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37 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said:
If its Scott Burns writing it, I'd believe it. Not heard him get one wrong about United yet. Been first to a good few signings for us.
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34 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said:
Done well at the penalties but Siegrist pulled off some cracking saves over the play offs.The save in the 2nd half of the first leg of the final was something else, had absolutely no right to get anything on it. He was United's player of the playoffs for me.
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Not seen any mention on here, but seen on an other forum we've enquired about Stevie May & a player from Hearts. No name for the Hearts player.
Not sure whether there is much in this but the poster has a bit of a track record with correct info in the past.
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49 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:
If I am wrong I will be delighted to admit it. Let's wait and see.
Neilson is going no where. Ogren and Ashgar have both stated Neilson will be here next season. At Q&A Ogren stated when being asked about his plans, un prompted l, said "in Robbie we have one of the best young coaches in Scotland and is a part of our plans" or something similar.
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1 hour ago, Dele said:
Looked it up, never knew it as that.
G - Force!
By Christ I fucking hated that cartoon.
And now some DAB has it as his avatar, hate to think how much you hate it now!
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3 minutes ago, Dele said:
Evening. What's your avatar? My big brother used to watch it religiously and I hated it.
I'm now hating it more as it's name escapes me.
It's from Battle of the Planets. Been introducing my young lad to it, amongst other shows I used to watch as a child, and he loves it.
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Same here. Happening on Chrome on Android. Switching to Duck Duck Go is fine
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1 hour ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said:
I wouldn't get too cocky. The playoff games were up there with some of the poorest this season. But then again who's to say we won't shitfest it next season.
That said we're talking about the two Dundee clubs, can you ever be confident, truely, in either of them performing these days?
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39 minutes ago, Dirty Arab 83 said:
I still think Sow is a prospect, he was thrown in unfit due to other players injuries, given a good pre season I think he will do the business
As I've said can see a player there. But he hasn't been properly fit for goodness knows how long. His pace has gone, we can clearly see that, but the ability you can see in flashes. It can't be doing his confidence much help playing while unfit though, same for Pawlett. Get them fit then play them. Until then play those that are fit and showing form.
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18 hours ago, ArabFC said:
Squad-wise, we need ANOTHER overhaul.
There won't be. At Q&A Neilson stated he wanted 5 players, "could be 4, could be 6 depends on budget, but I want 5".
Mark Ogren, I think it was , said the investment in January was to avoid having start again and gel a brand new squad. Simply not happening at all.
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17 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:
Not in one go, no.
Goes over £300k if you get promoted during his time at the club.
It was £150000 for both Sow and Pawlett
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5 hours ago, arab_joe said:
Sow is a work in progress - let's not forget that he left Hearts in February 2016 and basically hasn't played at a high level since (until he signed for us, he had managed 68 games at 4 clubs in China, the UAE and English lower leagues). He might well come good once he gets a pre-season done and some proper games under his belt.
How many of his other clubs thought the same? MK Dons fans thought he was part of the medical team he was in the treatment room that often. He has no pace, while I do see a player there Neilson has a major blind spot. If rumours are true we have paid a major (6 figure) fee for Sow and it shows with him played no matter what his form or fitness is. Shouldn't play again until fit. IMHO
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That's it over. Blown it with being too negative and possibly too nervous. The pressure got to them. On to next season.
One thing though if I hear one more person going on about us being a "Premiership club" I'm going to hunt them down!!!!
In all seriousness it's doing my head in. We are heading for our 4th Championship season. How many seasons down here does it take before we are a Championship club? We ceased to be Premiership when we were absolute crap and finished rock bottom. This whole attitude for me is an albatross round our neck.
We have signed players from higher "standard" leagues than the Championship the whole time we have been here. The attitude of "we're a Premiership club" seems to translate into players playing within themselves as they think they are better than the opposition, treat it as a forgone conclusion and then can't up the pace when required, the opposition teams get riled up by the attitude and are absolutely determined to get one over us. It also seems to create massive pressure that ultimately causes the team to wilt.
For two seasons now we've seen League one winners compete for promotion, in one case Livi got promoted. Both cases with far, far smaller budgets. Why? Pretty much because they built a team. They had players who would give everything on the pitch, play for each other. Other than Shankland, neither had a major standout in any position, but were a sum greater than their parts rather than us who seem to be less than the sum of our parts.
