I do not believe these interests would be well served by kowtowing to this "long-standing and historical institution". Are we really supposed to be happy to accept the crumbs falling from the "big" teams' table? Should we be happy to provide the opposition in warm-up games for the Old Firm's annual assault on Europe? As I said above, I have followed Killie through good and bad – but always in the faith that the team would do their best, and that the club had nothing but the most honest ambitions for Kilmarnock Football Club – who, I shouldn't have to remind you, are a more long-standing institution than either of the Old Firm. We have always taken pride in being Scotland's oldest professional club. However unrealistic, we should be striving to be the best team in our league, and we will NEVER achieve that if we continue to allow the Old Firm to grab the lion's share of the money available in the SPL. There is no doubt that the loss of Rangers would change the landscape in Scottish football. Rather than bemoan the short-term loss of an arguable amount of cash, why are you, and your colleagues in the SPL, not seizing an opportunity for change? You refer to Rangers as an "institution" – a description which could also apply to slavery, and I don't think we miss that, do we? What is in front of us at the moment, Mr. Johnston, is a one-off deal. Rangers have got themselves into a mess which would cause any "normal" company to cease to exist. Should they be allowed to continue because of some "special" status? A status of being a beacon for some of the least attractive aspects of Scottish society, of protectionist business policies, of arrogance towards their peers, of a willingness to leave their country of origin for financial gain? I can still remember the Old Firm apologists telling us a few years ago how Scottish football would "prosper" if they left for pastures new, and yet now we're told by the same "experts" that the game will die if Rangers go to the wall. I don't claim to have the answers, but I would love to find out. I am pleased to see that you have re-signed Mr. Shiels as team manager. Might I suggest you think about the following quote from him – he appears to be more in tune with the support than yourself. "We're a West of Scotland club with no baggage. If you're a good parent and want to bring your children up in a way where they understand good values and also morals, they can come and have a fun time and enjoy it here. "It doesn't stink of external influences and if those parents want to send them to Kilmarnock, it would be a very good choice, I'd have thought. I want us to be better, bring better people into the club and go on in a better manner." "Go on in a better manner", Mr. Johnston. If you choose to do so, I will remain a loyal supporter of Kilmarnock Football Club. If you prefer my club to "know their place" and accept what scraps are thrown to them, then I want no part of it. Neither do many other supporters. It is unfortunate that you have made the statement quoted above. Did you pause to think that this statement reflects on the entire club, INCLUDING those of us who only wish to see Killie to compete on as level a playing field as possible? Did you pause to consider that you were representing OUR club when you said this, or the effect on peoples' perceptions of our club and, by extension, the fans? I and many other Killie fans are angry and upset at your statements, Sir. I ask you to do the right thing in any upcoming vote and remember that you are representing a proud, venerable and above all HONEST club while doing so. You are Chairman of KILMARNOCK Football Club, and should owe no allegiance or favouritism to any other club. Yours Sincerely, (last season, approximately£130 kits, £300 tickets, £60 pies/drinks, £150 assorted merchandise - not a lot in the grand scheme, but it might well not be there next season)

As a Killie fan of 40+ years, I would like to apologise to everyone here (except the idiot berz and their green business partners) for the spineless, craven eunuch who is our current chairman. I gave him the benefit of the doubt once, but it's obvious he's got the KY out and is ready for the currants to make him their bitch (like he isn't already). Well, Mr Johnston, in my time at RP I've watched Killie in every division of Scottish football, as a full-time club and part-time. I've seen us win national trophies and I've seen us fail to win the A*rshire Cup. If you do not listen to the fans, not just Killie's but the overwhelming majority of Scotlands' clubs, then you should get the feck out of football. You. Sir, are a disgrace, a fannyclanger knobflump mingemuppet complete and utter arsehole.

As I've stated before, if they're still there, I'm done. If they are gone, completely, as they should be, I'll be buying my first RP season ticket for over twenty years, even though I'll still probably only make between three and six trips to TTOP - and it'll be an adult/child combo, as No. 4 daughter wants to see "Daddy's Team"....

Has Wee Chick been moonlighting, perchance....

Aye, I got accepted last week (clue: when Killie players go bad), and I feel like a hibiscrub wash after every visit. I would find it surprising that now they're crawling into the light, police action isn't taken over their continual hate-filled bile. Any currants thinking Dingbat is the future should be sectioned.

Aye. Like there are loads of decent rangers fans around with no bigoted views, as long as you ignore the "minority" of knuckle dragging troglodytes who seem to get all the publicity....

DEAR GOD NOOOOO!!!!!!!

If MJ recants what he's reported(but still no retraction) to have said, I'll consider buying one for an orc-free SPL, even if I only make half a dozen or so games. Bit of a "thankyou" for growing a pair, if you like.

Maybe if Bungalow Bill mentioned the opportunity to some of his US acquaintances, it could be the Rainy Knights of Georgia..... I'll get me coat.

Lacist!

Just step outside yourself for a minute. OK, now look at your club and its fans. Seen worse anywhere on the planet? Nah, didn't think so.

You'd have thought Spiers would have been convalescing after Cosgrove ripped him a new one at the weekend.....

Buying rangers as the price H&D would accept drops like a stone becomes more and more appealing - until you get close enough to the stench of bigotry. As there don't appear to be many "rangers-minded" bidders out there with a pot to piss in, let alone wealth that might creep ONTO the radar, their fans are enough to ward off even the most avaricious asset stripper. I think I'll be polishing up those shoes pretty damn soon - might even give MJ a chance to wriggle out of last week's nonsense statement. Not sure I can forgive him, but it will be nice to see a cleaner league, and even nicer watching the green trogs trying to work out how they can play the "victim" card now.

440 viewers of this topic - 170+ members, the rest RM users whose forum is as fecked as their team! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I still reckon this looks like a mutant swallowing a normal sized bloke who's screaming as he's sucked into the monster's maw.... Ah.......just me, then?

Aye they could proper suffer, especially as rangers could be replaced by Dundee. Who the hell would turn up at Tannadice for that match? Looks like you've got yer knuckle-dragging hat on today, No 8. To be clear, we don't want rangers (or Govan Red Hands 1690) in the SPL. We don't want them in the third division. We don't want them in Scotland. We want them DEAD.

Yeah, but look at the sh!t they put on it every fortnight! Badoom, Tish!

Aye, 'cos it was rangers that beat them in both cups this season.....