Toby

Pretty sure I remember him describing himself on social media as something along the lines of "part time 'baller, full time rocker". He was more interested in his music than his football, which I suppose is fair enough until he's taking a wage off the club you support and he's not bothering his hoop. This lot that we've got at the moment might not be the most gifted, but chancers like Shimmin make me thankful for them. One of those I'm delighted will never darken our door again.

Scottish Premiership Pittodrie Stadium- Aberdeen Celtic Park- Celtic Dens Park- Dundee Tannadice Park- Dundee United New Douglas Park- Hamilton Tynecastle Park- Hearts Caledonian Stadium- Inverness Rugby Park- Kilmarnock Fir Park-Motherwell Firhill- Partick Thistle Victoria Park- Ross County McDiarmid Park- St. Johnstone Championship Recreation Park- Alloa The Rock- Dumbarton Falkirk Council Stadium- Falkirk Easter Road- Hibernian Almondvale- Livingston Cappielow Park- Morton Palmerston Park- Queen of the South Stark's Park- Raith Rovers Ibrox Stadium- Rangers, Rangers II (New) St. Mirren Park- St. Mirren League One New Broomfield- Airdrieonians, Airdrie United/Airdrieonians II Cliftonhill Stadium- Albion Rovers Somerset Park- Ayr United Glebe Park- Brechin City Central Park- Cowdenbeath East End Park- Dunfermline Athletic Station Park- Forfar Athletic Balmoor Stadium- Peterhead Ochilview Park- Stenhousemuir, East Stirlingshire Stair Park- Stranraer League Two Galabank- Annan Gayfield Park- Arbroath Shielfield Park- Berwick Rangers Broadwood Stadium- Clyde, Cumbernauld Colts New Bayview Park- East Fife Borough Briggs- Elgin City Links Park- Montrose Hampden Park- Queen's Park, Scotland Forthbank Stadium- Stirling Albion, Stirling University Defunct League Grounds Shawfield Stadium- Clyde (Not seen a game) Kilbowie Park- Clydebank Boghead Park- Dumbarton Brockville Park- Falkirk (Old) St. Mirren Park- St. Mirren Cathkin Park- Third Lanark (Not seen a game) Highland League Dudgeon Park- Brora Rangers Victoria Park- Buckie Thistle Grant Street Park- Clachnacuddin Princess Royal Park- Deveronvale Claggan Park- Fort William Kynoch Park- Keith Grant Park- Lossiemouth The Haughs- Turriff United Lowland League K-Park Training Academy- East Kilbride Raydale Park- Gretna, Gretna 2008 Ainslie Park- Spartans Meadow Park- Threave Rovers Junior Dunterlie Park- Arthurlie Beechwood Park- Auchinleck Talbot Bellsdale Park- Beith Somervell Park- Cambuslang Rangers The Showpark- East Kilbride Thistle Ravenscraig Stadium- Greenock Barrfields Park- Largs Thistle Lochburn Park- Maryhill, BSC Glasgow Brig O'Lea Stadium- Neilston Newlandsfield Park- Pollok Hannah Park- Shotts Bon Accord Fullarton Park- Vale of Clyde Millburn Park- Vale of Leven Defunct Non-League Grounds Tinto Park- Benburb Allan Park- Cove Rangers Adamslie Park- Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Old Southcroft Park- Rutherglen Glencairn Other Scottish Grounds Kintyre Park- Campbeltown HSFP Lesser Hampden English Premier League Emirates Stadium- Arsenal Goodison Park- Everton Anfield- Liverpool St. James' Park- Newcastle United Championship Macron Stadium- Bolton Wanderers Cardiff City Stadium- Cardiff City, Wales Craven Cottage- Fulham Elland Road- Leeds United City Ground- Nottingham Forest Deepdale- Preston North End New York Stadium- Rotherham United Hillsborough- Sheffield Wednesday League One Bloomfield Road- Blackpool Alexandra Stadium- Crewe Alexandra Bramall Lane- Sheffield United League Two Brunton Park- Carlisle United Globe Arena- Morecambe English Non-League Moss Lane- Altrincham Holker Street- Barrow Croft Park- Blyth Spartans Esh Group Stadium- Durham City Gateshead International Stadium- Gateshead Victoria Stadium- Northwich Victoria Ironworks Road- Tow Law Town Wincham Park- Witton Albion Defunct English/Welsh Grounds Dean Court- AFC Bournemouth Ninian Park- Cardiff City Filbert Street- Leicester City Christie Park- Morecambe Europe Amsterdam ArenA- Ajax, Netherlands Nou Camp- Barcelona (Not seen a game) Stadio Comunale San Nicola- Bari 1908, Italy Stade Roi Baudouin- Belgium Signal-Iduna Park- Borussia Dortmund, Germany Stadion Rote Erde- Borussia Dortmund II (Not seen a game) Boris Piachadze Dinamo Arena- Dinamo Tbilisi, Georgia Stadion Maksimir- Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia Wembley Stadium- England S.Dariaus ir S. Gireno Stadionas- FBK Kaunas, Lithuania Estadio Jose Rico Perez- Hercules, Spain SRC Bonifika- Koper, Slovenia Stade Josy Barthel- Luxembourg Parc des Princes- Paris St. Germain, France Stadion Narodowy- Poland Bislett Stadion- Skeid Oslo Eden Arena- Slavia Prague, Czech Republic Generali Arena- Sparta Prague, Czech Republic Richmond Park- St. Patrick's Athletic Rasunda Stadion- Sweden Rheinpark Stadion- Vaduz, Liechtenstein Ullevaal Stadion- Valerenga, Norway Stadion Karadorde- Vojvodina, Serbia Millennium Stadium- Wales