The other thing for me is we need to send a team out to win. This sending them out not too lose as to stop. Give the opposition something to worry about and play with pace, rather than dicking around at the back before aimlessly launching it up the park.
One more thing Sow and Pawlett should never appear again UNTIL fit. Playing unfit players when they are not capable is bad for the team and the individuals confidence.
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Game day, it is here, will we make it to the Premiership, or another season in the Fundeslega? My feelings and mood summed up with this...
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1 hour ago, virginton said:
He backed him in January because big-spending Ross County were in the division and your club - ridiculously - thought that you could still challenge them from far behind them in the table at the halfway point. That investment might get you through the playoffs anyway, but that remains to be seen.
Next season is an entirely different matter. Why would an owner chuck more of his own money in when your club’s turnover and budget would start off much higher than any other club the division? The onus will instead be on Neilson to get the best out of that major advantage. If he doesn’t though, you fail again.
That’s what will actually happen if you stay down, as opposed to the logic-free, Brooks Mileson-esque fantasy that Dundee United fans want to eagerly gobble up for some bizarre reason.
I'm really not sure where to start with this.
The owner has owned more than one sports club so is not going in with his eyes closed. Also has people with decent footballing knowledge and experience.
He backed Neilson heavily in January. From Tuesday's Q&A the investment was to stop a major change in the summer. The direct quote from the Chairman was no promotion was "not the end of the world". Four player are ready to be announced no matter the league we are in.
The owner has stated that money has been invested for the academy, available for the playing side, commercial side, etc. He has stated his plans for the club. They are not unachievable.
There is no Gretna-esque fantasy. Really do not understand why unconnected fans, ignorant of statements or full facts rabbit on on their own made up fantasy.
Like all clubs we have fans that blindly follow and give it large about owners, just like Morton do as we are all aware. Having said that I've not met any United fans personally that have, there have lots of questions asked and to be fair still are being asked of the new regime.
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2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:
This is the line up if we are serious about winning the game.
Seigrist
Watson Reynolds Connolly Booth
McMullan Bouhenna Harkes/Stanton Robson
Clark Seigrist
I’d prefer Harkes but want a performance like in the 3-0 game against ICT rather than the performance last night.
Also move the ball forward more quickly.
I suppose with his height Siegrist should win most crosses, but not sure of his finishing!
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My thoughts in last night from a United point of view
It was great to see that many fans at Tannadice again. I thought we were noisier against ICT, but the goals in that game help lift things.
It was obvious Neilson had told them to keep it tight, while I understand that we are a better team when we attack quicker.
This passing along the back, Siegrist to Reynolds, to Connelly, to Reynolds to...anybody as its an aimless punt (or Connelly to Reynolds to Connelly etc) is bloody infuriating.
The number of times we ignored someone in space and turned back into trouble was annoying too.
Osman Sow, the man, the enigma! You can see the ability at times at others enough said. However as my mate at the game pointed out when Sow went off that was the start of St. Mirren getting more of a foothold, or at least use putting less pressure on them. When he was on the ball was played to his feet or chest mostly, where held on to it and found a team mate. When Safranko came on the ball was launched in the air almost everytime where it seem to come right back to us. While I hope Safranko starts on Sunday we need to be less predictable.
Pawlett was poor in an attacking sense. Too many clever passes or flicks that didn't come off. He did however seem to be playing a lot deeper than I would like helping out Robson. He won his fair share of tackles. This was noticable when Stanton replaced him as we lost that dig that Pawlett had.
Watson has been receiving some criticism, but I thought he was OK. He is a centreback playing rightback so is naturally more defensive minded. Some of the criticism has been that he should have been driving forward more, but on these occasions McMullan was standing beside his marker making no run at all when he had space to do so and Watson was obviously wanting him to do so. He was wary of going forward because there were a few times he was left with his and McMullan's man.
McMullan should never have been moved inside.
I though the last 20 minutes was some of the worst play from us in the last couple of months, BUT I've softened a bit since last night. Neilson playing the long game knowing a defeat at home could be game over, I sensed a lot of nervousness from our players, which they might not feel away from home.
I know we can play better, St Mirren fans probably feel the same. The 2nd leg surely won't be as cagey as no one would want to settle it via penalties? On to Sunday and lets hope they give everything they've got.
