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Not sure that is true. But even if it were true, yesterday was far more indefensible. Didn't have the same injury problems and we now have a supposedly experienced manager. I agree with @tree house tam that it was one of the worst St Johnstone performances I can remember. Certainly as a whole. We were atrocious at Kilmarnock in the first half before Xmas but at least improved after the break. Yesterday was pathetic.

Hold on. We spent £300,000 on transfer fees between May 2022 and May 2023? Come on, someone just spit it out who this momentual f**k up was regarding.

Do we actually need a stadium? Sell the whole plot and invest the £20 million in players and just play every game away from home.

Not had a chance to listen yet, was there anything new in it?

Very interesting.

This should be a routine win for a decent St Mirren side if they turn up on the day. St Johnstone might look organised and have a decent shape but that'll disintegrate if we fall behind (as happened in October) and we really do offer so little going forward. Main hopes for the day are getting parked easily and not having to stand for 90 minutes.

I do agree that Geoff Brown would be desperate to get shot of Oudenarde if the opportunity arose. I've said for years that there won't be another house built there. Thankfully, I don't think there will be a football stadium either. Short of a complete asset strip then, to be honest, the intentions of any new owners don't really concern me. Everyone needs to ride a roller-coaster once.

I don't mean this to appear harsh but much like David Murray destroyed his legacy at Rangers when he sold to Craig Whyte, we can only trust that Geoff Brown hasn't left a stone unturned here. That's not to say I'm reticent about the club being sold as it desperately needs to happen. The contrast with the ambition of the 35 years ago couldn't be more stark right now. One thing that will potentially be interesting is what is actually sold. Would you buy a football club without the 20-odd acre footprint it sits in? Who owns the site, Geoff Brown or the football club? It'll be interesting to see how much is divulged to us over the coming months if this is serious.

Actually didn't think the Saints performance was too bad but then I'm just drawn into talking about depressing rubbish like shape and not the fact there was anything actually exciting about it. Against the Old Firm it's acceptable enough but the problem is these same *positives* are all you can ever really take from *good* Saints performances these days. This struck me in the latest minutes from the forum meeting that Levein and Kirk spoke at: "Without a structure it is like basketball - end to end then it is down to the team that makes most mistakes that loses the game. We want to take that element away and have the structure that allows players to make more passes and correct decisions rather than forcing play and having to face a counter attack." Entertainment is very low on the agenda. Andy Kirk is here to show the world what a good football coach he is. But then, I'm still trying to work out why Levein is here...

All the chat about VAR again. Exactly as it was always going to be and never has the phrase about reaping what you sow been more apt for all the c***s that wanted this in our game. Of course Rangers and Celtic were going to benefit the most when instances in the box would be under the most scrutiny. The only idiots that couldn't see that were probably the ones that thought five subs was a good idea as well. Yesterday's decisions highlighted two of the many but main problems; for the first the referee completely bottles making a decision because he's happy to let his pal in the box do it then give him numerous angles. For the second we see how VAR doesn't address the issue of consistency that the morons that championed it believed it would deliver. Robinson penalised for an offence almost identical to the one Alex Cochrane wasn't penalised for a couple of weeks ago. Because it's still humans making decisions. To play on for what seemed like 2 or 3 minutes then just stop the game and award a penalty as well? f**k VAR.

It's a hard one to work out why there is so much animosity towards Levein so quickly, especially when you consider the situation he inherited and where we are now, which by no means is a good position but is considerably better than it was. Is it maybe because after 2 years of Davidson and MacLean, we were desperate for a freshness but instead have continued the attritional approach to matches and, even if it's marginally yielding more, it just seems like more of the same? It feels as if the whole playing side of things needs a reset. This time a couple of years ago I struggled to see how that could happen as a Premiership club but then 14 months ago Davidson had us in the top six and I saw a light at the end of the tunnel. It obviously then turned to shit again but made me think you could have this reset in the unforgiving environment of the Premiership. Despite Levein doing business in January, that belief has been eroded again. The best Saints sides I have seen have largely been built in the second tier, before moving into the top division. That's not to say I'm under any illusions about what we'd be letting ourselves in for and the off-field collateral impact but when we add in the soul-crushing abomination that is VAR, a relegation after 15 years in the top division is certainly not something I fear or would feel overly sad about.

