Tannadeechee
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12 hours ago, Tannadeechee said:
Just listened to today's podcast. f**k me Tom English loves the sound of his own voice.
He has lost the plot. Yes there may be things folk are not happy with, but he has failed as a journalist, whose job is to "report" news, or if you get fed information, take that and investigate it. You don't just take what your told as gospel,any journalist worth their salt knows there is 3 side to a story the one you've been told, the other side's story & the truth.
Unfortunately Tom has taken what he's been fed as the only truth, ignored evidence from other sources and now shouting down and ignoring what doesn't fit his agenda. If he had done his job properly, we would be discussing a story of the procedural errors etc of the SPFL workings over this. It would have been done and dusted. Unfortunately with all the shite and half assed bollocks he's coming away with its lost. Totally buried under the flame fanning he's doing.
@BonniePrinceCharlie you down voted this, fair dos everyone is entitled to their opinion,I resect that. But any chance you could debate and tell me where you think I'm wrong, from a Scottish football perspective, not a "I don't want to play championship football" persective?
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Just listened to today's podcast. f**k me Tom English loves the sound of his own voice.
He has lost the plot. Yes there may be things folk are not happy with, but he has failed as a journalist, whose job is to "report" news, or if you get fed information, take that and investigate it. You don't just take what your told as gospel,any journalist worth their salt knows there is 3 side to a story the one you've been told, the other side's story & the truth.
Unfortunately Tom has taken what he's been fed as the only truth, ignored evidence from other sources and now shouting down and ignoring what doesn't fit his agenda. If he had done his job properly, we would be discussing a story of the procedural errors etc of the SPFL workings over this. It would have been done and dusted. Unfortunately with all the shite and half assed bollocks he's coming away with its lost. Totally buried under the flame fanning he's doing.
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28 minutes ago, Romeo said:
Here is the bold Derek. Your typical sevco supporter.
Please, please PLEASE!!!
I can only wish that would be true. The greatest thing for next season would be if they never set foot in our ground again.
They've boycotted us before, but they still, unfortunately turned up.
That guy is an absolute rocket, did his carers know he was phoning?
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3 minutes ago, welshbairn said:
Think the board get to call it.
Thats what I meant. The clubs have voted to give the SPFL board the permission to call ir, but it hasn't been called as yet, so Hearts are still officially a Premiership team.
Badly written by me. Any club needing a statement written????
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53 minutes ago, ribzanelli said:
The count sounds weird tho, Partick seem to have been relegated and counted as league 1 but hearts still counted as Prem?
The Premiership hasn't been called yet. Its only been given permission to be called by the clubs.
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56 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:
Have a greenie, just for the Quo.
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3 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said:
You think their position played no part in their vote? Aww, bless.
Played as much a part in their vote and thinking as Heart's situation did in theirs.
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3 minutes ago, kevthedee said:
So if the votes have been cast via email why is it taking 2 hours to announce the results
They need to get the IT guy to check their security system for blocked emails
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Just now, Speroni*1 said:
Genuinely hope we've done something again - Just for the banter.
Lot of people saying they're fed up of this, I'm fucking loving every second of it. The drama is better than what we see on the pitch.
Makes a change from the usual vain attempt at football related chat when theres no football!
Are we really sure this isn't deliberate to get folk talking about SPFL as part of some media campaign? As some of these statements.really are beyond parody!
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1 minute ago, RiG said:
Our position is a contradictory mess it's pretty much impossible to argue otherwise.
Fair play to you.
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2 minutes ago, Lobby Dossar said:
Aye but any football fan does not become Chairman of the governing body !!!!!
Course they do, unless your telling me that those people who become "Chairpersons" do not have any interest in following the sport they will be working in and is the most widely followed sport in the country that has over 100,000 going to games everyweek not including those that follow but don't/can't attend.
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1 minute ago, RiG said:
Our first statement said we would be content with the teams in first place being awarded the titles of their respective divisions.
But that statement was after the vote and this resolution.
That was ICT saying the were fine with the league winners and promotion after it was confirmed. This latest statement is relating to a story about their behaviour prior to that vote. The DR story also seems to corroborate Dunfermline's statement who say SG was more the "bully" and will be backed up by other clubs.
Thus latest ICT sounds more like child trying to save skin while caught with their hands in the biscuit tin!
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5 minutes ago, welshbairn said:
And third hand quotes from the early 90's. f**k knows what I could have been quoted saying back then.
