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Don't know if this interview with Doncaster after the signing of the new TV deal has been posted already. From the Scotsman website. By STEPHEN HALLIDAY Published on Tuesday 22 November 2011 00:50 "Sky and ESPN did not ask for any assurance regarding the size of the league," insisted Doncaster. "That's not the way they operate. They work in a regulatory manner, so you tell them what it is you would like them to price, then they make an offer. "That's what we did. In our situation, we had the status quo of 12 teams. We have 60 games which we make available to sell and Sky and ESPN made a bid for those games. There are no assurances, in terms of Friday night fixtures or anything else like that. "Old Firm involvement had to be guaranteed, but that's been the case for a number of years. It's the case with all of the major sponsorships we enter into. "One of the conditions is that Celtic and Rangers remain part of the league. It is also a condition that they play each other four times a season. That's been with us for the entirety of the deal with Sky and before that with Setanta. "Reconstruction remains a subject under discussion with the SFA and the clubs. I don't think today's announcement has a particular bearing on reconstruction. What it does mean is that clubs can plan with certainty for another five years. "The league can't meaningfully expand anyway. As we have previously pointed out, if you expand to a 16-team league, playing each other once at home and once away, that costs Scottish football around £20 million. So it's not viable to expand the league to that size. "Much as we would all like to see a set-up of teams playing each other once at home and once away each season, that's the ideal scenario, it's not affordable. We have made that clear from day one. "There is no room to manoeuvre in terms of expanding. Fourteen might potentially work in terms of having a split league and retaining four Old Firm games. ]"Maybe that would be feasible. But it has never been feasible to have 16, 18 or 20 because you automatically mean going to one home game and one away. We think that will take £20 million out of Scottish football. That is a massive amount of money per season, in terms of lost gate and TV revenue. The lost gate revenue is not to be underestimated. So going to 16, 18 or 20 is impossible, financially."

I'm confused. I was having a look for something else and came across and article about the new £80m 5 year SPL TV deal, running until the end of the 2016-17 season, this one. http://www.guardian....v-deal-sky-espn Beside the fact that it would seem that it was Doncaster who wrote in the 4 OF games a season clause as a way to block league reconstruction, my sums don't seem to add up when I looked at this article. http://www.guardian....spn-sky-tv-deal From what I can tell looking at other sources the 2009 TV deal was a £65M 3 year deal with the option to extend for a further 2 years. That's £21.66666666M a year. The 2 year extension wasn't needed as an £80M 5 year deal was agreed, starting from the start of the 2012-13 season. That's £16M a year. So a worse deal, right? My confusion comes from the fact that the first article and others have this as a £3M a year increase on the old deal. If the £65M deal was for 5 years (which it wasn't) then that would be £13M a year. That in turn would make the £80M, 3 year deal (which it isn't) work out at £26.666666M a year. The only way I can get my sums to work is if the £65M is a 5 year deal (£13M a year) and the £80M deal is for 5 years making it a £16M a year deal. This equals a £3M increase on the last deal, sorted. This should also mean that the new deal doesn't start until the beginning of the 2014-15 season and runs until 2019 (which it doesn't). My point is this new TV deal is much worse isn't it? I am bad at maths so can somebody explain this to me?

I would think they would welcome the chance in La Liga. As the top two negotiate their own TV rights and have a different debt level at the detriment to the rest of the league.

This whole situation has become the film High Noon. Sheriff is faced with the return of a criminal who is out on a legal technicality. Wifey says, it's nothing to do with us, lets just move on. Criminal returns to town with three other gang members and calls sheriff out. Sheriff shoots down two of the gang and the wife helps with the other. And they both help to kill the villain.

Has this been posted yet? FIFA's rules. http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/just-apply-the-rules-mr-regan/

Good stuff today and assuming everything goes well with the SFL vote it'll soon be time to support your club and chairmen. Apart from attending games buying merchandise will also help. How about buying your new football top, get your chairman's name on the back and if possible a big "NO" where the number should be. f**k knows what Kilmarnock fans could do, maybe substitute the NO for "meh".

