RedRob72
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The unionists on this site trying to hijack the debate and detract from May’s complete shambles.
She has nowhere to turn, each and every single compromise (and compromise is what is required irrespective of being a supporter of Brexit or not) has been roundly rejected.
The same tired ‘solutions’ and counter arguments are trotted out repeatedly.
Stay in the Single Market/Customs Union = It’s goes against the result of the vote
Offer a 2nd vote ‘People’s Vote’ = It goes against the democratic vote and will of the people
Have an open border in Northern Ireland = It separates NI from the rest of the U.K.
Break with No Deal = A suicidal option
Just simply postpone Article 50 and stay in the EU for the time being = Again it doesn’t deliver upon what people voted for, ‘Leave Means Leave’
etc..etc.. it goes on and on.
At some point a negotiated compromise has to emerge however unpalatable certain elements may be to those on all sides of the debate. The only real certainty to come of this whole mess was the complexity of the terms of exit. It is impossible to please everyone.
May didn’t want this, and she’s clearly struggled and stumbled throughout.
At least she’s stuck it out though and not simply thrown in the towel to join the shameless band of opportunists who have left the scene previously without any responsibility or consideration as to the consequences of their selfish actions.
She doesn’t have a strong hand at the table but It’s the only one she can play.
With only a few months left to work with, and a huge amount of detail still to resolve, if we accept that we ARE leaving the EU, Parliament should endorse this proposal. The remaining time left before our departure should be spent in fine tuning the agreement to the best possible acceptance of both sides. Leaving the EU was never going to be easy, but it serves neither party to arrive in March still undecided, splintered and fragmented as a Union.
And until someone decides otherwise, (whether in Edinburgh, Belfast or elsewhere) for the time being it is a Union we are.
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Yoons have been flushed out this morning. Fucking terrified. Pleasing.
Get it on Nicola.
She ain’t getting any help from Blackford at WM, that’s for sure. He couldnae hit a cow’s arse with a banjo! Inept and thoroughly useless.
His pettiness is almost childlike.0 -
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Dodds has some f*ckin nerve accusing others of putting the future of the Union at risk. It is the committed Brexiteers who will be ultimately responsible for its inevitable break up, without a compromised EU deal.
He even congratulated them for their ‘honourable actions’ of resignation.0 -
Blackford storming it [emoji41]
You’re kidding right!? His analysis & response delivered nothing but the soundbites of pre Sept 14.
Even Corbyn managed to at least land a couple of decent blows in deconstructing the proposed deal. Blustering Blackford is an ineffectual as he is insignificant in leading the SNP at Westminster. Long may it continue, a f*ckin weasel of a man.-4 -
Remember when May said no deal is better than a bad deal?
Remember the people who actually agreed with her!? Surely there can only be a dwindling few at Westminster who are still clinging on to this madness.
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Similar to Wales then (but in Welsh obviously).
Nah the comparison is almost a fifth of the population people of Wales regularly speaking/using the Welsh Language with less than 0.3% of the population of Northern Ireland *speaking the Irish Language.
That’s some considerable difference.
(*Actually using the language on a day to day basis, not just the ability to speak it or have a limited command of it).
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Respect
Which it struggles to achieve out with it’s own support and not just within the circles of the DUP, but across the political spectrum both North & South of the Border.
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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/alex-salmond-sex-rap-case-13579979.ampLink?Doesn’t really offer much, but sure it won’t be the last ‘story’ to emerge before his judicial review (opposing the SG) begins in January.
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he regularly fucks off for an hour without saying a word in the morning and comes back with a haircut.
He's disliked by everyone in the office and is basically a fat, bald, lazy old cunt.
How does he f**k aff for a hair cut if he’s a baldy c*nt!?
Is it some sort of carefully crafted comb-over!?
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The lads at fives who are just going to turn up the odd week and kick anything that moves. Plenty of effort and enthusiasm in 30 mins mind, charging from one box to another but will touch the ball very little (and when they do, will stumble over as the ball gets trapped between their feet). Frustration boils over quite early, and they’ll end up taking someone out from behind, putting their opponent off work for two weeks. Seen it countless times down the years. Stay at home lads and choose something else to do.
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I wouldn’t oppose it but I would remain neutral unless Scotland’s voice was to be respected in it. If it’s to be another case of the UK treating its nations as one, with no recognition of the needs or wants of its constituent countries (which in reality means England, where the population is largest, decides) then I see no point in supporting it or rejecting it, or lending it legitimacy at all.
