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And they would have gotten away with it to, if it wasn't for those meddling Diddy Teams.

Cringe oh dear. I think it was better when there was ambiguity to MT's question.

You could be onto something there.

Not at all it is a typical piece of dreadful journalism that is synonymous with Klaxon. Firstly on an article on the Nomad situation but gives no details on these complaints, any decent hack would have bullet pointed them with a timeline and an explaination of what these transgretions were and how they effected the club. The What we get is another rehash of the loanees and other stuff, the cost of the EGM that are already common knowledge. If you keep repeating the same story it tends to because you want that to be ingrained in the mentality of the readership. So what on the face of it is some questioning of the new regime it more or less covers the same stuff with the PM interview.

Well you could offer up nothing a bit like the Sevco bank balance and wait until after the event or more accurately non-event as you are at this present time delisted when whatever charlatan you are following this week proclaims victory and how you are better off on your own, and you take the bait and get reeled in yet again. I know enough to know you are fucked unless you find someone with wealth off the radar or more realistically you get used to digging deep at regular intervals. Yae trying to undermine me will improve your situation . No wonder your reanimate corpse of a club is in the state it is. How long will the 1.5m last ?

Profit making football club how very gauche, couldn't have that at an 'establishment' club like Sevco.

No I give you there are aspects of the workings of the club you have more experience and the share issue I was completely oblivious of. Hey if you didn't offer an opinion on your club you'd be watching football in Govan. Was the consortium idea not to ensure you didn't have another Brearley type character, we did and it nearly sunk us. At the time we had John Wilson as Chairman and he was a marmite character we brought through lots of players sold them in a fashion that would make the guy from the Cillit Bang commercials blush. He eventually sold out to Hugh Scott after trying to sell the club and our goose was cooked. I don't know if that is the ultimate reason but may offer a rationale. Over the years my opinion of JW has shifted ok selling to HS was a monumental fuckup but like King, Green, Whyte and Minty they came with promising everything the supporters wanted to hear but we only fell for it once, Wilson did lots of unpopular things that needed to be done, perhaps thats how Gilmour will be perceived in the future. So you never know what will come next although I understand the frustration and the lack of energy that seems to prevail at your club at moment and that change is needed as long as its a positive one for the club.

To be fair he wasn't the only one and his task is/was to make your club viable so in any business uncertainty is never a good thing so the major change would have created anxiety amongst many. Ok, we can reflect on guys like Turnbull Hutton at Raith but then the defunct Rangers meant financially nothing, but to St Mirren it would. Its a sport and if we are going to do a Lance Armstrong then the stigma and loss of credibility is something that can be just as toxic. Given the dysfunctional existence of Sevco the fans and chairmen who took that stance have been vindicated but I can understand Gilmour who overall his tenure has been positive despite possible relegation this season. He saved you from being asset stripped and progressed the club, it has a a decent infrastructure, don't think he ever claimed to have millions to throw at you but he has worked extremely hard in difficult circumstances.

and the deflection continues because you are afraid to ask questions. I know that the LSE is one of the least regulated markets and if King struggles with their rules you better hang on for another journey. It is rather convenient the money they hope to raise via the share issue is of a similar amount to get you to Europe, so with that you would expect some serious forensic auditing from your seasons in the seaside leagues.

Yae thats ok if you were preaching good governance but you ant more money thrown at the bottomless pit. You couldn't even offer an opinion on whether to remain on the AIM. The only time you all open your mouths is if you aren't winning and therefore lording it over everyone with the usual empty slogans. Now I have offered like many other their opinions and the only thing from Sevconians is deflection or a bit of collective posting when you have won, nothing about the viability of the club or why you continually find yourselves defending another self inflicted wound, see the Graham fiasco to highlight the crass stupidity of the appointment. Yes they are still combing through the accounts and the most worrying thing is the lack of medicals of some last minute loan signings in a deal that will cost £65k reportedly. Ok then answer me this when did you secure the £5m from MA ? Why did you need another £1.5m ? How long will that money last and is the other £5m that was offered in reality what you need to see out the season. But you go on and question those asking the questions as you clearly don't have an opinion or gumption to ask.

Yae sorry I still baulk at the £70m spent !! Please note Tedi, when people make valid points in a debate you acknowledge them as it not only gives a greater insight into the discussion. I omitted the scale of the debt and as you say thats what has been divulged to the public domain there will no doubt be a host of other businesses who have invoices pending. They also sold MacLeod and the money went to HMRC that would hint at a struggling business model.

