Jimboyjones1976

There was another belter: Favourite TV show = We don't have a telly.

What I found really interesting was it appears, based on an average spread of adults, concessions and youngsters, that it was far cheaper to get into the Saints v Sheep game than it was for Hibees v Jags.

Been waiting a while to get this one. My mate in Mor can be has this hanging on his kitchen wall. Visiting him at present and swatched a snap of it. Pure class. It’s the old Alloa FC club shop.

I agree. It is a bit hard on Neanderthals to be compared to Scotland’s shame, so to make them feel more included into the ‘bretheren’, I made this. Saying that they look more like Airdrie fans with shit hats and clean hands now.

I had a squizz at that RM link earlier in the thread. Came across this other one. Pretty poor show. Called “ Young sheep fan, not hit with vodka bottle”. Love this one from it. Not happy with arguing throughout the thread about whether it actually hit him or not, which in the fans eyes is fine as long as it didn’t hit him, the next persons to come under the firing line of the ‘Famous’ are Police Scotland and Aberdeen for not performing rigorous enough searches in order to prevent bottles being taken into stadiums. Mentions nothing about the fact one of their ‘few’ idiots actual l brought the bottle in the first place and threw it. And when I say ‘few’, I actually mean most of them.

I see Chelsea have had something to say about last night’s violence in Ibrox.

Found this online recently. It’s basically a tool to make up tweets. Let’s see the tweets you’d really like Scottish football to say. http://www.prankmenot.com/?twitter_tweet

So, seems like Ashley has won his case and Rangers get to foot his massive legal bill. Nice. http://www.itv.com/news/2018-07-30/rangers-bosses-and-mike-ashley-should-try-to-make-peace-says-judge/

So Bennett. What do the court documents actually say?

Racism aside, Logan’s a snidely wee c**t. Yes, he has an ongoing dispute with Celtic fans because of the Tonev thing but that’s not the be all and end all. Just because Logan ‘won’ his racism case, doesn’t mean Celtic fans can’t have a beef with him for being a wind up merchant. It now seems that if anyone, Celtic fans especially, raise any issue with Logan then they are struck down by others and told they’re racist. He won his case against Tonev but that doesn’t cover up the fact that he regularly dishes out verbal. I can accept the fact Tonev was found guilty but cannot accept the fact that Logan now seems to think he is an untouchable. His behaviour at Parkhead was Ned to say the least. He’s a poor player who purposely went to wind up opposition fans and now, months later plays the racism card. Just on a point of balance, if this had been Neil Lennon in his playing days, who had been religiously abused (as was a regular occurance) and then made a complaint to the SFA, nothing would’ve gotten done. In fact, everyone and their dog would be giving him pelters for it. Same with Logan. The fact that he now makes a 2 month old allegation of racism merely chips away at his real accusation against Tonev and feeds into the narrative that he’s a wee p***k.

It gets more intriguing. King stated in an interview a while back that he had no intention of making an offer. TP insisted that it needed to be in a UK account for ringfencing and just sit there. I don’t get how King’s getting away with not making an offer to share holders. My feeling is that once the money is in a UK account, TP will take over control of it and make an offer to the share holders in an attempt to prompt King into following the law on this matter. If the TP had no intention of making an offer then why ringfence this money. King also stated that he deliberately run some the club at a deficit. Can someone explain this to me? The only reason I can think of running at a deficit is so that a company doesn’t have to pay more tax on their profits. In his own words he implies that his losses would be less if it wasn’t for his deliberate deficit stance. So how has the deficit materialised? Is that why he bought a load of shite last season? Is that why he’s turned down £11M from China? Surely he has an obligation to make the best for his shareholders. And how does this stance sit with UEFA fair play rules? Link’s here. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/dave-king-qa-full-rangers-12497577

Reading this thread with interest. Ironically, the only flaw in the safety systems in those days was the fact that they herded fans in groups rather than treat them as individuals. Post Taylor report, experts cited the main reason for all seating was that each supporter would be allocated a ‘cell of safety’ within the ground which couldn’t be moved. More than one fan in a cell leads to movement of people when that is exactly what stadium designers don’t want, unless they have designed the flow of movement. Effectively, football grounds working on this principle could have virtually limitless capacity, and be safe. I remember some terraced games at Hampden that were frankly terrifying, and that was in the 80’s. Whilst the surge of supporters was exciting, there was no doubt it was dangerous.

It absolutely is a point scoring exercise. In the case of Scottish football, it is majoritively Rangers fans that lead the charge on this. It certainly isn’t acceptable in any way, but what is for sure is that historic cases of this kind of thing happened when our society was a very different place. Not excusing it one bit mind you. One thing’s for sure, justice will not be served by a mob of baying Rangers fans wrapped up in ‘faux’ disgrace at their rival club’s past, using it as some sort of ultimate moral stance to get one over on them. Not once have I heard a Rangers fan talk about the victims in this and there’s no way on Earth anyone would give any creedence to a crowd of bigoted football fans who seem to take more personal gain from the issue than resolution for the victims. A Celtic fan here who understands the issue completely but will always and only accept a full investigation by the law into the matter, not some blinkered, bigoted attempt at justice from the ‘guardians’ of children’s rights and safe guarding in Ibrox. Fans that are so hell bent on blackening the name of a Scottish legend who even their own legend managers respect above all. In fact, blackening the name of a guy who showed his real colours by picking the dead from stairway 13.

I’m sooooooo interested in why you brought up this trivial, non story. Most interesting it was regarding Celtic Park and not your own ‘Crumbledome’. Must be struggling for mud to throw at Celtic in the close season to give this pish an airing.

