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This is it. If - almost certainly, when - the Buns are found guilty of the BTC/EBT fraud, that's the opportunity to get them papped out of the entire Scottish league, never mind relegation to the third. If diddling tax for a few months is that serious, what's diddling the entire league for more than a decade worth? If you thought Rangers Media and the rest were bad for paranoia and revenge fantasies now, just imagine what they'll be like if some loony feeds them enough cash to be resurgent in the top division in five years. RFC - The Club The Cafflick Teams And The Bheast SFA Couldn't Kill. This is a shutting-down-SkyNet-before-it-fires-off-the-nukes moment. It's like that old question about, would you knock off Hitler if you had a time machine? There's only one answer - every street Adolf walked down would have to be full of pianos dangling off ropes and cunningly disguised pitfalls. The alternative is too horrible to think about.

That A Call To Arms post is hilarious. Here's the full list of crimes that the author thinks Rangers are being punished for... One man's totalitarian rule at Ibrox has ravaged our club. He sold some of our cherished heritage, he banished Rangers legends making their role at Ibrox untenable, he sold star players for less than their market value and by his actions tarnished the name and reputation of Rangers Football Club. Can any sharp-eyed P&Bers spot any crimes or misdemeanours missing from that charge sheet? I don't think Rangers got slapped with record fines and a transfer ban because Craig Whyte sold "star players" for "less than their market value" or because he sold the "cherished heritage" of the club. There was other stuff going on, surely... No wonder these trumpets are confused.

It's certainly representative of the rank, anyway...

its a catch 22 situation, Punish Rangers as they deserve and other clubs will suffer. The only fair solution would be a hefty punishment not involving demotion or removal from the league. Don't care. If it results in my club losing a whack of income, having to get rid of expensive players, losing out on the Champions' League slot or even worse, or making us uncompetitive in whatever European competition we do manage to get, whatever. Justice has to be done and it has to be seen to be done. If that leaves us with a Catch-22 that could damage all of Scottish football, well that's because Rangers have forced this situation on the rest of us through their own incredible financial monkey business. Rangers didn't dope the league for the benefit of the entire SPL, after all. Having diddled everyone else for more than a decade, it won't do to now demand to be allowed to screw everyone all over again because Rangers have ballsed up so badly that everyone is going to suffer as a result. Demotion to Division 3 seems lenient to me. If that's the appropriate punishment - and going by the judgement of the last tribunal, Rangers fans should consider themselves damn lucky if it isn't a lot worse - then it should be applied sooner rather than later, and everyone else will just have to live with the damage they've done, even though it it's nobody else's fault.

I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Hibs and Dundee United, having been to a couple of their games with Hibby/Arab mates over the years. The rest, can't say I'm bothered one way or the other. Don't spend much time thinking about them, can't really muster any strong emotions. Lazio, on the other hand... I'd like to see them get a Craig White of their very own...

Doubt it. I'm swithering over which Simpsons clip to post - the one where Bart keeps trying to pick up the electrified cupcake, or the one where Sideshow Bob keeps standing on the rakes and getting hit in the face.

It may well be out of the clubs' hands. Given that the SFA panel regarded Craig White's non-payment of tax as second only to match-fixing in terms of cheating and bringing the game into disrepute, and considered kicking them out of the senior game for it, you have to wonder how they're going to deal with ten years of tax-dodging and playing ineligible players. If White's comparatively minor offences got them whacking fines and a twelve-month signing ban, everything that's going to fall out of the tax cases is going to require a tactical nuclear strike on Ibrox, I would've thought.

Seconded.

I forget who it was, but somebody on this thread has been saying for weeks that it looked like H&D had quickly spotted that Rangers were boned, then set about clocking up as many fat fees as they could by dragging RFC to the end of the season. Now we're nearly there, they're about to sell the whole thing and drive away with their pockets bulging. Whoever it was, the geezer looks like Nostradamus for prophesying this excellent situation.

Haudit & Daudit reckon they've got a load of interested buyers waiting in the wings. Maybe so, maybe so.

Mind you, it'll be interesting to see how the SFA are going to explain this to UEFA. Not that I'd expect them to ride to anyone's rescue, but....

