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23 hours ago, Ron Aldo said:
It's been a long time since I last looked at Steelmen Online but from what I recall it's full of the absolute worst of our moaning arsehole fans. We could be winning the treble and they would still find something to moan about on there.
I certainly wouldn't be referencing it in any meaningful way to highlight the feelings amongst our support which, IMO, are still largely positive.Having read back this and the match thread, you are right. My feel for the repsonse to the Celtic result is definitely being negatively influenced by sources elsewhere. Think I need to hang out here more to retain a more balanced perspective!
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21 minutes ago, Phillips455 said:
As long as we get some good results in our next 2 games, I don't think there will be too much to worry about. Target practise is a must however.
Looking at the table, it is currently split into 3 distinct groups. There is the Bottom 3 of Dundee United, Kilmarock and Ross County who have 2, 4 and 5 points respectively.
Then we have ourselves in 9th on 10 points all the way up to St Mirren in 3rd on 15. Yhe same points total seperates us from 10th and 3rd.
Finally is the two old firm teams in their own league title battle.
realistically, its a season of repairs so anything that isn't a relegation battle and possible good cup run(s) would be a decent success in my own eyes.
Let's hope we don't drop points to teams who are struggling around us again.....
For me this is it.
Imagine we had got a draw v Hearts, which is the very least we deserved on the quality of our play and chances created.
We would then be be above St Johnstone and level with Hearts and within striking distance of Hibs come the weekend.
Had KVV converted our penalty v Dundee Utd it would be another deserved 3 points and we are sitting quite nicely thank you.
Its all fine margins. I think folk are panicking as we are in the middle of a tough run of games and should we lose them all, things would start to look a little bit tricky.
However, my experience of following Motherwell for nearly 50 years is that we nearly never ever win the games we expect to and always seem to pull a result out of nowhere when you least expect it.
So we didnt get what we wanted from our last 2 home games. But Im willing to bet we get more than 0 points during this current difficult run of fixtures.
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42 minutes ago, Casagolda said:
Has there really been much of a negative reaction?
Admittedly I generally try to avoid Motherwell fans on social media, especially after a defeat but from what I have seen I haven’t really thought that to be the case. The team were even applauded off after a 0-3 defeat at Fir Park the other week and that doesn’t happen very often.
I’d say almost everyone I’ve seen or spoken to is firmly behind Hammell and haven’t seen many if any dissenting voices so far.
I think within the wider support that is definitely the case. But you only need to read some of the reponses in the Celtic game thread and on Steelmen Online to get my point. As for Twitter, deary me! I guess its maybe just a trait of human nature that people are more likely to post something when they are unhappy about something rather than when its going well. I just get frustrated that there is often no balance or understanding shown. Im not for a minute saying everything in the garden is rosy, or we couldnt very quickly find ourselves in a tricky situation if results dont improve. But give me where we are right now over "murderball" every time.
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Football fans in general are all sugar or shite. I dont know whether ours are any better or worse, but some of the reactions to our recent results are somewhat depressing.
The majority wanted to see the end to the eye bleeding, mind numbing shite we had to endure under Alexander. We have had that and some.
Its unfortunate that we took only 1 point against Dundee United and Hearts given the performance levels, the chances created and entertainment provided. But we cant be losing our shit right now when we are a work in progress.
This is a tough run of games, and yes we might slip down the table during this period. But the fixtures will even out over the season, and hopefully by the time they do our form will kick in and our important players will hit top form.
Goals are an issue right now, but we have signed Moult in that regard and he has barely been seen as yet.
Hammell is having to manage a squad not of his own making and I trust him to get it right. We just need to stay calm and show some patience.
That said, 3 points on Tuesday night would be huge and by us some time.
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Hearts 1 - 1 Rangers
Aberdeen 1 -2 Killie
Celtic 5 - 1 Motherwell
Dundee Utd 2 - 0 St Johnstone
Ross County 1 - 0 Hibs
St Mirren 0 - 1 Livvy
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I think this has the potential to be an exciting high scoring game. Both teams look more accomplished going forward with both defences having their deficiencies. However, we do have 2 of the best goalkeepers in the league on show so probably a 0-0!