and now the deflection, you can't admite you can't take the criticism of anyone highlighting the plot holes in the journey. So how much are you losing per annum ? How will that be rectified or funded, a business with 500k supporters don't usually get traded for a £1 but the businesses that do are in deep financial problems that in the original version was terminal. The xenamorph that burst out of its chest has now invested in spraying urine against a large bricked surface £70million of money raised and is back to the Minty era of using other peoples and doing deals to make it look like you are ticking along. Another share issue ? how many and how often is that going to be used in the hope that the supporters will hide the true extent of DK or some other shysters wealth and willingness to use there own money. Going back to my previous post of Bill Murray his figures would hold up that the chasm is £30million ok you have brought it down but still the 1.5 to 2 million a month and thats not acceptable as you are brainwashed into thinking someone will use there own money to make everything ok. The reality is these people are not wealthy enough to spunk the £ you require to keep the hordes happy and your support doesn't generate enough dough either. The original entity left you with a very different landscape in terms of how you can raise capital, no lending from the banks and now the investment houses have bailed but it doesn't matter if you aren't on the AIM according to Dave as it costs too much or no one will chip in to the pot, so that leaves you at this time with 2 options both internal sources of finance is it enough ? Given that most successful businesses attract financial support as others view it as a vehicle to make them profit, you can't generate enough you never did ok some years were better than others but its a wreck now whether you can blame the disparency of TV cash paid compared to the EPL but your problem is you still spend as though you do. Sevco cash rich in 2012 debt free after abandoning the creditors of the previous entity but still want to be the same and in many ways you are certainly the speed you go through money has been retained along with the 5 stars.

. What a 'Tedi ' you are, someone nominate him for 5 stars, calling others obsessed while checking up on the postings of others Thats superb I'm going to greeny you for that level of hypocrisy.

lest we forget, your self destruction should serve as a warning to all, killed by your own hubris. The fact that after 3 years having spent £70 million on putting the other uber diddy teams to the sword with a few lolfests on the way you are now in the red, not only that, the self inflicted wounds and so many laughathons along the way yet at no pint is there ever an admission of we are collectively dicks, who have fallen for the same trick over and over again. The vacuous emblems and claims to keep you subservient to another bunch of dubious character over the last 25 years has been enthralling. Come see who is running Sevco now and the regurgitating the same claims is hilarious yet here we go round again, someone one has to say they have deep pockets and you turn into some pre teenage girl at a one Direction gig. Nice deflection but if you and your ilk had more critical awareness about those you claim are the 'good guys' or have wealth off the radar then these threads wouldn't be the schadenfraude voyuerism fests they are. So to highlight my interest in the solution to the dog shit filled pavement of an organisation you were and have rejuvenated into the Minty daydream was a series of flecing supporters, other peoples money and the banks basically a ponsi scheme and as soon as someone said I want my money back it was exposed, agree or are we just going induce the usual amnesia, prior to that you had Lawrence Marlborough who again just ran out of money, his own, in his defence but then you weren't exactly attracting full houses as you weren't throwing money you didn't have on Tore Andre Flo it was more Colin Jackson and Gregor Stevens. Craig Whyte was the Lee Harvey Oswald, Sir Dave done what every egotist will do is throw the woman and children out of the lifeboat just so they can have their personal space, he got rid to save himself. The others that have followed Chucky could smell a quick buck to be made and with no concern other than that brought out the same empty phrasebook to entice the gullible keeping the Salary on and playing the victim card. The response of the hordes to those players who refuse to TUPE over was and still is disgusting but displays the mentality of the average supporter and Green's reson d'être was to get the £ rolling in as it would be soon gone. When they brought MA and started to sell the off the trinkets like the merchandising in order to keep the facade you were cash rich. The last honest guy to walk through the doors at Ibrox was the american guy Murray who within days, (see the difference between honesty and duplicity) that the original Rangers had a £30 million blackhole and you chased him. in stark contrast DK is still reviewing the financial situation after 3 weeks, you would have to be pretty niave to digest that one. So now another regime promising a return to the Minty era using your wallets utilising the same tried and tested methods of previous who either to fleece yous or financially ruined the club or themselves. So DK is so respectful of the SFA rulesI wonder what the SARS thinks of this road to demascus change. You concentrate and attack those who comment and leave the governance of your 2nd version to Paul Murray, I wonder who will pointing and laughing loudest and you are again skint after the next share issue that will keep you running for another year. I fully admit to rubbernecking at carcrashclusterfuck FC 2012, it may make me a bad person but thankfully not gullible.

I love the whole obvious bubble the supporters of Sevco and Celtic have with the MSM, each claim these organisations are biased towards the other, yet lap up the fluff fillers like a stray dog eating its own vomit. Oh how they massage the ego of these Glasgow Giants and in Sevco's case yes giants, I don't recall the Jags winning the 4th and 3rd tier championships in a trot, so well done them ! I take it thats what Clark meant when they were 'having their day'. So when the Sevconians are shouting it's all about us , yes you are refereing to the amount of absolute literary jizem that infests the back pages of the tabloids but its to keep you throwing money into the chasm that is whatever version we are up to who play out of Govan, £ cows .

