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8 minutes ago, GallowayBlue said:
Reading about Wigan’s financial woes, I think they could serve as a bit of a warning of what could go wrong with Dundee United’s current financial model.
Interest free loans passed to different people and suddenly becoming high interest loans.
Again I wish people would be in possession of the full facts, we aren't running at 133% currently nor for last season. There were reasons the losses. They have been spoken about many times on here. Is it a concern, yes, is it deadly no. As long as the openness continues and the expected shrinkage of those losses towards better and more cash flow happens in line with what we are told them I am OK. IF they don't then I'll start raising my voice. Got to allow someone to somewhat they say they will (which at the moment they appear to be) before criticism
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1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said:
It was the differing views of the situation.
Many clubs saw it as 'Hearts are the relegated side and want our help, they need to sell it to us'
Hearts saw it was 'we've been wronged and you owe us a solution'.
I think if Hearts had pandered to the former a bit more and sold some benefits of reconstruction beyond keeping them in the division they may have got more traction. Still very unlikely to ever get the required support though.
You have to remember the ICT, Hearts, Rangers plan that was to void the league but hand out place based prize money. That pissed off a lot of clubs. I know ICT wrote a damning statement regarding the Record over it but 6 Championship chairman backed the story and Gardiner and ICT have been conspicuous by their absence since.
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5 minutes ago, Ric said:
Don't worry they have promised not to do that again.
Mind you, at the same time they shelved out a wedge of cash on Neilson, so you can make your own conclusions.
That's OK. The money saved from the wage drops paid for Neilson compensation.
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6 minutes ago, JTS98 said:
I suppose that makes sense if you don't understand what probation is.
I stopped while typing that out and thought "f**k it, everyone else is using half baked ideas just continue"!
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1 minute ago, King_Of_Kings said:
What a load of absolute bollocks!!
I'd say it's more like...
Hearts have been found to have been shite at their job, incompetent & just not up to standard. Due to circumstances out with anyone's control they were unable to let Hearts finish their probation and they were let go a bit early. They could have turned their performance round but unlikely. Dundee United have been given a job as they proved very good at interview & now Hearts want to stop them being employed.
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Listening now to the case. Let's how long it takes for legal jargon to put me to sleep!!!
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1 hour ago, Ludo*1 said:
Papers saying it's down to four candidates:
Steve McClaren
Malky Mackay
Micky Mellon
Austin MacPheeAustin MacPhee seemingly joined NI management team. Should still be able work at a club though, but may not be as manager.
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19 minutes ago, Accent-Unknown said:
Yes, I trust the reporting of a man who also reported that Shankland was signing, as well as literally every single United signing since Asghar came in.
Again, I'm failing to see what your point is?
Not just since Asghar came in. I remember he broke Chris Erskine signing a couple of days before it was announced, and others too. He is fairly on the ball when it comes north east and Fife teams.
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19 minutes ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said:
Same here, these DAB;s are living in a fantasy world. It'll be Lee McCulloch. IMO.
McCulloch and Forrest are off to Hearts once new guy is in place.
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3 minutes ago, ArabFC said:
I know it's what rival fans do, but still, having Dundee fans critiquing the record of Steve McClaren when they have James McPake in the dugout is a tad bizarre.
There won't be a manager in the game who has managed more than a half-dozen clubs, that doesn't have blots on his copybook. Certainly none that we could possibly attract - indeed, it still seems a little bonkers that he might be considering it. You mention the Newcastle gig. Word is he was on 50k a week there, so, y'know!
Simple fact is we'd be lucky to get him, and if it doesn't work out, well the vast majority of managerial appointments don't anyway.
To me he has a better record than Mackay & many players & those that have worked with him say he is a fantastic coach.
I'm just glad that we aren't going the usual route and entertaining different ideas.
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22 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:
McClaren was a great assistant manager but a dreadful manager in the past 10 years - was successful at Boro and his first spell at Twente but has been rank rotten since.
I would have thought United would be better with someone who knew the game in Scotland - Tommy Wright is a no brainer to me.Keep seeing that but 2nd Twente spell, both Derby spells win % , would have us sitting comfortably top 6. For newly promoted that would be great and a good platform to build from.
He has been working for FIFA recently and his job involves covering Scotland so would be me more than aware, but believe he wants a "local" assistant.
Tommy Wright is he even interested? I would happily consider him for the role, but he did leave Saints, not happy with DoF, and wanting to spend more time at home in N Ireland. As he hasn't got NI job though who knows.
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1 minute ago, kingjoey said:
I presume that you haven’t read through the last two days of this thread. You are officially the 100th poster to put this.
Really??
I thought he was being original too, haven't seen, or read it before here or on any other forum nor seen it every 2nd tweet about McClaren for past 2 days.