There's also been Albion Rovers' new terrace, which opened at the weekend there.

Did Liverpool not buy up a lot of the properties and leave them to rot though, as a result dragging the value of those inhabited properties down with them as the area degenerated?

Going to St. Patrick's Athletic v Limerick the night before the Ireland v Scotland game next month. Often go to Sheffield United and our mates down there are also friendly with a group of St. Pats fans. The St. Pats fans joined some of them at our games at home to Stenhousemuir and away to Stranraer at the end of the season so would be rude not to go to their game when we're in town. Quite looking forward to getting to a game in Dublin at somewhere other than the Aviva.

Sol Campbell.

John Bishop. Utter, utter bell end.

Surely this is exactly the sort of post that the phrase "scrambling for relevance" was designed for? Clyde .

Pretty sure we've been over this before, but let's be honest, this simply isn't true, is it? If you take a look at page 105 of this thread, immediately after winning the Renfrewshire Cup, three Morton supporting posters commented on our win, with a picture of a tweet from Dougie Imrie and comments that it was infact a great feeling at Cappielow before you stuck your beak in with; There was nobody claiming we'd win the league, merely fans enjoying a rare victory against our local rivals, and a victory we were entitled to enjoy in the eyes of I'd suggest everyone other than yourself. Certainly the origins of this thread came back to bite Foxbarton when we collapsed after a promising start in the late summer of 2011, but claiming the fans were again getting carried away when they dared express how happy they were at winning a local derby smacks of someone looking to pick faults in a group of supporters that he clearly has little time for, and is complete nonsense with no foundation. http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/156756-a-great-feeling-at-cappielow/page-105

Aye, he posts (very rarely) as delboy66 on the Morton forum. Met him a couple of times and he isn't the sharpest tool in the box, but a decent enough guy. He posted regularly for a wee while on our forum a few years back and it didn't generally work out too well for him, but nothing ever backfired as spectacularly as this thread of course. He's a barman in a St. Mirren pub in Paisley so is probably used to getting torn to pieces about Morton- nice of him to just disappear though and leave the rest of us with his mess on a more public platform.

That wasn't funny the first time you posted it.

Sort of makes it that wee bit more humiliating for you .

Cheers Gaz, well played .

What people? I certainly don't recall going a bit mental a your trolling attempt. I have however challenged them and posted some honest views that haven't been to your liking. Do you expect to be able to take the piss out of folk and for it to be unchallenged?

