Pet Jeden

Good faith - you maybe don't like what I say. But it is in good faith. Board Papers - I'm sure plenty of people on P&B can tell you that board papers, for big decisions that could swing either way, don't get rustled up the day before. £9m sweetener - wasn't magicked up. But its welding to the "Call it" decision was sorcery £10m to SKY - it's probably even worse than that. Link below says Ladbrokes deal was £2m pa. 5 years = £10m and it's been chucked at SKY to avoid a bigger cash repayment now? So £11.5m gone. And that's out of just £18/19m you say? For missing out on just the last 20% of the season? And you don't think BCD is going to see SKY find a way to renegotiate the £25m contract from 1st August? No wonder the SPFL is showing some interest in James Anderson's relatively small £2m or £4m or whatever it is. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49361657

+ 5 years free sponsorship of SPFL

But the £9m that was offered for ending the leagues - that was fine, eh? tbf your lot are voting against anything that isn't aimed at inflicting pain on us. Quite right too. That's your job.

No chance. No need.

The proposal to end the season (from April, not March) - Paper was circulated Wed 8th April. It would have been drafted/redrafted/run by McLennan a while before that. the idea of at least discussing league reconstruction was the will of all of the clubs - But Doncaster was so committed to exploring this that he just let Budge do it couldn't even reach enough agreement to produce a proposal that the clubs could vote on. - If only she could have attached a £9m "carrot/bribe/incentive/perk/sweetener" to a proposal, eh? now that he's sorted that out. - sorted it out? Aye, right. He lost £10m of last years £25m SKY money and we don't know yet how much of the BT money. And as I keep telling you, some bad news about next season's SKY money is surely in the post.

Did League 2 Chairmen not meet and declare they would only vote for 14-14-14?

Interesting. So what he is doing now is the will of which club(s)? And what he did in preparing the original board paper in March was the will of which club(s)?

Why was he leaving it to her anyway? If he believes it's the right thing to do, he should have been leading the way all along. If he doesn't believe it's the right thing to do, he should be nowhere near it now.

It's not an academic exercise. The aim is to establish which teams most deserve to come up and which teams most deserve to go down. Ideally all the originally scheduled games are played, but in the absence of that, surely the closer they get to the full schedule, the less unfair it is to all the teams? Maybe too, more clubs are likely to litigate down there and for bigger sums of money.

You think that's worse than not giving teams a chance for promotion/relegation based on a play off result?

Got to disagree. I’d be happy to play it any time in the next year or so - even with a different squad. But then I would have been happy finishing off this season any time in the next year or so. None of this Saints-style whingeing about “ oh but we will have released players”

Yes, but every year they can be sure of a couple of rounds of qualifiers, a few glamour pre-season friendlies, and usually Europa League football, if out of the CL. With £85m turnover, Celtic had more than anybody to fear from a delayed start to the new season. The SKY money is chicken feed to them, they need bums on seats and season ticket sales (how are they doing)? Or Dermot D to put some money in. Yours, A. Pygmy

1. Good. So you don't deny that your £1.5m v £150m comparison was pish. 2. SKY are not the devil. They won't want to create havoc for the sake of it. But they will be under financial pressure and they will want a fair deal. You think they won't renegotiate. I say you're naive. Doncaster has just admitted they've taken £6.5m - £11.5m out of the SPFL for last quarter of last season (assuming league sponsorship is worth £1-2m pa). Wakey, wakey. 3. The stuff about Celtic supporters on the board isn't a wind-up. It's just an acknowledgement of human nature. Would be the same for any other team - although nobody else currently has huge dollops of Euro money built into their budgets. You think the Chairman, the lawyer and maybe 1 or 2 others wouldn't let their heart influence them? Oh, Craig.

Craig - I think worries about Killie's financial situation are clouding your otherwise logical thinking. The issue is not £1.5m versus £150m. That's a very deliberate misrepresentation you're making there. Year's 2 onwards of the SKY deal will either be for normal football, or the whole game is goosed anyway - the biggest clubs most of all. Celtic's wage bill is £1m per week. The issue is/was starting year 1 on August 1st or risk the first £30m being renegotiated (and any personal bonuses vanishing) versus losing £1.5m for SKY's lost games + £5-10m given away with 5 years free sponsorship + £5m (?) potentially lost from BT + any compo due to the shafted teams. Pushing the decision a certain way would be any Celtic supporters on the board because their overwhelming concern was that absolutely nothing should jeopardise them being ready for starting Euro competition and the £20m or whatever that brings them. And some 9 in a row thing you might have heard of. Hearts, Partick, Falkirk, Stranraer, Kelty/Bonnyrigg/Brora were barely a consideration.

Considering he was wee, and essentially an attack-minded player, John Collins was one of the best slide-tacklers I've ever seen.

And no big man up top! You see? He was flexible.

2 managers, 3 loanees, 1 who quit at lockdown. So 12, who are not having their contracts renewed. Or"fired" as you say. You reckon, while studiously not publicly naming the benefactor, Ann would have introduced them post match - "Hey James, meet Joel. He's just cost us 3 points". "Joel, meet James, he's just donated £3m to us".

Stay classy? When talking about The Daily Record / Sunday Mail? Classy like this?

1. Plenty left, but that number is rubbish. 2. Do you really, honestly, think any players, let alone loanees, youngsters, players on contracts no being renewed, would have a scooby about the identity of Anderson? Seriously? Outside chance Levein would, though.

Yup. That'll be it. Must call the Record (thought nobody ever)

Of course they don't. But any guesses as to who put them on to him within 24 hours of contact with the SPFL? Please, please don't say "investigative journalism".

Didn't know. Until now, only one of many rumoured.

Admit it. It's your screensaver now. On a more serious note. Can anyone tell me just how many equivalent sexual references or images appear on P&B with 72 year old Chairmen as the subject? A big part of Scottish football culture really is stuck in the 1970's "get yer tits out for the boys" era.

Hopefully the money buys a few thousand test kits and players and managers have to go to Ann's dungeon where she will be wearing a nurses uniform (Hattie Jaques style) and waiting to administer the test. It won't hurt, honest. (btw it's not for Livi, it's for lower divs. Premier should surely be able to look after itself - Celtic philanthropists, Rangers wealth off the radar, SKY millions unaffected and just about to come in according to Doncaster)

There's something what you say. But don't underestimate how reluctant Doncaster will be and how emasculated he will feel, that the woman he is arguing with has sourced some free munney to help the threatened lower leagues, when he himself has so far come up with the square root of SFA.