Not all debts just footballing debts, to other clubs and the likes.

I blame ourselves . We obviously weren't clear enough with our chairmen, we need to spell it out. NO NEWCO IN THE SPL NO NEWCO IN ANY 2ND TIER SPL NO NEWCO IN SFL DIVISION 1 NO NEWCO IN SFL DIVISION 2 NEWCO MUST APPLY TO JOIN SFL DIVISION 3 It's like telling a kid to clean they're room. At a glance the room looks tidy until you notice a rather bumpy rug and a bed that seems to rest on a plinth of toys.

FUCKING ................................. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

I am tired of people saying football is more of a business than a sport, fine. If sevco 5088/sevco scotland want into the 1st Division they can pay for the privilege. They can wipe out the debt of every SPL and SFL club with a £5m bonus to those with no debt and they can pay for Aberdeen's new stadium (just 'cause). Question: Would all the debt of every club in the SPL and SFL be more or less than the total debt of rangers at the end?

OBITUARIES Rangers Football Club 1872-2012 More than 1000 fans turned up to bid farewell to Rangers Football Club, the somber affair was presided over by the hon. John Brown. An initial verdict of death by misadventure was recorded in the postmortem. Rangers Football Club (140) is survived by it's brother Celtic.

Marseille? Corruption? f**k me. I'm watching John Brown prt 3 (with brilliant subtitles?). Anyone got working links to the other two?

Two of the verses from the John Brown Song from the US civil war John Brown. His pet lambs will meet him on the way, His pet lambs will meet him on the way, His pet lambs will meet him on the way, They go marching on! Now, three rousing cheers for the Union, Now, three rousing cheers for the Union, Now, three rousing cheers for the Union, As we are marching on!

Sums up pretty much every ones attitude (missed saying knock the bigoted shit on the head though).

A few years ago I remember chatting to a Celtic chum about Rangers (as you do), don't worry nothing nice was said. I remember him saying "That's the problem with you Dons fans, you think you hate the **** as much as us, but you don't, nobody can." As it turns out, everybody hates rangers/sevco 5088 equally, with the exception of Celtic of course. Their utter seething hatred of rangers/sevco seems to be rendering them relatively mute.

I don't think Aberdeen could afford the policing costs of that game.

Has any one started a Sevco SOBB fan site yet?

Personally, I am still not sure the asset sale to newco is concrete. There is also no guarantee newco will be able to complete a season in the SFL. With the speed at which the old squad is refusing joining newco and lack of money from season tickets, they may not have a squad. What do you say to player you want to sign to newco. "We don't know who your team mates will be, we don't know which league we'll be playing in and we don't know how much we can pay you. Interested?" Or you can make shit up I guess.

I don't think it's actually 11-1 vote. It is 90% of votes, so a 10-1 vote would pass it. I think they'll sort this out before the assign rangers replacements and in time for the start of the new season.

Hopefully the Thursday SPL meeting will be used for telling Celtic what's, what. Setting a timetable for change of the voting rights and the split of TV money.

Hasn't she already got what she needs. Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue.

Dunno, but I think it'll funny this year.

Hunbelievably I saw on RM they think Traynor yes JIM TRAYNOR hates them.

I would hope SPL clubs are thinking of their futures and swooping in to get old rangers youth stars for no money.

I would see newco getting into the 1st Division as an even bigger betrayal to Scottish football than them getting into the SPL. The SPL is made up of selfish, self interested clubs and chairmen, and to an extent that's what fans demands has made them. Everyone would be horrified but no one surprised if the SPL voted newco into the SPL. I'm sure they would have done so already if not for fan pressure. The SFL is blameless in all of this and to cut the feet of 20 clubs to just to (supposedly) secure TV payments to the SPL, is sickening. I know that policing costs would be more, but there is no doubt that a newco would financially benefit all SFL leagues as they tried to work their way back to the SPL. That aside the new company has no right to leap over clubs that have been going for over a hundred years, legitimately. SFA/SFL/SPL GET A FUCKING GRIP.