Seems there are lots of talks planned with people who have contracts to save the 'good guys' some money but whats in it for MA or fat Sally, ? So how long does it take to review a merchandising contract ? Given they don't seem to have a pot to piss in and despite them in charge and making noises in the press the Latham's and the Parks have shelled out the cash to keep the doors open, you would think that would be their first interest, so why are they wasting their precious time reviewing contracts of loan players who are on a few grand a week, how much is the so called onerous contracts costing. You can smell the bullshit as it seems the only thing in plentiful supply from the good guys .

If he was so concerned with ZHC why not buy one share in all the companies who use them and request the same info. Would you want doorstepped by some of the individuals who support this franchise ? I hate ZHC but this is someone whose actions could incite others to break the law and potentially hurt r distress others. It's hardly their fault Sevco pissed £70million away and needed money MA is an opportunist capitalist, he offered money that no one else would loan them given they are a pheonix clumpany who in less than 3 years in existence spent £70 million ( can we just reiterate that). If Sevco supporters want to blame anyone look in the mirror they didn't ask the right questions of the likes of Chucky Green as to why they needed loans why the infrastructure was ignored, all the others who have came since haven't fixed the problems and it leads to one conclusion that in its present form of believing in Minty's Moonbeams they are fecked no matter who is in control. If Ashley took advantage of them he is at least consistent and if he wasn't able to make money from them they would go the same way as USC. The more pertinent question, yet again if you ignore you have problems you won't find solutions. Why if MA is so devisive a figure then pay him off or is it despite the bluster of the good guys the thing that Sevco needs most is £ and on the present evidence it seems in short supply.

That song is wrong on so many fronts it alienates agnostics/athiests then the presumption of importance due to an accident of birth belonging to the Saxe Coburg Gotha family did they not sing it to Edward VIII and he was a Nazi, then there is all the bits about rebellious Scots, well to adhere to the lyrics to make them relevant in contemporary society people make the effort by booing, thats loyalty in my book.

Aye so can I given the shaky history of a minority but still enough of the mindless to ORChestrate a plan of harrassment or worse. His link with FF might just be exposed by MA's lawyers and the vitriol he and the company and therefore the shareholders would/could be exposed to. The other thing which might be an issue is (despite my own personal opinion) zhc are legal and are used by more companies than SD and the contract with Sevco benefits their profits and is that not a benefit to shareholders. Then if the publicity is so bad why only the lone ranger he doesn't even have a Tonto although that is the hordes general demeanour. I think the best option for everyone ( all about problem solving, me ) Dingwall gets CG job on the board, he uses that income to fight his own legal case, Sevconians get the representation they deserve and we get endless on the journey. Now if someone has a better the floors all yours the roof and the wall are owned by MASH holdings edited because I just like the edit button

Could Dingwall not be the fans rep on the board ?

On the loanees, the player said he could still play in England and it was due to different rules in Scotland which hints at a lack of diligence on the part of Sevco but if the player was ok to play in England was the question asked anyway. We, yes lowly Morton signed Tidser in January and he was ineligible due to him already playing for different clubs, ok there were some feeble excuses but we fecked up and we are paying the player until the end of the season, so these things occur, although it was met with much amusement by others in the seaside leagues. This appears to be a non-issue being used to create another conspiracy theory. I was sceptical about the loanees but if these guys are on about £1K a week and the total quoted in some newspapers as £65K Vuckic is probably worth that given his goals and general play, the guy Streete pulled up on his first game but he must have been fit and unfortunately (depending on your perspective) suffered an injury, Given Sevco are losing around £1.5 million a month the £65k was probably worth a punt.

With pay ? Another legal challenge the wheels of justice grind very slowly, thats even if there is a case to answer but you'll still be paying a hefty sum in legal fees. That 1.5 million won't last long what happens in April and May given you have increased the wages with McCall and Black and set about more legal challenges.

What a chance for the Sevconian Family to attend the tribute act of Rangers (1873-2012) with an opportunity to attain 2nd position in the 2nd tier league in Scotland ?

Guttierez the Argentinian defender at Newcastle who was diagnosed with cancer is in the press stating he was told to find another club and he went on loan to Norwich, so it isin't exclusive to the victimhood mentality of the Sevconian Family. If it is a loan why can't they send the players back ? Does anyone think MA really has that much grip that he has the medical status of players in the Newcastle squad, did they do a medical or was this another dimension of poor management when they signed players without proper medicals. Given the business was being starved out financially was this an effort to keep them the remaining punters onside. It should also be noted they don't raise the issue of all the loanees, as Vuckic scored a few vital goals I suppose. Sevconians love the history they enjoy going back, not to keen on discussing the present or future, where's the Nomad ! When is dodgy Dave putting his hand in his pocket and not pulling out another empty sound byte.

Isin't there a 2 cheeks of the same arse section for this plastics v the recycled rangers type nonsense? This is for laughing at the continued saga of Sevco 2012. Tedi has confirmed its a different club so any relevance of a defunct club is tentative to say the least.