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4 minutes ago, CoveRangers1922 said:
Thoughts on Max Johnston? Supposedly linked with a loan move to us.
Best position, strengths and weaknesses would be welcome.
Appreciate he's not featured much at all in the 1st team for the Well and hence reviews might be better coming from Doonhamers as he was there on loan last season.
Very promising young right back.
Not sure how well he did at QoS, but on the few occasions he got game time for us he never looked out of place.
From memory, appeared quite pacey. A lot of our support expected him to be back up to SOD this year, but then GA went out and signed Paul McGinn.
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4 hours ago, Swello said:
I think the reserve league is a fucking mess and seemed to brought back on some weird (totally misplaced) nostalgia about the old reserve league - but I think it becomes more important for us now that we have a manager that is going to play young players for longer term strategic reasons (one club stuff) not just as occasional token bench warmers.
If we use it as a defacto U-19's team - it could actually be of some benefit...
I dont know enough about whats happening with the reserve league to comment on how it has been set up.
However, I definitely think its beneficial for us to be able to get minutes for our fringe players so that they are able to make an impact when they get their opportunity.
SOD, Bevis, Cornelius, Maguire, McKinstry, Aarons Shields and Moult will all have big parts to play in our season going forward.
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42 minutes ago, gannonball said:
I doubt they are allowed to re-sell any package tbh.
Maybe not.
But if they are the highest bidder and secured exclusivety they probably dont have any interest in doing so.
Probably a bigger condemnation on the ruling bodies who failed to negotiate with them any possibility of a highlights package available to a wider audience.
Unless you actually go to the games (which this ko time hampers) then you are not going to see any League Cup football under this broadcaster.
Thats not good for the profile of the competition.
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18 minutes ago, rowsdower said:
Did premier sports get the rights to the cup by forfeit, and now they're trying to kill it? Their coverage has been horrendous.
They are only interested in the 2 live games for the uglies. They could easy have offered up a highlights package to the BBC so the rest of us could feed of the scraps as usual.
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15 minutes ago, Neil86 said:
6.15pm kick off in the quarter final v Celtic, who on earth has came up with that.
What an utterly shite kick off time for a game of football! Thanks Premier Sports!
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The difference between these players under Stevie Hammell, and the same players under GA is nothing short of astounding. I always thought that the players were better than they were being allowed to show in the previous "system", but Im not sure I was prepared for just how big and just how quickly the change could/would be made. I defended GA up to a point when he was getting results and hoped that he had a strategy in place to improve us over time, but with hindsight, it is clear that the strategy was just wrong the whole time. Regardless of results (which hopefully will come) how good is it to enjoy watching our team again?
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6 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:
Lots of 'Well fans happy with a 0-0 versus a team at the lowest of ebbs and apparently shite. Maybe that day where all your shots on goal will go in will be coming soon.
When you have watched 3 years of turgid shite any small rays of positivity are very welcome!
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An experienced player like Snodgrass who has Premiership quality could be a very useful addition to this squad. Not for a minute comparing him to Cooper, but its the kind of signing that can have impact beyond his current ability. It can raise standards and provide a leadership in the dressing room that we appear to have been missing.
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6 minutes ago, Kapowzer said:
What the P&B consensus on this? Jelly Tot or Glace Cherry?
Jelly Tot, all day long!
Doesnt everyone peel the glazed cherry off with a knife and stick it in the bin?
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1 hour ago, Busta Nut said:
Was told today Carroll is fucked and he's not even been able to collect his motor from FP.
Prey tell! What has transpired?
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5 minutes ago, welldaft said:
Sadly we are not really competing with these teams in terms of budgets.
Hearts have sold out season tickets and have guaranteed European Group stage football. OK with that.
Aberdeen have taken in £7m in transfer fees and spent about £2m. OK with that.
Hibs have a wealthy American owner who does not have a clue and seems willing to spunk millions down the drain. Hibs fans are OK with that.
United have a less wealthy owner who seems happy to throw his money at the club and incur losses year after year. Is it sustainable. Time will tell but again United fans seem OK with that.
Trust us to get Les Hutchison who was happy to loan Motherwell money
. Then walk away. To be fair he did write off some money I believe but he was an atypical frugal Scot 
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We had John Boyle.
Look how that turned out!