But the question of when and how it might impact a successful second independence referendum doesn’t deserve house room.
But presumably it would become legitimate if it endorsed a reversal of 2016 result?0 -
It's about Brexit, Hungary, Poland, Austria, and the right in France and Germany etc. as well as Trump.
...and Scotland?0 -
Good few mentions for Glasgow tonight with regards to knife crime. Guess we have to count our blessings eh!? Jeez![emoji53]
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Well Brexit and it's disastrous impact hasn't actually happened yet. When it starts to becomes a reality to the voters then people will need to make up their minds on what kind of Scotland they want for themselves and their children.
Do you believe Brexit will be a good thing for the Union?
Sure I’ve posted before, that a hard Brexit will be a surefire way of eventually breaking the Union for good, and the Tory backbenchers who seem hell bent on leaving the EU with or without a deal, will be wholly responsible. Ironic given that they purport to be the bastions of unity across these islands. I’m certain that dragging both Scotland and Northern Ireland out of Europe will only accelerate this.0 -
Polls like the above don't include EU voters or 15 - 17 yos who'll have a vote when the time comes. Don't you agree that EU residents are likely to vote, massively, in favour of I-Scot in the EU and that young voters tend to favour Indy?
Hmm, I can’t see EU residents being granted a vote in any future 2nd Ref once Brexit is signed and sealed. Granted, the core of younger voters will support Independence however.
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There has just been a 6-all draw on PopMaster. The morons then only managed to get 1 tiebreak question out of 4 correct between them, and the "winner" didn't even bother attempting to guess in the 3 in 10.
I'm fucking seething at this.
Listening to that this morning on the way down M6, jeez that was absolutely pish, I’m no scholar but that that pair were woeful! The chap from Cornwall even claimed that 6 was a decent score for him! Why bother ringing in!? At least the guy from Aberdeen was heading down the pub for the afternoon with his wee dug Charlie! [emoji846]0 -
Because it was moving our way. We came from the low 20's to the mid 40's.
Now polls showing 45 to 50 plus.
Surely you can see where this is going?
Given the absolute mess that Westminster is in at present, particularly with regards to Brexit (plus a clear remain majority in Scotland), wouldn’t you expect a massive surge towards indyref2 and a Yes vote.
It doesn’t appear to be the case just yet, seriously why is that?0 -
The get to call it "The Fountain".
They don't get to tell the rest of the city what they've to call the city.
I can't understand what's motivating people to disagree with me here.
If that’s your understanding of the West Bank mate, then I’m out.0 -
Jeremy Paxman’s (like him or not), ‘Great Britain’s War’ is a thoughtful and rewarding read.0 -
And I thought I was arrogant.
Do the people who live in a place not get to decide what it's called?
Hmmmm, try asking the inhabitants of the Fountain perhaps?1 -
Has anyone raised the point yet that Earl Haig was a horrible fucker?
Reported for Sectarianism!0 -
Did you have to google the spelling of Passchendaele? (I did).
Yep, and it still doesn’t look right to me somehow!?1 -
This is the bit that gets me. Where are these conversations taking place? Unless either side engages on line or in person to debate the point. I have been to work, out to the pub, had an overnight away last night, been out walking. No-one has mentioned poppies. It's only an issue for the polarised tubes on either side.
Maybe the time spent on P&B (for many of us) influences the perception that this is an issue that is now out of control, when in reality most folk are just getting on with their lives. Some observe this time of year by wearing a simple poppy and some don’t, both without malice though.
If you want to recreate Passchendaele on your front lawn, good for you, it requires no thought or effort from me. Likewise if you want to rant and rave about Britain’s murderous colonial past, go ahead, knock yerself out!1 -
Downloaded Paul Weller’s new album, True Meanings on recommendation . There’s much of his work that I’ve really enjoyed down the years, from The Jam, through the Style Council years and into his solo career. Not this latest effort though. It’s one miserable, depressing dirge from first track to the last. ‘Soul Searchers’ isn’t too bad I suppose, but the rest is mournful, self indulgent pish!
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Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.
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I’m not suggesting I’m against that personally, you understand? I’d be happy with a 2nd vote with a much clearer picture to consider (in terms of the consequences of leaving) than two years ago. There is also clearly a demand for this option.
The opposition to a 2nd vote on the grounds that the country has already decided by a recognisable majority, is equally as strong for many of the electorate however. We’re quickly at stalemate on this one.
Isn’t going to happen and therefore cannot be considered a serious solution as we approach March 2019.