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  1. My thoughts on last night

    We were poor. What I mean by that, is the BetFred is a great leveller, early in the season, teams not fully fit, still getting to know new players, which is why lower league teams get results. We played like we were in the middle of the season and needed to defend. We created a lot of our own problems with poor passing, ponderous play. The same issues we have had last season.

    Sporle wasn't great, BUT was starting to look better as half went on. Taken off to avoid a red. Boy hasn't had too much of a break from last season, doesn't speak English yet, and probably not used to the pace yet in terrible weather in a foreign country for the first time. Any one writing him off after 45 minutes competitive football with is needs to back off. We are a great support for writing off players before they have a chance. At least give him a chance.

    Shankland took his goal well. Didn't have too much to do though. Not a criticism of him.

    Clark, for the live of god Neilson, play him up front, or play Cammy Smith in the no 10.

    McMullan was non existent

    Stanton, a good cross for the goal, other than that a man down. If he is played in a non attacking role he is useless, too soft.

     

    Connolly? Don't remember him being that bad for Killie. Needs to remember its football not wrestling.

     

    Having said that, we had players just back from injury, having not trained much yet so we have that to look forward to. The defence, for all the criticism only let in one goal. Shankland scored, Appere and Banks looked good, it was only the first competitive game in bad weather in what is still preseason 47 days after our last game. So I'm not too worried. If we play like that against East Fife and Cowdenbeath then that is a different story, but we do need to move the ball quicker rather than to Renoylds to Siegrist to PUNT!

     

    Anyway on to the next game, which I'm sure we'll win.

     

     

  2. 3 minutes ago, Adam101 said:

    Get that American style road sign squarely in the "trash"

    There's good reason for it though and it's nothing to do with the new owners. 

    50 years of tangerine, 1st used when they played as Dallas Tornados in US leagues.

    Maybe not the best badge but can be justified

  3. 17 minutes ago, dundeeunited83 said:

    Spitting imagine of 1986/87 kit, I would imagine this is going to be a huge seller

    Totally. I had the big collars strip and the 82/83 as a child.  The only one that they could have chosen for me other than those is the one they have copied.

     

    Looks like a proper football strip, rather than a large t shirt with a badge. Good old fashioned strip. Fantastic effort.

  4. 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

    If I was looking for someone to blame for us not getting promoted it wouldn’t be Clark.

    Agree with this. For me, and I think its really obvious to see, he is the most natural finisher at the club last season. 

    I get @NEFarab doesn't like him & I reapect that even if I do not agree with it, but I also agree we do not use him in a way to get the best, as a goal scorer, out of him.  Last season he was mostly being played in midfield. I would have no qualms playing in a two with Shankland. IMHO of course

  5. 2 hours ago, harry94 said:

    Is the deficit being fully covered without any liabilities appearing on the balance sheet? That's the key question and it's what has protected Dundee in previous seasons despite not operating very well with the owners not actually having the capability of having the club taking on loans. There's a lot of vague mentions of 'loan finance' in the United accounts that seems to magically go down at points despite huge operating losses - there's definitely been some odd trading in the background.

    I don't think United will go into admin as usually, that hurts the people running the club but I would be worried about the assets being removed by stealth - as has already happened with Gussie (and talk of that being traded back?). Admin is bad but if you lose ownership of the ground, that's something that can genuinely haunt the club for years - Dundee losing Dens really fucks the balance sheet and even moving to a new ground doesn't return any of that security.

    To start with, IF we are paying that then I'll be super pissed off as I don't believe anyone should be paying that in Championship. Will be interesting to see the wage figures in the accounts.

    Your other points, we may have been making an operating loss but we still had money left over, plus the wage bill had made significant drops in last three years.

    Yes we had soft loans. Some of these were for short term reasons and the club cleared them. The others the Ogrens have cleared them.

    None of the club is being "sold off" nor are any assets being removed by stealth. Gussie Park was sold to Mike Martin for funds into the club, and was always with the intention of being transferred back to the club for the same money. Mark Ogren, at the Q&A confirmed that would be the case and the agreement was in place, but there was no rush to do so at the moment as there was no danger to it and the moneys from it are going to the club. He also stated the accounts next released might not look to good due to some of the restructuring going on and the Tannadice "maintenance" & sports bar, but advised us that this would not be the case from the following years onwards (obviously no time machine so cannot confirm this). So far things are looking OK. And will have to see what the investment brings in in respect of new revenue.