Na, GazFFC is a troll who deliberately tries to get a rise out of us. He usually fails but at least doesn't get too upset about anything Morton-related. Monkey Tennis on the other hand is genuinely upset that we don't care about him, and pounces on the Morton fans' posts as they genuinely infuriate him. Look at the three posts on this thread between full time on Saturday and his post. Nothing to write home about but he couldn't help but jump in feet first, such was the seethe at a good result for Morton in a game that mattered to the fans. I'd say there's more of a likeness between him and the Raith fan Andy C, another who absolutely despises the Morton fans on here to the extent that you feel it adversely affects his everyday life.

Why would I be deliberately trying to wind you up about this? The best part of Palmerston in my opinion is the big terrace behind the goal. I'd love to be able to watch the matches from there when we visit. But unfortunately, Queens have allocated that to their own support. Quite rightly so, they're the ones who's money is coming in regularly, not mine. In the same breath, when the fence was up in the Cowshed, a quarter of the pitch was obscured by the fence if you watched the games from the back around the half way line. Now my view is almost completely unobscured. What business in the right mind would provide a poorer procuct or service to their most loyal customers merely to appease infrequent visitors who are merely visiting as loyal followers of a direct competitor? Fantastic. For someone who was telling us the other day he doesn't despise people for supporting other teams, the seethe is absolutely oozing out of you. We've just beaten our biggest rivals for the first time in 8 years, of course we're bloody happy about it. The post you quoted was merely a Morton fan saying the was a great feeling at Cappielow, not predicting we'd win the league. Can I ask, at what point are people allowed to be happy about the success of their teams? I'd suggest your absolute hatred for Morton is clouding your judgement here, but having read your 27 (twenty seven) post contribution to the debate about squad numbers, I'm pretty sure the Morton fans aren't the real problem in your tiny mixed up little head.

Sack that. The Cowshed is great as it is now and in the days we did have the fence it obstructed the view of the Morton fans. Okay, there are still pillars, but they aren't a big issue for anyone who stands in the shed. No reason to compromise the pleasure of the home support just to appease any visitors to Cappielow.

Well, no, that's not really good enough. I'm aware of one particular steward that does the away end at Cappielow who's a prize bell end and should be punted. If you're going to complain about what's wrong about how away fans are treated at Cappielow and expect us to apologise or do something about it, surely the treatment of away fans at your own ground is of concern to you if we're going to be consistent?

The desire to tell folk how little we care comes as a direct result of supporters of other clubs continuously going on about how much they hate Cappielow. What are you actually seeking to achieve? Sympathy? Apologies? Us to lobby the club about something we've also been subject to in low key friendlies when our own fans' complaints have fallen on deaf ears? There comes a point that if you hate something that much you have to take decisive action. Moaning on Pie and Bovril isn't decisive action though. I know the stewards at Firhill are tadgers, I know the stand at Dundee is crap, I know the view at Cowdenbeath is grim, I know the catering at Livingston is overpriced, I know I'm not welcome in the bar at Falkirk and I know that the atmosphere at Raith is terrible. However, I don't feel the need to constantly troll the threads of those clubs fans seeking sympathy from them for my ordeal. I've got the choice of whether to go or not and choose to go. That's my choice and if I want to go to these places and am not happy I know that I made the conscious decision to be treated poorly. The decisive action I take is by refusing to give anymore money than is absolutely necessary. If you're unhappy, as you certainly appear to be, then feel free to either complain to Morton, limit your spending at Cappielow or boycott. Regardless of how much you want us to miss you, only a mass boycott will affect our club so we won't really care about it any more than we care about how much an Annan fans hates going to Albion Rovers.

You're not my customer Gaz. You pay your money to my favourite football club, as I do to your's. What money you give to the Norseman is as inconsequential to me as what I put into BTW is to you. I made the point a couple of years ago that on going to The Falkirk Council Stadium bar (I think with vikingTON) and asking if we could go in for a pint we were told "fiver". Now, it turns out that you get a pint and a pie for your fiver, but this information wasn't relayed to either of us by what appeared to be a pretty dismissive steward. Costing Falkirk a tenner of our money of course. Is this a really good way of treating customers? Or is it a case that as long as we pay our money into the game you don't see much of us anyway so there's really not much need to be nice to us? No, it's kinda the real world. I care about my friends and family. I don't even care about the vast majority of the Morton support and nor do they care about me. Why would I care about you, and how does being honest about my priorities in life make me feel macho?