Exactly,bad enough what we say now!!!
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7 minutes ago, The DA said:
Inverness Statement Mark II.
Oh dear...
Doesn't this.section confirm the DR story? They tried to out that forward, got told no because blah!, blah! blah! & then had a hissy fit.
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5 minutes ago, arabdelic said:
Perhaps he doesnt feel the need to respond to unverified he said, she said tittle tattle from nearly 30 years ago. Embarrassing that Rangers actually issued a statement about this
Exactly, show me any football fan who has never said something along those lines about a rival club & I show you a liar.
It doesn't mean its true, it could be a joke, it could just be rivalry type banter.
Thats not to say he may feel that way but context is everything.
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Scott Gardiner has now padlocked his Twitter and changed his profile picture, to one depicting a "Peoples Front of Judea" flag.
I'd say that was appropriate as they were a small bunch who complained about the Romans, except for everything they did that was right & never achieved anything!
Seriously though did they honestly think the other clubs involved would just sit back and take these accusations and say nothing?
Aberdeen's statement if taken at face value I get. Its basically saying due to the distrust, lets have an independent investigation & that way its all done and dusted and we can the accept its findings & move on. Only problem is, as it transpires, that may be giving into "bullying" itself.
Total shit show, but it is entertaining.
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Reading the SPFL reply, the paragraph that stands out is this one. Now if true that the SPFL has been contacted by other clubs unhappy at this, Rangers* have shot themselves in the foot big style, they have no support and more than likely a push to be sanctioned.
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1 hour ago, Speroni*1 said:
Graham Spiers smashing Tom English in that Twitter thread is delightful to see.
Just had a look at that. Jeez, if he'd come out and said ,
"lads, I need to be honest, there are things I feel Neil Doncaster & Rod Mckenzie and others have got wrong, which we'd all agree on, but I was wrong. There is nothing in these allegations to support the gnashing of teeth & shouting that is going on".
No one would criticise him ( other than a certain mindset) and he would gain much credit. Instead he is about to be buried under the dirt from his own hole he's digging that much.
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8 hours ago, Illgresi said:
While I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the notion that the league can't be finished, I'm not so sure that we can say "there is no way to finish the league", without at least having a go at exploring options. Now I'll caveat this by saying I'm not pretending to know how much it'll cost etc, and the risk is only mitigated, not nullified. You could run it like a mini world cup.
- Ask all the teams to name a 23 player squad.
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Pick a stadium (or two); it'll need to be somewhere with at least 12 hotels nearby, and preferrably in a centre of low population.
- Think Glasgow or Edinburgh, with the games played at Broadwood or Almondvale for example
- Each squad would need to be confined to the same hotel for the full duration. I'm sure the hotels would be delighted to receive any income, so would be more than happy to negotiate favourable rates.
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Play 2 or 3 games per day.
- 48 games are played in the WC group stages in 2 weeks
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We have 49 games remaining albeit spread
amongst more clubsdifferently, meaning it would take longer to allow teams rest.
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Try to acheive a deal with Sky and BT to televise/stream every game.
- All at the one or two stadiums, so reduced setting up costs.
- Ask the fans to contribute...say ST holders £5 per game, and non-ST holders £10.
Now, I'm not suggesting this is the only possible option, or even that it doesn't have holes in it which are pokeable. But it's taken me 10 minutes to come up with this, and I'm sure a viable option could be found if all of Scottish football really wanted to.
I've seen this type of thing suggested by others elswhere, but as you've said there are holes. My take on these type of suggestions are
Who looks after the hotels?
If the players are having to isolate away from their families etc for however long this takes to keep them "free" from infection who runs the hotels? Who does the cleaning the cooking the maintenance etc.? Because under this idea (and others of a similar type) you would need to have all the staff isolate in the hotel too. If they weren't doing so then they would be a major fly in the ointment of isolating the players as every member of staff going home could be a source of infection that could then spread like wildfire through the hotel population. This has been seen many times before. So unless every member of staff isolates in the hotel away from their home and families, in some case possibly having to bring their family in as well as they may be sole carers, the isolation is pointless. Massive extra costs in testing, extra compensation payments to staff etc.
Not just players, but all club staff required by the team.
Every member of staff, from manager, coaches, club doctor, physio(s), kitman, coach driver(if employed by club) amongst others.
SFA Officials.