     

    Having said all that anyone one thinking of paying the wages being banded about for Vidal Baboon from the Sheep should be committed. IMHO

  6. 9 minutes ago, ArabFC said:

     Do we?

    John Souttar was a regular starter (at centre-back of all places) at 16. I think Garry Kenneth was 17.

    Gauld was playing fairly regularly at 17, Armstrong at 18. Goodwillie debuted at 16.

    Jamie Robson was playing for us at 18, and is hardly pulling up trees.

    A couple of years ago Ali Coote had played around 20 games for us at the age of 18 when he transferred to Brentford, where I don't think he's made a first team appearance.

    If they're good enough they tend to play. I can't remember anyone in recent years that had to wait till they turned 20 (ie Matty Smith) before getting a real look-in that turned into great players.

     

    That's all United. There definately seems to be that issue overall. I remember years ago when Craig Brown was in charge of Scotland, talking about a player whose name escapes me, when it was decided that they couldn't play him as he didn't have any experience. The player was 24!!

    As a club we have a reputation of playing youngsters but I do think we as a footballing nation seem to want an "experienced" player over youth.

  7. 1 hour ago, NEFarab said:

    Our problem in the last couple of years is the quality of youth player hasn’t been good enough. When the best players coming through since 2013/14 are Jamie Robson and Matty Smith you have serious problems.

    That's true, although Matty seems to have regressed a bit. He looked a lot more lively when he first came on the scene. Robson, I feel, has been a victim of his own stupidity/arrogance a bit. Maybe he might realise that and get the head down, maybe it's too late. Either way he should never be at left back, but midfield.

  8. 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said:

    I’ve never understood why in Scotland we assume all players are too young at 17/18.

    Maybe most would benefit from loan deals but there are some players of that age could make a contribution in the first team.

     

    Seems to be a big problem here, has been for as long as I can remember. Shouldn't matter how old/young you are, if you are good enough you're old enough.

    Quite frustrating watching a good player and hearing that they can't play not enough experience. How do you ever get experience if you don't play. Also works the other way, sometimes those with experience play with fear ( against so called bigger teams) where sometimes you need to play without fear.

    Obviously isn't the case with all players and situations as we have all seen sometimes mistakes brought on by inexperience.

    But yes GD in total agreement 

  9. 1 hour ago, invergowrie arab said:

    Im a massive fan of Friday night pints amd having a free Saturday. More of this please.

     

     

    1 hour ago, Dirty Arab 83 said:

    Totally..... Friday night footballs the best change to our game for years.

    Have to say I disagree. I hate them with a passion, Saturday at 3 is where it should be, prefer a half 12 Sunday to a Friday night.

  10. 10 minutes ago, Dele said:

    Was it not somebody offered to pay Gauld's wage themself (Deuchars?) and Mike Martin said no, that wouldn't be happening and no move for Gauld would either. 

    Theres not a chance Fyffe could afford that out his own pocket. 

    Maybe, I thought it was definitely ST that knocked it back, but your probably right about the other names.

  11. 9 hours ago, dundeeunited83 said:

    There’s been contact with gauld 1000%, he won’t sign though really really can’t see it at all

    Was it not a couple of years ago Gauld was up for a loan move back in a deal brokered by Jimmy Fyffe with him financing part of it and ST turned it down?

    If JF has his way this would be on, and I assume might add a little to the gates? 😉

  12. 5 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

    Alan Nixon confirmed Shankland to Sunderland is off this morning. New DoF being hired and doesnt fancy him.

    Hearts and Hibs interest ended after their respective signings of Washington and Doidge.

    Rangers interest ended after Nice decided against making an offer for Morelos.

    Portsmouth interest ended after signing Ellis Harrison from Ipswich.

    The players absolutely fucked himself trying to drag this out to play everyone against each other.

     

    1 hour ago, stewartyftd1 said:


    So is this all on twitter? Was on Scott Burns page and didn’t see him mentioning anything about Shankland.

    It was Alan Nixon who broke the story

  13. Seen tweet from Scotsman journalist that Ryan Guald will be allowed to leave Sporting if he finds a club. 

    Wait for the "bring him home" posts to hit shortly!

    We still own 20% of the player if the contract between United & Sporting that was leaked online was genuine.

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