Happy to be a fan owned club and compete within our means.
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9 minutes ago, Lobby Dossar said:
Not so sure that he was the coach … … He was head of the academy which involves a lot more than coaching.
Yes. Maybe a bad choice of words on my part trying to get my point across. Being Academy Director would undoubtedly bring experience of many transferrable skills. Coaching players being just one of them.
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1 minute ago, welldaft said:
VERY much so. Easy for someone to come into a job and besmirch the previous incumbent and that happens all too often.
But it does not strike me like this would be in Hammells nature to do so. So I find it quite telling that he is clearly stating the squad needs tweaking. The squad needs to be fitter. The team needs to be better in and out of possession and try and play more forward passes. Lets be honest every fan that was at the Sligo games would have come to the very same conclusion.
Appointing Hammell may well be seen as more risky as oppose to say a more experienced Manager. I believe that too. But he is saying the right things that I want to hear. And if we win again today then he makes his case even stronger.
I think the positive thing for most supporters is that he has identified all the things the fans have been shouting about for some time and is showing an appetite to fix them. That might not make him manager of the year, but it shows he isnt just some rookie without a clue. He has been involved in professional football for over 20 years, and been a youth team coach for the last 4, so he does have some experience behind him.
Its a bit like the argument with players. Do we sign an experienced journeyman manager who is never gonna be better than average, or do we go with a young inexperienced one whose potential is far greater but somewhat of a risk?
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Wow! Have 2 sets of supporters ever gone into a game with such low expectations?
I suppose the only positive from a Motherwell perspective is that we ditched the manager and somehow managed to smuggle 3 points out of Paisley last week.
I like the fact that this fixture has never finished 0-0 at Fir Park.
So for that reason Im gonna predict 0-0!
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If I was a St Mirren fan, Id get my mortgage on you to win on Sunday. A Motherwell team playing as bad as we currently are, with a disconnect between the manager players and fans as bad as it has been in years, coming up against an ex manager and half a dozen ex players? Ive seen that movie too!
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5 hours ago, IrishBhoy said:
Thanks for that result earlier Motherwell. I’ve got family over in Ireland giving me no end of abuse now, after years of me telling them St Mirren would win the Irish League at a canter.
All kidding aside that’s a really poor result, the home tie especially with the Motherwell fans turning out in excellent numbers to support the team. It would be too reactionary to call it anything other than an upset though, and I don’t think it will have too much bearing on how Motherwells season pans out. For all the good results we’ve had in Europe like St Johnstone beating Rosenborg or Aberdeen beating Groningen, there’s always been results like Hearts getting beat by Birkirkara or Kilmarnock getting embarrassed by Connahs Quay.
I’m sure we will have to endure our footballing media, as well as OF fans on Twitter, coming out with tropes that we are ‘the laughing stock of Europe’ or such nonsense over this result, when in reality nobody in Europe particularly gives a f**k about a Conference League qualifying match. Always makes me laugh when I hear things like that, as if football fans in France, Spain or Germany are sitting with their friends saying things like ‘Scottish football must be shite btw, Motherwell just got beat off Sligo Rovers’.
I take your point to an extent.
However, its not reactionary from most Motherwell fans. Its the culmination of watching 18 months of eye bleedingly bad football and 7 months of rank rotten results.
These 2 games were just the straw that broke the camels back.
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Making the assumption that there is absolutely no chance that GA changes away from 4-3-3, Id be going with....
Kelly
Mugabi Sol Ojala Lamie
Shaw Slattery O'Hara
Woolery KVV Efford/Roberts
Id love to see Tierney in as I think he would take passes from Slattery and be a good foil for KVV linking the midfield and frontline, but he doesnt fit a 4-3-3 and I dont see GA changing it.
Need a big performance from the manager and all the players or this is going to be another dreary shitfest with us losing by the odd goal.
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1. Celtic
2. Rangers
3. Hearts
4. Motherwell
5. Aberdeen
6. Dundee United
7. Hibs
8. St Mirren
9. Livingston
10. St Johnstone
11. Ross County
12. Dundee
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Motherwell FC - A Thread For All Seasons
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Kettlewell seems like a good appointment. Surprised its the lead coach job he has got. Makes you wonder who is going to get the Academy Director role.......