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    The New Raith Rovers Thread

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    12 minutes ago, Michael W said:

    He'll want his money back for the stadium mortgage and also his monthly rent. 

    It's why it's important that we find a way to buy him out entirely. 

    This is where all the fan ownership noise we have heard over the years needs to be focussed, we (fans groups together not solely the trust - although they seem to be the best at getting more bang for their buck) need to own the ground.

    Then we have more long term control/stability IMO.

    the club and ground was too big a step for new ownership so there needs to be dialogue with Sim on a stadium ownership transfer.

    Get the ground valued, can a number agreed with Sim and start raising money or using the (fan groups collective)‘rainy day fund’ to chip away at his percentage.

     

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    The New Raith Rovers Thread

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    On 24/04/2023 at 08:30, Scottydog said:

    John Sim wants a young team too, his buzz word are "young and hungry", the problems with that are manyfold.

    Fist off to get youngsters you need some sort of academy, to get good youngsters you need a good academy. At the moment we have a handful of Modern apprentices but no youth team so without adequate investment we are now relying on signing other team's cast offs.

    Secondly, even if we manage to produce another decent crop a La Bowie, Tait, Arnott etc they will be sold off at the earliest opportunity, like as not long before the the Rovers reach the promised land where they'd be taken seriously for really big money transfers.

    Thirdly, as things stand Rovers actually have quite a young team, outwith Jamma and Thomson (both 30+) there a handful around the mid to late-mid 20's (LV, Dicko, Spencer, Stanton, Matthews and Millen but at least 11 of the rest are under 23. That is not an old team. What Sim of course means isn't "Young and Hungry" but "Cheap".

    Fourthly and this is the main reason why this idiotic bean counting idea won't work, you need a few old heads in the team, you have to have some experienced guys. Just take a look at the defence this season for example, we have been crying out for a Berra/Anderson type to steady the ship, to take control and organise defending balls into the box.  Further to that just look at our bench for the last 4 or 5 games, Saturday saw Thomson (GK), McBride (22), Young (19) & Masson (18). Ok we were light on options to put on to chase the game obviously but had we got a goal there simply wasn't anything on the bench we could use to help shore things up.

     

    Most of the kids whom we have produced that have gone on to better things have come from a decent Rovers youth set up and broken into a Rovers side that wasn't struggling at the wrong end of the table. LV, RM, RC and even the Ginger Ramos all mostly came into a team that was doing well. Our latest sales (Bowie and Tait) came from the youth set up and broke into a team that was challenging (albeit in L1).

    Our recruitment has been awful and our management of finances even worse! And that includes dealing with players and their agents.

    McGlynn brought in Ross and Gullan in the belief they could be easily sold on if we did not get promotion, he didn't bargain for them having the injuries they got.

    Why do we get so many players with so ,many injuries? Is it the surface? Is it the training methods? Or are they all just made of chocolate?

    I’m quite happy signing other teams cast offs - even one of the young success stories you mention Tait was at Motherwell and Partick before he came to us.

    He was actually advised to leave us due to lack of game time, then McGlynn backed him v East Fife.

    Also why does no one ever mention Easton as an experienced player the guy is 29 🤷‍♂️

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    The New Raith Rovers Thread

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    1 hour ago, buchan30 said:

    Listening to the k107 discussion and the guys seem optimistic and it sounds like the consortium are saying all the right things. Like a few, i am sceptical and wonder what they intend on getting out of us. Given what Sim was saying about transfers etc, it sounds like there needs to be more structure to the club and if they bring that, it can only be a positive. 
    I don’t know, we can only hope that the intentions are good, that sim has put his faith in the right people and it works well. Even if working well means we grow as a club steadily on and off the park. Yeah,  a few seasons in the premier would be great again but only if we were ready for it on and off the park. 

    Wonder if John Sim knew that the AGM would be broadcast on the radio a few days later 🤷‍♂️

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    The New Raith Rovers Thread

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    12 hours ago, Michael W said:

    It's not as if the club is under the total control of a man that ran a global accountancy firm or anything like that. Unbelievable. 

     

    Even then, take away that Rangers game and we're into -£500k territory. 

    That is appalling. How can the budgeting for the season have been so wrong? 

    I’d heard if we had won the Scottish Cup the bonuses the players had in their contracts would have bankrupted the club

    Mrs Smith was either out of control, out of depth or gave the previous manager free reign 

     

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    The New Raith Rovers Thread

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    51 minutes ago, Broken Algorithms said:

    Anyone get along to the AGM tonight? I was having a think about it earlier and when was the last opportunity to buy shares in the club (unless you're filling out a prospect pack to buy the place outright)? If it was 2004, then there's a whole raft of the support who don't have access to anything like that. I started going regularly as a teen and it wouldn't have been remotely of interest back at that point.

    Email the club saying you want buy shares - it really is that simple 

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    The New Raith Rovers Thread

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    3 hours ago, R.R.FC said:

    Would be pleasantly surprised if all the names mentioned were correct but I just can’t see it. Could certainly see a couple being correct but not all.

    Can’t see a few of those mentioned being happy with just a seat on the board but no real power and ultimately still answering to Sim. Feel like they would need a stake in the club and an element of control but the interview suggested no huge investment and certainly seemed like Sim would retain his current level of shareholding in the club.

    I suppose there is the possibility it would be used as a foot in the door to assess the club from the inside with a potential to invest and take a larger stake in the club further down the road.

    There is a resolution on the table for the AGM, which allows the board to give people shares as recompense in place of monies. 
    That could be the avenue used to shift the power from Sim to others.

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    The New Raith Rovers Thread

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    5 minutes ago, Michael W said:

    2 x Celtic at Parkhead. Both televised. 

    Televised game v Aberdeen in the League Cup. 

    Sale of Dylan Tait for £100k. 

    Still fucking lost money. Sim must be livid with the clowns that budgeted that and authorised McGlynn's spending!

    Have Hibs paid the full whack for Tait or was the fee less, but with add ins based on him actually playing games for them ?

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