No, let's open that box. Goalkeepers used to be able to pick up pass backs. Players used to be offside when in line with the last defender. Those were the rules at the time and were to be adhered to. Falkirk didn't adhere to them and as a result didn't go up. The rules have since been changed. Had those rules not been changed, Falkirk still wouldn't have a stadium suitable for the SPL as the Falkirk Council Stadium doesn't meet the original criteria of having 10,000 covered seats. Do you want to just take some bits of the original rules to suit your argument or are we going to go the whole hog and go with all of the rules?

I don't remember saying I despised you, feel free to point out where I did. However, I don't care about you. If I read a story in the paper about someone's misfortune, my usual response is along the lines of "Oh, that's a shame". Then I get on with the rest of my life. I've already stated that in an ideal world away fans would be in a better section of Cappielow, but we don't live in an ideal world. I'm afraid if it comes down to a decision between paying Faoud Bachirou's wages or giving a few guys with rattles a bit more leg room then you are much further down my list of priorities. As would be the case if the shoe were on the other foot.

Oh, come on Gaz- you hate Morton and you hate the Morton fans. Added to that you're an internet troll. Think I've seen goes at Dundee and Livingston from you this week at least. You make the point about the Morton fans moaning their tits off to the relevant people. It doesn't really affect us. The Cowshed is a good place to watch football, so it's very much a case for us of "I'm alright, Jack". I've told you before that I'm a shareholder at Morton and have, a number of times at AGMs brought up my grievances on other issues that do get on my goat i.e. the online merchandising, which as an out of town fan gets right on my tits. It's fallen on deaf ears, and is arguably costing the club as much money as a cramped away end. In an ideal world you would be in a comfortable away end but like every club, we have to weigh up the costs against the benefits. Incidentally, if you get a wee look at this thread- http://www.greenockmorton.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=40914- on the Morton forum, I'm pretty consistent about my views on the stand and of our own fans making the sacrafice when costs overrule the benefits of opening the Cowshed for ourselves. Of course if we were to build the stand at the WDE more away fans would likely come, but how many really? It would be years, if not a generation before it was worthwhile. I mentioned the lack of help from the local council, something Falkirk benefitted from. We're losing money hand over fist, something you have been quick to point out in the past and something has to give. With little need to do the ground up when we've not looked like going up to the top tier apart from a spell last season, how much away fans enjoy Cappielow is much further down our list of priorities than seeing a good team on the park. There's really nothing juvenile about it. Do you really care about me? Really? My priority's Morton, not Queen of the South of Falkirk. There are things about away grounds I hate, such as the main stand and prices at Dundee, the stewarding at Partick Thistle and entrance fee into the bar at Falkirk. However, I know those clubs don't care about me and the other Morton fans so won't change their policies. Therefore, I don't give them any more money than is absolutely necessary. I'm sure BTW is far better than the Falkirk social club anyway. The fans of these clubs aren't going to listen to my concerns, nor are the clubs. I'm not worth enough to them for the sake of spending an extra £6 or so over the course of a season. I don't believe for a second you have any concern about how the Morton fans enjoy their trips to Palmerston, in much the same way that it's of little interest to me if you're uncomfortable for 3 hours a year.

Have you ever actually brought this up with Morton, rather than whining about it on here? Most of us spend our Saturdays at Cappielow in the Cowshed and couldn't really care less how cramped the stand is for you, regardless of whether it's costing the club money or not. It strikes me that rather than actually addressing the issue with those that matter, you prefer to troll the Morton fans on here in yet another attempt to besmirch the club. We've got absolutely no say in the club's segregation policies, so all you're doing is making noise for the sake of it. info@gmfc.net if you're interested Gaz.

If only local councils spent money on football stadia rather than trivial things such as hospitals and schools then we might be in a better position....