All referees and asst refs would need to do the same. As refs etc have day jobs, not all my be sitting at home, and may not be able to isolate in a hotel and employer possibly wouldn't allow them to do that nor would all of them be able to "their jobs remotely". Would they be willing to isolate away from family and home for that long?
There are other issues I see straight away with these types of ideas, but most of them could be worked around, its just in all of them it is talked about is players. They are just a percentage of the people that would have to be affected in the above idea, the majority of the rest would probably tell those putting the idea to isolate away from family, be unable to leave family unattendd etc for umpteen weeks to f**k right off, for want of a phrase. I know I would in that situation.
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10 hours ago, St3vie said:
I'd have made the decision to the end the league's if and when it was appropriate to do so
....and if I was the SPFL, I would have paid out the bottom level of prize money to every club in each league in advance, to help tide them over, and buy time for all the clubs to come to some sort of agreement
This is exactly what they did. They had already paid out the money based on the bottom position in all leagues, except for those that could finish no lower than 6th in Premiership who got payment equal to 6th. This was done in March and reported in ALL good (and not so good) news outlets.
This vote was to allow the rest of the money to be paid out. Money which is dependent on finishing position. It was also to call the Championship down which financially WAS required by many clubs. It was also to get agreement to call the Premiership if necessary NOT to call it there and then.
We are into May & I find it astonishing that alleged football fans, by definition those who follow football news, and football forums where football news is discussed, STILL don't get that.
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15 hours ago, Socks said:
Tom English, along with most on Sportsound, clearly didn't understand the processes involved a couple of weeks ago. He clearly had no idea at all that clubs had already received almost all of their entitlement to guaranteed prize money, i.e. based on bottom place in each division. Since then, everything I've seen and read from his has made him come across as a slavering hoor and his repeatedly giving a platform to present Ann Budge's agenda, without any critical analysis, does him no favours at all.
I didn't hear Doncaster's interview and have only read the transcript on BBC website, but it does come across reasonably well to me, albeit he's only saying exactly what I'd expect him to. From the statements coming from the SPFL board recently, they genuinely seem pissed off at how things have been presented and I have sympathy with that view.
The bit in bold really irks me and says to me that none of them should be in a job!
The BBC themselves reported back in March that this was the case. Anyone actually following this story knew this. It is absolutely shocking that professional journalists do not and can not do the next to no research required to know this. What the hell are they doing for their wages? From what I can see they should ALL be cleared out and competent replacements sought
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5 hours ago, jagfox99 said:
I agree. The league also needs to bring in some level of financial fair play. The default champions are paying out more in wages than the club brought in through commercial, match day and broadcasting income. This decision has saved their bacon for the time being at least. That strategy cant be sustainable for them or any other club going forward?
The issue now is the lack of match day income for all lower clubs. We've effectively had 25% of match day revenue removed with nothing to fill that gap.
It also looks like the SPFL won't be changing the Challenge Cup or League Cup which is understandable as they need every penny.
Can I ask one thing from you?
How do you know what the club that won was paying THIS season?
As has been pointed out many times that was LAST years wage bill including almost an entire first team in January. 11 first teamers left after that date with only a couple coming in. Would like to see what was the figutes from July to March to see if that is this case for the season we are actually talking about.
I'm not saying we haven't spent THIS season, especially with all the new coaches etc for elite status for the academy, Shankland, Smith, Sporle etc coming in but we also seem to have over 3500 to average gates this season. Bit would like the real figures without the snide comments.
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1 hour ago, Fifespud said:
I reckon Nelms attached a picture of a massive cock on which he’d written Neil Doncaster is a ^ to the email. Thus it got caught in the porn filter.
What I don’t understand is why the SPFL would take any notice of Dundee’s ‘don’t count our vote plea’ once they finally received the vote ‘no’ doc down the piece of string. As SD has said 10 times you can’t go back in to the polling booth once you’ve voted, or recall a postal vote.
Unless it suited them of course.
Good point forgot about that option!!!
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28 minutes ago, Ad Lib said:
The organisation's mail marshall would then have the records of that. So publish those records.
Not everyone's does, will depend on its initial configuration. Ours for example if its been held and released automatically there won't be anything kept. A some systems may have a log file created every day, some its over written regularly. So it will depend on the system.
Not saying they can't, just if they can't it doesn't mean its a nefarious reason.
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Just a pity "successful business woman, but a bit shit at running a football club with stand palava, managerial fuckups and signing policy akin to 50p on the table, winner stays on" is a bit of a mouthful!!