Tannadeechee
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Just catching up on yesterday's Sportsound. When you have Chick Young coming across as reasonable & sensible then it's time to give up.
Groundhog Day is the only way to describe the output. They quality of the chat befits Off the Ball's tag line of "petty & I'll informed" as the likes of Derek Ferguson match this description perfectly.
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30 minutes ago, NorthBank said:
At last. A journalist providing an alternative view .....
Read that last night. Bit of a shock to read someone doing this. Whatever your views on Bill Leckie it is good to see published views from the other side.of the argument.
The comments on Twitter under it were sadly predictable.
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10 hours ago, Mr. X said:
You won't get complete boycotts, but the travelling support will be substantially down.
Perhaps even as low as your average St Mirren or Dunfermline travelling support.
Once back in the same league would we notice?
The last big away crowd at Tannadice from Hearts was, if memory serves me correct, the game Michael Stewart was sent off arguing with his own fans in 2008. Since that time we've played Hearts, St. Mirren & Dunfermline in the top league and the attendances were pretty similar. Must have started the boycott over a decade ago.
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15 hours ago, Yorky said:
On the general principle of anyone contemplating deletion of incriminating documents on items of hardware, just because you delete something from a “device”, doesn’t meant to say that it isn’t recoverable - it most likely is! Even “off the shelf” data deletion software packages are not foolproof, despite multiple executions to purge hard disks.
It’s this line that’s now being pushed suggesting all sorts of wrong doing by named individuals running Scottish football with as far as I know absolutely no evidence. Are some of these posts not actually libellous.
This. Did this for a living, not deleting files, but forensic computer analysis for a "large public sector organisation". It is quite amazing the number of people who think that. Deleting a file only marks the space as usable, it will exist on the drive quite happily until such time as it is overwritten by another file. Even then files can still be found fully intact in file slack.
It's getting quite sad. They are turning into the.football equivalent of these American conspiracy nuts.
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21 minutes ago, Golden Gordon said:
Anyone who listened to Tom English and Craig Levein attempting to spit-roast Donald Findlay previously would be well advised to keep their counsel in my opinion.
I'd just like to point out what absolutely horrible image that conjures up!!
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1 hour ago, Thistle_do_nicely said:
now you've done it
We all been asking who is it? & now we know.Hopefully it won't turn out bad. I assume MM will wanna be startin' somethin' at Tannadice. Hopefully at the end of his time here we'll all be able to chat and say remember the time.. over his successes.
Sorry...
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45 minutes ago, NorthBank said:
Just about to throw the radio at the wall. Usual muppets bumping their gums through ignorance. The same shite repeated week in, week out. A Jambo based one sided 'discussion'. Thank goodness for Kenny McIntyre and Brian Mclaughlin to pull them up once in a while on facts.
The vast majority of Clubs voted against reconstruction and for ending the season. Can they not find someone out of all those Clubs to provide an alternative view?
I don't think they can. They say they have asked people on the other side of the argument, but they have refused. I can see why, it would be like going up against a kangaroo court. If they say something that is 100% unarguable fact, it still would not be accepted. No matter what side of this situation you are one, that sort of thing isn't to be welcomed. You need to be able to hear both sides, debate and accept some things as unchangeable fact. It may change points of view, it may not but there has to be debate with respect. It's all part an intelligent adult debate, although we are talking about Sportsound and their groundhog Day broadcasts.
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18 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said:
Had the french league previously put it to a vote? I see they did subsequently.
I'd expect the arbitration panel to have a view of the members vote. Now theres the initial vote (Dundeegate) but wasn't there also a subsequent premier league vote some time later that concluded the SPFL (Dundee not involved in that)
No, the vote "Dundeegate" was to call the Championship, League 1 and League 2 by PPG there and then. It was ALSO, to give the SPFL the power, with the agreement of the clubs, to call the Premiership at a later date by PPG if required.
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22 minutes ago, GordonD said:
Well, that seems obvious. If the season is void, who would be entered? Not Celtic, since they didn't win anything. Aberdeen, on alphabetical order?
No one. If season.was null & void UEFA had said no entrants to UEFA competitions. There had to be a sporting finish, call early, PPG or a play off of sorts for UEFA comp entry. They would then reject or refuse nominations if that hadn't happened.
Then there was the limit on 16th (I think it was) place league and down to have entrants nominated by 3 August, which all brings us back to where we are now.
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2 hours ago, LIVIFOREVER said:
Maybe Ann Budge has got her hands on one of these babies.
Right guys, you have to vote for reconstruction, this is the first time you've voted for it and you want to vote YES.
If she has, would she not be better to use it on the Tynecastle faithful so they have no recollection of the squad or standard of play?
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22 minutes ago, btb said:
I never understood why Utd./Raith/Cove issued their separate challenge - if the SPFL position is upheld then they'd be covered if not then they'd surely be looking at the SPFL for compo to cover their expenses for preparing for the wrong division.
Lord Clark obviously thought Hearts/Thistle had some grounds for action bur given that the SPFL were awarded 50% costs not to much - if I were a Hearts/Thistle fan I'd be preparing for, at best, a Phyrric victory from adjudication.
They had no option, they were specifically named in the court action & felt they needed to or were put in a position where they simply had to put their case forward. So that, if you like, clubs were not unfairly punished or harmed.
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43 minutes ago, The DA said:
Statement o'clock
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10 minutes ago, johnnydun said:
So @BonniePrinceCharlie can I have a comment from you on the outcome of todays events?
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32 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:
Like Viagra for the fucking soul - especially that last bit. Especially since a chopped off goal and no-score draw would have still left them bottom and DOON.
Plus it wasn't fucking offside either......it was a lovely wee hand ball.
