Rudolph Hucker

Oh well, my apologies if I've misjudged you. I take it this WAS you the last time the Plastic came to Cappielow?

So why don’t you, then?? Any time your lot come to ours their “sartorial elegance” seems to be pretty similar to THIS affront to all that’s decent

Ahh yes, the Dedicated Followers of Fashion....... For so many of you lot it's more about the fashion than the fitba'. As you rarely fail to confirm.

what’s wrong, mate? Did yer maw iron a centre crease into your ripped denims or something?? Disaster…….

ffs. y’know, I’m almost embarrassed for you guys posting on here…….. almost. you do realise it’s only fitba’, right? It’s nothing important? I wonder who will enjoy next season more - Morton fans in a competitive chase for the championship or a playoff place, or you lot seeing your team get humped every other week………. C’mon, it’s only a year ago; you must remember how miserable you felt. Well, for one more year only, it’s yours all over again. And the bonus for ALL the Championship clubs is that we don’t have to suffer some of the worst posters of this season, unless any of us choose to visit you on a point-and-laugh basis (personally I won’t be going near you, I’m just glad to see the division get shot of you arseholes. Nae offence, like!) Enjoy yer moment, guys - it sure as hell ain’t gonna last. oh, almost forgot - thank you.

^^^. Classy comment. ^^^ Class-FREE comment.

SHOULD be strong enough to see off Cove…….. we’ll see. Shame Oakley misses out, but that assist for the winner against QP was a great way to sign off for the season.

I know. I said so umpteen posts ago....... ...... unfortunately Bluebottle there just wouldn't let it lie........

Too long, probably way too boring and irrelevant, so didn't read. I asked a question, you answered it despite trying to deflect from it like mad, so I'm happy. Thank you. Must be hard to type, when all you really want to do is put your hands on your hips and stamp your little feet......

*sigh*……. Who owns Golden Casket? Who owned Greenock Morton Football Club? Who owned Cappielow Park? And how can any person or company “nick” something they already own? That last one’s rhetorical since you’ve already covered it in your previous post. Now, stop hurling abuse at me, funny as it is - stick to self-abuse, I don’t doubt you’re better at that.

The old "apples and oranges" comparison, eh.... Twenty years ago we had a new owner who for years after appeared to be shovelling six-figure sums into the club each year as an act of benevolence. It's only in the last few years that it transpired that there were strings attached. Since you were only, what, about 12 when Rae took over you're judging what happened then purely on hearsay, gossip and the hindsight of others, and you're reaching harsh conclusions about the support based on that. It's your old "tell 'em something like you're speaking with absolute certainty and they're bound to swallow it" routine, otherwise known as the "mouth on a stick" method. The second half of that mouth music post amounts to this: your tacit admission that, no, the Raes were not trying to "nick" anything, they were seeking to retain ownership of an asset. Thanx for that. I'd suggest we all get back on track now on this thread, hoping for a Morton win tonight and that other results go our way to give us a playoff place. Some hope, eh?

No contradiction at all. I explained a bit of the history behind what happened at the club leading up to Rae taking over. Look at the original point that I queried - it was someone saying they would never approve of clubs being sugar-daddied. I pointed out that after the club was stabilised post-Scott there's no doubt that Rae continued to put additional money into the club in order to improve the league position. I asked if he could accept the fact that it happened at Morton too. He's yet to answer. You're looking at the past with 20:20 hindsight vision and yet you still have to apply revisionism. Let me ask you again - in the face of owners who either owned the club outright or owned by far the majority of the shares what more do you think the fans could have done? And under Rae's ownership what more could they have done that wouldn't have risked what appeared at the time to be money "gifted" to the club being brought to a sudden stop, as eventually happened after Douglas Rae passed away? Re the bit in bold - I've asked this question before when this has been raised and never had a sensible answer - how can anyone "nick' what they already own?? That is not a question asked in support of the Raes, it is simply a recognition of the fact that they did actually own the ground as much as they owned the club itself. They tried to retain it as part of the deal being negotiated and eventually, thankfully, they folded but to assert they tried to "nick" something they already owned is simply disingenuou on your part.

And what, oh wise one, were the “older fans” supposed to do about it? Wilson sold to Scott, who proceeded to, as you accurately say, run the club into the ground. Apart from the many fan protests about what he was doing, and drawing public attention to it, and boycotting some games, and raising money to keep the club going, what more would you have expected from the support? Scott left a club that was on its uppers and Rae came in. Compared to what he took over, the only way he could take the club was up. Yes, money was wasted in many ways, Rae was too autocratic and the running of the club behind the scenes was never great, but honestly, “running the club into the ground” is a complete nonsense and you should be ashamed of yourself. And, since he was the owner and appeared to be investing substantially in the club - it was only after a few years that the “IOU” scenario came to light - again I’d like you to tell us what you think the “older fans” should have done about it? Bearing in mind that you and others of your age would be considered equally culpable by then??

Oh, you read it all right.

you’re missing the point - unsurprisingly. The success or failure of any financial doping is not the issue. It’s the fact that it took place at all. There’s no doubt that Rae’s money could have been better used, which might have led to the team doing better on the pitch and in league placings. On the other hand, whether badly managed or not, a lot of that initial cash went into restoring Cappielow to a serviceable state and getting the appropriate safety certifications after the disastrous Hugh effing Scott tenure. You can only spend each pound once, so restoring the neglected stand and brutalised Cowshed and getting the pitch back in order after the knee-high, weed-infested mess that Scott left would have meant not much was left to build a team in the early part of Rae’s tenure. Getting back to your post, though - mismanaged or not (and we all know it was), without that financial input Morton’s “natural level” would have been being consigned to the history books alongside Third Lanark as a result of the almost terminal damage that Scott inflicted. “League One and Championship relegation battles” are infinitely preferable to not having a club to support. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, and your post was either ignorant of the facts or hypocritical. It’s a bit harsh calling yourself an idiot though.

hmmm….. Did that include Morton in your view when Douglas Rae was subbing us to the tune of a couple of hundred thousand quid per season?

why? They’ve not been on our radar for long enough to merit that sort of dislike IMO. if it’s because of Hartley I suppose I get it, his comments about result fixing when in charge of that lot at Dundee were totally out of order, but Cove Rangers* as a club mean as little to me as do most other clubs, except when we’re playing them. * apart from the name, obviously.

....... unless he's just trying to protect his own job?? Always a possibility....... He ain't half one-sided though, to put it mildly.

Would all Dundee FC fans please note that they have now fully used their allocated posts on this thread. Thank you.

??? where’s the fun in that???

You’re lucky……. If we win we’ll be delighted to have taken 10 points from 12 against those charlatans, but that’ll be mightily soured by the fact that it’ll probably have handed you the title on a plate. You’d only have had the boak for five days - we’d have it for longer than that……… so….. c’mon the Cove (just this once!)!

”meaningless”, you say?? Apparently not to you……….. I’ve some nice fresh grapes here if you want ‘em - yours seem remarkably sour.

Fine by me!

See what I mean? Feckin' playground stuff.

fuxake, what a seething, foaming mess some of you guys get yer selves intae over a game of fitba’. Embarrassing. Those above are just a few examples of why I feel like wiping my feet whenever I leave a Dundee match thread. You’ve a few half-decent posters, well, sometimes, but too many have that weird Billy BigBaws delusional mentality that actually just comes over like they’ve just left the primary school playground.. If you do go up, not many on here will miss you. Unfortunately you’d be back down here soon enough - as much incentive as anyone needs to try and get promoted next year……. ps - Thank you.