I'm well aware that Bobby Sands is dead, so there will be no need for any helpful reminders thanks.

Two strands to it for me. The first is that he's got a bit lucky at Motherwell in the sense they've had so many injuries that they've had little choice but to stick with him. That's not to give him credit for stepping up when he's had that break but I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest he'd still be sitting on their bench if other guys had been available more often. Football is full of stories like this though. On the idea there has always been a player in there, like others I really, really couldn't see it but worth remembering he seemed to morph into Robert Lewandowski whenever we played bounce games. So maybe Davidson and MacLean should have worked harder at persevering with him. The former just didn't do that though. The whole story around the signing of Bair just summed him up.

Another day, another move away from us being less St Johnstone. On the pitch at least.

Folk that watch their team every week and know how attritional football can be at times appreciate guys like Chris Kane. The embodiment of a team player. He's never gonna win the Ballon d'Or but I'd take him into the trenches with me.

VAR is to Liam Gordon what the pass back rule was to Andy Rhodes. And yet it could be so much worse because yesterday certainly wasn't the first time this season he should have seen red. I get why he went for the header with Mellon when we were chasing the game but it was atrocious and find it staggering he wasn't given a second yellow.

Hopefully he doesn't cost you as many goals as he's cost us this season. Other Saints fans being VERY generous in their appraisal of this absolutely nothing player. Displays minimal effort as well. Looks like he couldn't care less about football.

Heartfelt condolences to all those of a Kirkcaldy persuasion.

Maybe it's just the lack of pace but what gets me about MK is what looks like a complete lack of effort. He makes every 70:30 in his favour look like a 20:80 against him. And he's about the worst player I can remember for taking a pass and simply tapping it straight back to the passer first time with no awareness of whether he's putting them into bother or not. I mean, I could literally do that. I watched him a lot last night and there's no movement either, he's never creating space to give his teammates an option. You might have thought this manager would bring the best out of him but at the moment I just don't see what he's bringing to the table at all. It's hard for him because everyone is abundantly clear how much Levein likes him but he's got to be so much better than but we are currently seeing.

I'd rather have eleven of James Brown than one Max Kucheriavyi. Everyone waking up to Robinson after clamouring to get him back as well. Helpful. Deadwood in the team, not just the squad. Our best players were all born before the fall of the Berlin Wall.

There is no doubt that Levein has got results. We've got 20 points from 14 games since MacLean was sacked, season form that's 33 points which puts you up there with Killie and St Mirren. He's only lost to the Old Firm and away at Hearts and Killie in the league. Folk will point out also how close we are to the top six. But it's hard to get your head around because we are still so rubbish. This is the worst Saints team, IMO, in two decades. They make attacking looking so difficult and struggle to build any sort of possession. The width issue was better yesterday but still there for was no one with an ability to worry an opposition full back. I appreciate we've been blessed with the teams put together from Coyle up to the double winners, but having to accept this being what have we to look forward to is s struggle, i can't lie. Can only hope that Levein intends to put far more of a mark on things.

Never seen it so quiet in and around the stadium. By time we got round from away end the place was dead and never been so easy to get away from the town. Even wandering out and across the bridge, the car park was empty. Having seen the movie twice before, has the Adams appointment failed to capture the imagination? I've seen worse games this season but that's not much of a bar. I still think County have a decent squad too.

It'll be 14 days after any booking that has taken him through the threshold, it that has happened.

Speedy and hopefully full recovery. @RandomGuy. Those few minutes to get the safety specs are always worth the hassle.

Anthony Cole is right. McClelland signed some truly unremarkable players. John Budden anyone?