I take it for son it translates as "jonesy"???
I know this is an emotive subject but really? Good grief!
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7 minutes ago, FTOF said:
A lot of daft things happen in Paisley. Here are some really daft examples of penalty taking.
That was deliberate as Neilson realised he wouldn't get back to Hearts unless he romped the Championship!
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57 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:
Should be good for a few quotes. He's apparently known for some daft sayings.
He's from Paisley, they have previous for that sort of thing
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3 minutes ago, johnnydun said:
Welcome back Ugly Prince reddot.
Spotted that, just been hit with a couple myself. Is that Roy... other account. Seems to red dot replies to him.
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41 minutes ago, Roy McGregor brown stuff said:
Aye ok then. Read up on those SPFL rules. Didn’t realise I was talking to someone with such in-depth knowledge of the case. My mistake.
& Here was me thinking this wasn’t the bar exam messageboard. I’m so sorry.
No it is a message board, full of folk giving their opinions and ideas on what is going round. But as posted if you are going to write post after post stating what you say as being what will happen as fact, be prepared to back it up. If you claim that someome is stupid, be prepared for them to question you further.
I have the rulebook, I've read the court document.
No one comes on here to try and be antagonistic to others ( well most don't) but engage in debate folk like that. They don't like condescending comment and superiority complex posts as your recent output. As said debate, read and take onboard others points. You may disagree with their point, but if backed up it's no less valid than your opinion.
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16 minutes ago, Aim Here said:
Wrong C14. Maybe you're looking at an old set of rules.
The correct one is this:
C14 The Clubs for the time being entitled in terms of these Rules to participate in the Premiership shall, disregarding any abandoned or postponed matches, play in 38 League Matches in any one Season.
Of course, this rule was changed by the Director's Written Resolution passed in April 2020, altered as per the articles of association, though I don't have the text of that to hand.
Exactly, changed by a resolution, voted on and passed by the members. Therefore unless the vote is declared void that resolution becomes effective. If that vote is voided, then it can be ordered to be retaken and if passed were are back to where we are now.
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34 minutes ago, Roy McGregor brown stuff said:
The SPFL cannot afford the risk of a full hearing.
They want this thrown out now. Failing that, it will be some form of out of court. Financial? Well I guess they’ll have to put that to a vote to all its members. Wonder if they’ll apply the 28 days according to their rule book?
What then if it doesn’t pass? Reconstruction?
What then if it doesn’t pass?
Back to court & they lose money either way tho arguably if they won a full hearing (gamble) then members would be recompensed. Still the big but there....
It’s a mess. Not necessarily of the SPFL as an organisation’s making but certainly of its member clubs.
As for being low on facts. The facts are there. Not my job to point out what you’ve missed or dont understand.
I understand fully, but if your pointing out what will happen, it's all, if you excuse the expression, utter bollocks as its a personal opinion, hope of what will happen.
If you are stating something as fact, do not be offended if someone asks for evidence to back it up. It doesn't mean they are stupid, in fact not backing something up may be taken as you are stupid due to the fact you cannot back it up with facts, but try to cover it up with bluster.
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15 minutes ago, Roy McGregor brown stuff said:
Can’t back the reconstruction up with facts but what other avenues are there?
Keep saying it. Full court hearing = likely delay to premiership hearing = chance other SPFL member clubs being hit financially every which way. Then there’s fact SPFL organisation balance sheet shows more liabilities than assets.
Can many afford that post Covid? Not many could afford it ore Covid.
Facebook? What age are you? 15?
The SPFL is run as a small administrative organisation, not many staff or money. All its money is pretty much the clubs prize money via league and League cup.
Can they afford not to defend it, not monetary wise but reputational?
The SPFL while wanting the motion thrown out, may well welcome a full hearing. May be able to bring up some of Heart's behaviour in all of this as well.
15??? What could possible bring that to mind?Far from it, hence the reason stated your post read like a Facebook post. The kids don't use that. It read low on facts, and high on wish like most Facebook posts.
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23 minutes ago, Roy McGregor brown stuff said:
The SPFL ‘rules’ or ‘articles’ of you prefer are so weak that i’ve seen better in a Golf Club’s!!
Thistle & Hearts only need to win the right to a full hearing.
SPFL will have no choice than to fold like a pack of cards. Their balance sheet tells you they as the organisation can’t afford to settle out of Court & that’s without mention about seeing Mr Doncaster in a witness box. I can’t see many of the other member clubs wanting it to go to a full hearing as it will cripple the game as well as their finances.
Reconstruction then all of a sudden is backed by all. What Thistle & Hearts wanted all along.Low & Budge haven’t covered themselves in glory with their own fans last couple of seasons but they’re sure making up for it now.*
*Or whoever it is that’s financing Thistle case.
One thing that folk seem to forget Neil Doncaster is a solicitor, all be it in English law, the articles will have been seen by him, and seen by a legal firm prior to creation. The same as the SFL & SPL before hand.
But you appear to be talking nonsense though. Reconstruction was voted on. Majority of clubs said no as it was a very poor, proposal.
Your post reads like a Facebook post containing your personal reality free wish list. Sorry but can you back that up with facts please?
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27 minutes ago, Mr. X said:
Did they explain why only Dundee's pdf went into the spam folder?
It didn't go into a spam folder.
The email was caught by a security system, similar to mail marshal. This works in conjunction with IT firewall. The email would have been caught by this. It could been because of the size of the attachment, he type of file (eg PDF or JPEG), the type of encoding used, did not fit with usual.activity from the sender address etc. Could be a multitude of reasons. Not all seem sane in the real world. The amount of false positives can be high.
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League Reconstruction 20/21 season
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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Yes, the same statement has been put out by all 3 clubs, with cost being shared between them.