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46 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said:
That sounds like hindsight talking. I was confident in 2010 but I was also confident in 1987. The rest I was probably expecting the worst (and was usually proven correct). I certainly don't remember going into the '94 game with any confidence at all.
I was very confident in 94 & certainly the folk I knew and went to the game with were. Maybe also my particular circumstances leading up to that game too but certainly felt that way to me. Either that or it was Ivan's velvet tongue!!!
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I must admit I am feeling nervous. I am also confident, not hugely but I do feel confident that we'll do it this year.
The reason for this is for all the SC finals before 94 there was a buzz, confidence, but this nagging doubt. 1994 and 2010 were different, there was a belief, a feeling it was our time, something that 2014 did not have.
The playoffs last year and year before didn't have that belief, even with the large crowd at Tannadice against Accies.
This year feels a bit like 94 and 2010, when you speak to folk and on line etc. The United fans will probably know what I mean.
There is always the caveat though, the Eddie Thompson final had the same buzz, but it wasn't to be, so I'm fully aware that the above may come back and bite me on the arse!
Never the less roll on kick off.
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2 minutes ago, Dele said:
Have to admit I burst out laughing when I was told this morning.
Almost, almost, as bad as the Dundee fan who was asking the club to employ a hand towel dispenser replenisher.
Ha ha. Sometimes the questions that get asked are like those asked at a clubby committee meeting. I know what the lad was on about, better facilities and layout for the catering areas, but it sounded like a bet as to how many times he could say "cup of tea"!
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5 hours ago, Dele said:
You forgot about the new shelving in the George Fox for folk to lay their coffee upon.
I was holding off on that one, it was such in important issue.
It was though a cup of tea, because when you have a cup of tea, there is no place to put your cup of tea down, so your left holding your cup of tea....
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Jerry Kerr stand now open for home fans. Thats some effort fellow Arabs.
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2 hours ago, Pull My Strings said:
So just one more to come in after those four? (forgive me, I'm still at least one coffee short of proper functioning this morning).
Potentially yes. Robbie's full description was he wanted 5 players, it maybe 4 it maybe 6 depending on budget, but he was looking for 5.
Tony Ashgar stated later on that they had spoken with 4 players who had bought into the clubs plans etc and after a meeting about players/budget/recruitment earlier that day it had been agreed that the budget would be moved about so that irrespective of league they would still be here.
No worries, happy to help.
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22 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said:
Scott Fox would be distinctly meh.
For those that were there - do the five new players include the four who have already agreed to come? And do those four include Smith?
The way it was said I would assume so. It was mentioned that part of the decision making and recruitment in January was to avoid wholesale changes.
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Dundee United 2019/2020
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I'd say that was very harsh. Siegrist seems to have been regarded as crap from the loud minority that the rest of our fans seem unwilling to go against.
Yes I can remember mistakes, every player makes them, but the keeper makes one its a goal, never mind the fan favourite that makes 10 a game, or the fact that 10 players in front of keeper couldn't stop the goal from happening. One of his "mistakes", the goal against QOS(I think) he stops a cross, couldn't catch it, went forward to kill the ball. Unfortunately the ball travelled too far out, you could see his body language change as he knew he was screwed, but more telling for me was the fact our defence made no effort the get to the ball, yet the only one getting blame was Siegrist. Happened a few times.
Siegrist for me appears to be a damn fine shot stopper. He wants to punch the ball, which is not accepted by Scottish fans, but in some cases is the better option than catching with the movement of these current spec balls. Yes he has his mad moments (Hamish, Sieb) but has been improving and shot stopping is fine. Benefitting from less hair em scare em defending in front of him.
Reminds me of Guido Van Der Kamp. He was a reserve keeper having played only about 10 1st team games up to age of 27. Not sure if it was his debut, plays against Celtic, shown live in Holland, misses a cross and Celtic scored. Dutch commentator and pundits slaughtered him. He heard about it from friends/family watched it and his confidence was shot. Hardly played again until Hegarty gave him lots of one to one and he was one of the heros of 94. Thankfully Siegrist seems to have got over the need to impress has relaxed more and his game is benefitting.
TLDR think some of the criticism he has had is over the top, was superb in all 4 play off games, is a good stopper and rest of his games is improving. Think he'll be fine.