That’s one of the shitest tattoos I’ve ever seen. And I speak from a purely tattooist point of view.

Read the article on him and his offence. Being drunk or not, no excuse for it. p***k! This must be the Sevco strategy on how to take on Scott Brown, seeing as he’s owned them for the past couple of years. Get a violent wife beater in to add a bit of steel and take out Broony. Broony will have him on his arse. End of.

Nice one. I think I might use that one with the wife when I point out that her diluvian attitude toawards sex is getting in the way of the threesome I suggested to her.

What does antediluvian mean? That’s a new one on me.

No. I’m not making that leap. I’d go as far as to say that any organisation that (apart from the core religion itself, I’m ok with that) seeks to further their own existence at the expense of other religions isn’t wrong. I don’t celebrate Bannockburn, armed uprisings or anything like that. Battle of Britain is a different beast. Whilst I don’t celebrate that either it was a different concept. It was a battle that was fought, by many of the world’s countries against tyrany and racism. Oh, and the extermination of nearly a whole religion in one continent at the same time. Again, with songbooks, I’m not for that either. The discussion on here was mainly centered around sectarianism and in particular Orangeism, which is what my reply was related to. I’d get rid of all of these types of organisation whether they be Catholic, Protestant or Muslim. Just not for it and the division it ultimately causes. As for the Orange mission statement that you posted, I get that and I see your point, which is a fair one you were trying to make. I understand that they aspire to this belief but the plain facts are that they don’t. The Orange Order is interwoven with Protestantism and Supporting Rangers in Scotland and we can’t ignore it. As too are the other organisations that exist and are linked to Catholics and Celtic. Get shot of them all I say. I just don’t understand why subscribing to a religion is not enough for some people and instead these organisations that seek to harness their doctrines simply don’t. Surely belonging to a religion should be the ultimate for these people but it isn’t. Instead these fringe organisations that exist seek to antagonise. Yes, there are plenty other non religious factions that cause trouble but this thread was mainly about Orangeiam, not Aetheism. Just get shot of them all. Would make the country a far more tolerant, cohesive and social society.

Orangeism is absolutely objectionable and shameful. An organisation whose soul purpose of creation is to lord it up over the Catholic faith in Ireland. They celebrate the Battle of the Boyne like it’s Christmas and have a songbook that’s littered with ridicule, humiliation and persecution of the Catholic faith. If they were true Brits like they claim to be then they’d invite members of all faiths to join their lodges thus reinforcing the British values of multiculturalism. The problem with Orangeism is that it was maybe acceptable in the days, hundreds of years ago, when the dividing lines were set around religion. We’ve moved on now, well most of us have. There’s no place for an organisation that harnesses the belief that they aren’t better than others based on their religion. The only British thing about them is probably their passports and they are no more or no less British that Catholics. As for the word b*****d, it’s banded around quite loosely nowadays and is nowhere near as offensive as it used to be.

Ha ha. I had to read the last two words a few times before the penny dropped.

Glass door? Is this what King means by transparency? I don’t even know where to start with this. The poor grammar. The lack of capital letters. The 2 spellings of Barcelona. If I was Rangers fan, a fate I hope is never bestowed upon me, I’d be proud of my club’s achievement without the use of EBT’s but overly embarrassed to have this anywhere near my house. One silver lining though I suppose is that it appears to still be at the manufacturers waiting to be fitted. Someone could do us all a favour and stick the boot into this pile of shit.

Is that John Wark just off centre in the orange vest and scarf?

Again, another example of a house bound bigot trying to justify his club’s attitude with a spot of whataboutery. *** is not an offensive term, as judged by Scotland’s anti sectarianism legislation. You know it. I know it. Even a quick look at the internet knows it. Rangers, if I remember rightly tried to have the word listed as illegal but guess what happened? It fell by the wayside like every other plan to come out of Govan in the last few years. It’s a pretty simple analysis really. Rangers, who not only have been world leaders in bigotry, have been dishing out sectarian slurs to others for their entire history, short or long, whichever you believe, and can’t handle it when it’s fired back at them. In those types of occasions the supporters of Rangers such as the eloquently educated and spoken press departments at Vanguard Bears or Follow Follow put out statements that always fail to condemn their fans actions and instead look to Celtic fans and try to deflect. Incidently, these same morons went berserk because Hibs cut their allocation. Irony is that after they had a big group cry about it and stated it was a safety concern, they then do the same at their place. Bottom lone is that *** isn’t illegal or overall offensive. The only people who are offended by it are Rangers fans who think their opinion on the matter is law. Which it isn’t. They are of the belief that everyone’s out to get them and will cite any form of abuse towards their club as a sectarian slur. Being offensive is a right in the UK. You don’t have to like it, or listen to it, but you can’t stop it. You can however, stop illegal terms. That’s what laws do, and the law doesn’t apply in this case. The best part of it is that Neanderthal Sevco supporters get so annoyed about it that it’s fun to call them that. At the same time they’re telling Celtic and Hibs supporters to go home. This very duplicit argument is exactly why no one takes them seriously anymore. The cherry on top of the cake is that their sense of entitlement, because they are ****, means that they are now so enraged that the establishment is no longer there for them that they’ve now such a fractured and stupid support that they can’t get their act together to do anything that is in the best interests of their club, like save it from liquidation. So, in summary, *** is not illegal, and not majoritively offensive. Only to Rangers fans. And judging by the way the rest of Scottish football has ‘listened’ to what they have to say over the past few years, no one likes them and no one cares, just like that non offensive song they like to sing about themselves. Long May it last.