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No there aren't, once again you're lying. You're a pathological liar who hates poor people, you must fit in very well in the Fib Dems.

Very enlightening you see Scots as 'peasant like', in terms of your attitude towards Scots and also towards poor people. You are a very nasty piece of work. And you clearly are disgusted by Scotland and Scots, you make that very clear and even referred to Edinburgh as 'shite', Edinburgh is one of the greatest cities in the world and tourists absolutely love it. You are betraying your true feelings by your words, despite your claims to the contrary. A typical self-loathing Britnat.

well to be fair he said that was the reaction of everyone on the unionist side including him, and sounds like he said that would gladden everyone's hearts.

Actually I take it back my mistake, googled the quotes It was James kirkup executive editor of the telegraph, he said why won't this man just Die?

He apologised to salmond about it when they were on qt together a few months ago. If you disbelieve it have a look yourself.

Live on the bbc about a year agoCourse if a Scottish nationalist had something similar the outrage would have shifted the planet off its axis and you'd still be hearing about it every day

The guy who said he wishes Salmond would die, and a self professed raging BritNat.

The 300 billion is merely oil revenues, you also have corporation tax and all the otheraassociated taxes, between 1980 and 2012 Scotlandsubsidised the uk to the tune of 222 billion. Yet ad Lib claims we were subsidised over this time.

Ad Lib the lying troll at it again, even the uk government admits we would have been better off independent since oil and makes its argument for us staying on the present and oil running out, it's widely acknowledged this is the case mccrone report etc. but ad Lib apparently has access to information nobody else does and argues the opposite is true. You need to improve your trolling, very poor.

He's a very bad unionist troll is all.

Maybe benevolent Westminster just refused to give us control of any means to grow and improve our econom and only gave us partial control of one tax which can't alter much and can only really serve to make our government unpopular out of solidarity. As for subsidies well the subsidies Scotland has given Westminster in my lifetime are eye watering and dwarf any shortfall apparently being made up now

I presume this is an attempt at humour. And to deflect from your inability to counter points raised. I wonder if Westminster just tried to cut our budget by billions out of solidarity, perhaps they lied to us about oil wealth for 30 years out of solidarity too.A

Yeah that's likely the people who are cutting payments to disabled people want to spend billions subsidising Scotland out of solidarity yeah good one, it's cause, as the last two economic studies of GERS have said, Scotland is a cash cow subsidising the uk. Nd yes that is how exports are calculated you can't just dismiss something cause it undermines your argument, all Scottish exports that leave an English port are counted as English it's a simple fact, most of the whisky industry is also attributed to London as the head offices are there. And they did steal 6000 square miles of sea that's also a fact, just dismissing it doesn't make it go away.

McGarry needs to put ddown the wine and step away from the keyboard and concentrate on being a good constituency MP. I agree the SNP surge seems to have let a few muppets in.

Absolutely owned. Top class post.

You can't seriously not know about the sea issue, the nigh before the Scottish parliament opened the boundaries were changed, moving the sea border between England and Scotland for internal uk subdivision matters from Berwick to carnoustie, you must know this everyone does, 200 miles into Scotland annexing 6000 square miles of Scottish sea. This was done to weaken the case for independence no other reason. Google it and educate yourself The last two studies of GERS came to the figures £16.9 billion, what's changed and give some supporting evidence for your claim these inaccuracies have been remedied, you'll excuse me if I don't just take your word for it. And you're clearly a BritNat.

Yeah, I'm thinking he needs to get laid worse than any man in history.

I'm getting that you are a Britnat troll. I asked what happened to the £16.9 billion reported as missing from Scotland's GDP which you claim has now been ammended, you didn't reply, and I asked you to account for these improvements which you claim have been made, can you do that? I'm not holding my breath for a reply from a troll but reply if you want. For other people who aren't trolls I encourage you to look into the inaccuracies in GERS you will be astounded. And Westminster did steal 6000 square miles of sea from Scotland and GDP in this area is not coutned in GERS, as I'm sure you know, but being intellectually dishonest you dismiss this. You're a lying troll.

It is also demonstrably not reasonable to assign economic activity in Scotland to England when trying to give a full account of Scotland's fiscal position, as is done with many things in GERS, which you do not deny. Therefore the economic picture is inevitably a lot rosier than GERS paints, which is obviously the intention. Your position is inherently intellectually dishonest given you fail to concede that point, even though your entire reply is based around accepting that is the case. There are other factors like the billion plus of Scotsh exports which are counted as English which would obviously have to be deducted from England's GDP and added to Scotland's to give a true picture as well as the 6000 square miles of sea Westminster stole from SCotland and any GDP generated within. It is also the case the largest ratings agency Standard and Poors said Scotland would qualify for its highest credit rating without factoring in even a single drop of oil, which you also gloss over in your attempt to claim borrowing would be an issue. Its also nothing to do with access to markets its about minimising tax liabilities, you are quite simply a liar, everything you say is based on dishonesty. You also say GERS has improved and the faults have been recctified, well okay then, the last study done of GERS said Scotland's fiscal position is actually £16.9 billion better than GERS paints, so what has happened to this money, can you account for it and show me the improvements made in GERS which you state have been made but provide no proof of? PS - can you please write shorter replies this post took me about twenty minutes to write.

True, and the UK government facilitates these companies declaring them I London, which would of course be impossible if Scotland was independent. This was clearly established and rgued by nobody in the referendum when banks were going to register in London but freely acknowledged they would still pay tax in Scotland anyway.

I can't reply to this on a tablet can't even quote it. You tell several blatant lies though and I would encourage anyone to look into it themselves you will come to the same conclusion. Example of a lie you told global taxation, corporation tax is paid according to where business is conducted, companies would have to pay according to the amount of business they do in Scotland, instead of the UK government counting economic activity as part of English GDP even when it takes place in Scotland because their head office is in London, same with Scottish exports being counted as English if they leave English ports.

Hello and thanks. I think this is very important, the next referendum will be fought largely on these figures, it's important people know the extent of fiddling that goes on to distort these figures to hurt the independence campaign.

GERS is a device used to fight against Scottish independence. The last two serious studies on it done by actual economists as opposed to posters on a football forum found it understates the health of Scotlands finances by as much as £17 billion per annum. The £8 billion 'black hole' it seems is really actually an £11 billion subsidy from Scotland to the UK each year. And of course there is no GERW or GERNI or for any area of England, just Scotland. It also doesn't take into account things like the massively disproportionate subsidy Scotland pays for infrastructure projects deemed of 'national' interest by the UK government and Scottish exports and economic activity counted as English due to port of departure or location of head office (London). I also read someone say here its the Scottish governments own figures/methodology, it's not, the estimates (most of GERS is estimates) are done by the UK government. Hello btw, first post.