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27 minutes ago, Moomintroll said:

I am raging beyond all belief, I feel like starting on the skag.

That's your choice.

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6 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

as an absolute horror show of a human

You horrible, arrogant w****r.

Do you get some kind of kick out of being an abusive wee scrote? 

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1 minute ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

It really is though.

Nope.

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1 minute ago, Bairnardo said:

I actually think tibbermoresaint and oaksoft should be banned for spouting that pish tbh. Disgusting.

 

1 minute ago, Dee Man said:

M8, if there's one good thing about this thread is that it's outed you to the rest of the forum as the tedious c**t that Dundee fans have known about for a long time. 

Cry. Cry. Cry.

But give this dreary hand-wringing up. It's tedious.

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7 minutes ago, Dee Man said:

"Depression isn't an illness" 

 

It isn't.

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33 minutes ago, Moomintroll said:

BB being accused of being a snowflake, he has actually outmintered his previous levels of minterism.

You really shouldn't have tempted fate..

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1 minute ago, Brother Blades said:

You really don’t understand the meaning of snowflake, do you?

You're desperate for your 5 seconds of fame. Bore off.

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Just now, Brother Blades said:

But don’t snort that pinch of salt lads, you are choosing to be junkie scum.

TS, you really are a great troll or a hard hearted, soft brained arsehole. I know which one I think you are.

Go and be a snowflake somewhere else.

[Polling: 2017 General Election, Council Elections and Independence]

More grist to the mill:

 

https://www.comresglobal.com/polls/britain-elects-westminster-voting-intention-july-2019/

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2 minutes ago, Stinky Bone said:

Amazing points of view on this topic @Tibbermoresaint, I have read your comments and I wish to say that I do not agree with them at all.  Which is my right.  

I must say it appears you are an addict to this thread and maybe need to seek help.  I fear that you may be on the brink of some sort of breakdown. 

There are clinics to help with dependency issues. 

Leave the thread for the sake of your own sanity. 

Are there clinics to deal with hysteria? I hope for your sake there are.

 

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1 minute ago, 19QOS19 said:

19 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

It comes as a result of a decision being made. Tragically for some babies others inflict their choices upon them.

Incredible.

Indeed. But it happens.

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Just now, ICTJohnboy said:

 

I had no idea that an addiction of this nature could be described as an illness.

It isn't.

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Just now, 19QOS19 said:

5 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

They did not choose to take drugs. Someone else made that decision for them. 

So you agree physical addiction is a real thing and not as simple as saying "they choose to be addicted"?

It comes as a result of a decision being made. Tragically for some babies others inflict their choices upon them.

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1 minute ago, Moomintroll said:

6 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 
Sorry, no I didn't.
What did they say?

Basically telling a poster that his Nephew deserved to die and that he was a terrible Uncle because his Nephew was a drug addict. Pretty vile stuff that me & throbber called out immediately, he should have been booted there & then.

 I'd take this with a large pinch of salt.

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3 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

7 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

Did they choose to take drugs? No. 

No they didn't but their body is physically addicted to a substance. How are you failing to see you're completely proving my point by contradicting yourself?

They did not choose to take drugs. Someone else made that decision for them. 

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2 minutes ago, G_Man1985 said:

16 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

You're also trying too hard.

Incorrect. Wasn't me who got his posts deleted for being a c**t.

You're still trying too hard. 

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2 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

11 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

They didn't make a choice.

And yet they are addicted to a substance. Kind of proves the point that physical addiction is a real thing and not a choice as you and oaksoft claim, which is entirely the point I'm making.

Did they choose to take drugs? No. 

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Just now, 19QOS19 said:

So babies addicted to heroin choose to be addicted to heroin?

 

They didn't make a choice.

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2 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

 

 

This is staggeringly ignorant. I agree that choosing to go down the route of taking drugs is a choice. The reasons why folk do it have been done to death on here so there's no point in giving my views on it. But to say addiction is a choice is just completely wrong. Physical addiction is a real thing. The body craves the fix. If the person woke up the next day and decided "right, no more drugs". They couldn't get up and carry on a normal day, the body would need the hit. Just look at withdrawal effects on any health website. Are you seriously suggesting the person chooses to have these symptoms? It gets to a point the person wants a hit as much to get rid of the physical withdrawal symptoms than the (likely) psychological problems that made them start in the first place. You're right in that people do have to want to go clean but that's because they need to be in a place where they are going to be able to first get over the struggle of withdrawal and then be able to deal with the problems that made them start in the first place.

Babies born to drug addicts will be on methadone programmes a lot of the time because their bodies are addicted. If addiction wasn't a real thing can you give your thoughts on why this happens?

 

Don't choose to take drugs and you won't be addicted. Addiction is a choice.

 

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1 minute ago, G_Man1985 said:

7 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

 You're trying far too hard.

You are responding to absolutely everything. You say you have hope , we know this is a lie.

You're also trying too hard.

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Just now, Moomintroll said:

3 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

You think wrongly.

Well if you say so then I must have been right in the first place.

 You're trying far too hard.

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1 minute ago, Moomintroll said:

20 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

Some people get upset when I call others snowflakes. So I won't. Can we just take it as read that you are?

I don't think Conservative voting Brexiteers are allowed to be snowflakes tbh.

You think wrongly.

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2 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

I think there's grounds to say that a drug addict has a mental illness.

Incredible.

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1 minute ago, Silverton End said:

Addiction is an illness, from shopping to gambling to heroin. Certain people have addictive personas.

Nope.

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Just now, ali_91 said:

Learn to have some empathy, some humanity and a little less hate in your heart.    Better yourself.  

As you say, we all have choices, choose to be less of a c**t. X

There's no hate in my heart. Only hope.