I'll watch games on TV and listen to them on radio, but that would be it for attending games* and buying stuff. Spartans v Edinburgh City the big derby I'd be at next year. *Insert "Nothing new there" gag here.

No doubt. I wouldn't want to be the Celtic exec who saved Rangers, though. Not unless I owned a heavily-defended compound in Mexico.

Pish. Demotion to the third is lenient, if you ask me. If a human being had stolen all that money, they'd be looking at years in prison, decades even. Give them the electric chair and have done with it.

Fair and square too, whatever you may have heard from others. I predict you're going into the Biggest Final Evar off the back of a four-nil hounding at Parkhead, though.

Easiest way to achieve this next season - beat our team on the park all year so we get relegated. Give it a bash, and best of luck...

I'd be more sympathetic to True Blue John and all these other tear-streaked ex-Gers board members if they handed back some of the fat salaries they picked up for, basically, showing up at games and not inquiring to closely where all the cash was coming from. If I was a Currant Bun, with my club on the verge of extinction, and these gravy train-riding jokers had been trousering wads of cash for doing nothing until Craig Whyte gave them the heave-ho, I'd tell them to stick their genuine outrage at Whytey up their backsides. Never mind Craigy-boy, I'd be saying - where was your passion for the club's best interests when Sir Minty was racking up a club-crushing tax bill and cheating like there was no tomorrow? Of course, I'm not a Bun, so I just laughed like a drain through Chick's emotional tale of big John's emotional turmoil. GIRFU the pair of them.

Well, at least we're hearing less about how Scotland needs "a strong Rangers", which was the constant mantra a few weeks back. Now, they're happy just to settle for "a Rangers" in any form. God only knows how anyone thought a "strong Rangers" was going to emerge from this process. Maybe they thought HMRC might agree how vital they are to all of our lives and give them a ten-year tax holiday, or something.

Bottom line is, the Big Rangers Administration Thread must stay open.

It's got so bad, I don't care about anything else. Regardless - Celtic can be so impoverished that they can't compete in Europe at all. My team loses out on loads of SPL titles, Scottish Cups and League Cups; the entire league turns into some half-arsed Welsh effort. Hopefully it won't affect the national team to badly, but it probably will. None of it matters - we'll take our lumps, and accept the consequences. If it means my team are brutally injured for two decades or a hundred years, so be it. Justice has to be done. That mob have to die, sooner rather than later. Scandalous cheating should mean death, full stop. If it screws us, then too bad. Natural justice has to run its course.

Jardine is threatening to hand back his Hall of Fame medal. Oh no, anything but that! The SFA must be quaking in their boots. Just in case Sandy happens past Pie & Bov, can I just say - keep the medal, geezer. You earned it! Why not ask Haudit & Daudit if we can have back the tens of millions of quid in unpaid tax, ripped-off transfer fees and Champions League revenue Rangers stole? As a gesture of goodwill, they can keep all their ill-gotten titles and cups, since they probably won't be winning any more in the foreseeable future.

A full list of the options available to Rangers fans who feel their club has been mistreated follows. 1) Shutting the fcuk up and accepting whatever sanctions are imposed upon them, then greeting into their steakbakes when their club gets punted down to the third division. 2) Shutting the fcuk up and accepting whatever sanctions are imposed upon them, then greeting into their steakbakes when their club is exterminated out of existence or 3) That's it. Sandy Jardine's like the wee guy in the boozer making all the noise about how he's going to go totally mental, likes, if he doesn't get his way, but never does anything. About as intimidating as an angry chihuahua, and carrying about the same level of threat.

7,000 jokers demanding special treatment. "We don't do paying our bills - let us stay in the SPL without sanctions, or we'll be very, angry and do... something". If they'd handed their boo-hoo letter to me, I'd thank them politely, then take it indoors so that me and all my SFA mates could laugh at their list of demands until the tears streamed down our faces. Then, I'd make it into a paper aeroplane and send it zooming into the bin, where their whining, entitled complaints and veiled threats belong. And then, the liquidation party. Drinks are on me, get the Jagerbombs out....

Sandy Jardine threatening us now with some kind of non-specific revenge if Rangers don't get what they want and I, for one, am pure shiteing myself in terror.