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Just now, Bohemian said:
How did he do with Ingurlund? Cant really recall him as manager, what tournament did he get knocked out of?
Didn't qualify. Was Sven's assistant(while manager of Middlesbrough) but defeated by Croatia, I think, meant they missed out on European Championships.
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10 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:
McClaren has a LOT of failures on his CV, but no-one else in Scotland's CV stacks up anywhere near his.
The worry would be that he's not lasted longer than a full season in 10 year and ultimately, he's not been successful in about the same time span, but that's the only reason a club like United can even tempt him.
In any case, if I were an Arab, I'd be ignoring that, sitting back and laughing that we'd just appointed someone of his calibre when being linked to the likes of Malky.
Absolutely quality coach and I hope he fucks it up big time. Fair play.
I'd disagree a bit with that that but concede your over all point. His last season at Derby they had been 1st to 3rd all season. Entered March in 1st, then pretty much stopped playing, finished in 5th. It was a calapse of epic proportions, but both Derby stints had decent win % & 2nd Twente wasn't too bad but never in a month of Sundays going to live up to the 1st one.
If he stays for 2 seasons and the likes.of Daly, Robson & McPhee have been interviewed as assistants to be groomed to take over then I'm OK with a short spell. Assuming it's successful.
But I'm sure you'll be here to laugh should it all go wrong!! ( Would be disappointed in any Dee who didn't)
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5 minutes ago, Merkland Red said:
Ah ok.
Not having a dig at the appointment. Every manager in Scotland is here because England didn't work out or hasn't happened yet.
No I totally get it. There are some howlers in his CV too, Wolfsburg, Forest, Newcastle and QPR. He joined Forest straight after Billy Davies and those last 3 clubs mentioned were basket cases (QPR 21 managers in 10 years or something similar).
Having said that after every "bad" one he has a good spell, his last one was bad so....
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Just now, Merkland Red said:
I'm going purely from memory but did he not spend quite a bit of money and bottle promotion several times?
His first spell, the form plummeted towards the end of the season & they finished outside the playoffs. But the bad form was at the same time as the Newcastle speculation. Although whether that was him or players who knows.
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1 minute ago, Merkland Red said:
In CV terms but has he nae been terrible in every job he's had since Twente?
Nope not for me, looking at stats(I know never tell the full story) Derby, both spells, were pretty good.. didn't get promotion which was the aim, so that was the failure. Everyone failed at Newcastle until Benitez.
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If Steve McClaren is appointed I will be delighted. Let's be fair outside the gruesome twosome, for a club to appoint such a high profile manager from outside Scotland is pretty rare. Should generate interest in our league as well, which hopefully is good.
I think his record is pretty decent, certainly better than McKay's. Yes he has had some bad spells, but over all I'm happy. I've seen some folk using his second spell at Derby as a stick to beat him with, but if he has that record with United next season that would have us on near 60 points comfortably in top 6.
As a coach he has a good reputation and for us Arabs, Johnny Russell speaks highly of him.
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Just now, Super Staggie said:
Will he bring his umbrella?
Nope, we'll supply him with some natty new United golf umbrellas. It's what the serious negotiations were all about.
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If Scott Burns is writing a story about McClaren being interviewed, then I'd be accepting that as true.
If he is available and interested, and let's be fair he isn't going to be interviewed if he isn't, then I'd take him. It might be a disaster, but with his record would be a tremendous appointment on paper.
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37 minutes ago, mishtergrolsch said:
I'd also like to add to this very good post that if a nurse, doctor, teacher etc had come away with only one of the things hes said they would he struck off and would never work in that industry again. Why should football, a higher profile with even more influence than said teacher, nurse or Dr would have be any different?
Cant wait to see him hold up the "Show Racism the red Card" banner if we are daft enough to take him.
As much as I do not want him as manager Show Racism the Red Card have given him support, or at least the OK of sorts.
https://www.theredcard.org/news/2016/12/15/the-role-of-education-in-changing-attitudes
https://www.theredcard.org/news/2017/10/16/srtrc-responds-to-malky-mackays-interim-appointment
As said I don't support his appointment, if it happens, due to his record, his comments are uncomfortable, and the division it is already causing etc. #UnitedTogether it most certainly is not. I merely responding to the bold text.
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League Reconstruction 20/21 season
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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No where, because it doesn't contradict anything.
Dundee's vote received at 4:48 this.is.not in dispute
Dundee's vote which was received at 4:48 is caught by security system pertaining to emails
Dundee's vote which arrived at 4:48 was not discovered to have been caught until some time later and released from this system well after 5pm.
None of that is in dispute. Deloitte went over the logs etc and produced a report that was excepted by the clubs. The arguments against the report were that it didn't cover what Rangers* and others wanted it to.