Burnieman
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50 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said:
B teams still aren’t allowed in the pyramid, they’re only guest teams in the Lowland League. They can’t be promoted or relegated
The Lowland isn't the Pyramid. There is no rule barring B/Reserve teams, as Stirling Uni Reserves and Stranraer Reserves show, Livingston B also applied for the EoS.
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Just now, O'Kelly Isley III said:
If it's Dumbarton you are referring to, we've had not one home fixture postponement this season.
Your turn.....
I don't believe I mentioned postponements at all, however the state of your pitch at a Broomhill game is the worst I have seen at any level for many, many years. I believe there are pictures on here somewhere of it.
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Could be a long season for them coming up unless they recruit well, some LL clubs will be quite happy.
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1 minute ago, To B or not B said:
Ffs, is that it, take the rest of the night off.
You just agreed that there is one rule for one, and another rule for someone else.
When did Bonnyrigg go all SPFL on us?
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3 minutes ago, Burnieman said:
One rule for one, another rule for someone else. I refer you back to the point about the SPFL not looking good.
1 minute ago, To B or not B said:It’s not though is it, as current league members they were given a timescale, any new potential new members were told their timescale
Thank you.
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1 minute ago, To B or not B said:
They don’t need one before the play-offs, they were given a time limit to get it, that time limit is not up yet!!
One rule for one, another rule for someone else. I refer you back to the point about the SPFL not looking good.
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Just now, To B or not B said:
Why? They were given a year to get it, that year is not up.
They weren't awarded a Bronze licence today, therefore they will not have one before the play-off begins. Sound familiar?
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1 minute ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:
Be gone with you, peasant.
Probably fails the licence criteria, demotion to the LL for next season please.
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1 minute ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:
When a suitable pyramid involving teams that want to be promoted and/or aren’t competing in a joke leauge with B teams we will welcome it. Until such times close the door.
What about clubs with ploughed fields masquerading as a pitch?
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2 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said:
This has to be a massive wake up call to those SPFL Clubs who don’t have a bronze licence and have one year to get it.
If they don’t and on the back of todays decision, those Clubs face being chucked out the SPFL at end of next season ?
Shouldn't they be chucked out now and Airdrie prevented from entering the Premiership play-off?
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Just now, To B or not B said:
They were granted those derogations by the SFA licensing committee, not the SPFL. The SPFL require the Bronze license to be in place at the commencement of the play-offs otherwise the clubs haven’t met the entry criteria for the competition.
The SPFL lead them up the garden path on the face of it. Told the club to ask for derogations as recently as Tuesday, they did and these were granted with the final one to be confirmed in two weeks, the SPFL then went back and pointed to 31st March.
The SPFL also implied in their statement that the club were ignoring them, clearly that wasn't true.
We then have Airdrie taking part in the Premiership play-off with an Entry level licence, when they should have had a Bronze licence in place last year. So they do not meet the requirements either.
There's a lot going on here that doesn't add up and doesn't paint the SPFL in a very good light.
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20 minutes ago, Marten said:
Apparently it's possible to apply for a period of grace as long as a plan is put in place. So not neccesarily.
If Buckie were granted 3 derogations/waivers with the remaining one to be completed by 15th May, and that still wasn't good enough for the SPFL, then I don't place much faith in what the SPFL claim.
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"At 5pm today, Buckie Thistle FC received an email from the SPFL, stating that because the club do not comply with the SFA Bronze Licence criteria, and did not apply for a waiver or period of grace in respect of this non-compliance by the deadline of 31st March 2024, there will be no Play-Off Tie between Buckie Thistle FC and East Kilbride FC, and East Kilbride will automatically go forward to the Pyramid Play-Off Tie with Club 42.
However, we can confirm that the club has been in regular contact with the SFA in regard to the Bronze Licence criteria items, and we were in fact asked by the SPFL to ask for a period of grace for four of these items on Tuesday 23rd April, which we duly did.
Our Club President Garry Farquhar attended a meeting with the SFA on Wednesday 24th April, and we were granted Derogations for 3 items - Floodlights, Safety Officer and Diversity & Inclusion. One item - Medical – has been deferred until the 15th of May, but the club has committed to resolving the matter by May 10th.
It goes without saying that everyone at the club is stunned and devastated by the timing of this decision. It’s particularly harsh on the players and management, who put so much hard work into winning the Highland League title, that they don’t get the opportunity to go for promotion."
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22 minutes ago, Burnieman said:
"At 5pm today, Buckie Thistle FC received an email from the SPFL, stating that because the club do not comply with the SFA Bronze Licence criteria, and did not apply for a waiver or period of grace in respect of this non-compliance by the deadline of 31st March 2024, there will be no Play-Off Tie between Buckie Thistle FC and East Kilbride FC, and East Kilbride will automatically go forward to the Pyramid Play-Off Tie with Club 42.
However, we can confirm that the club has been in regular contact with the SFA in regard to the Bronze Licence criteria items, and we were in fact asked by the SPFL to ask for a period of grace for four of these items on Tuesday 23rd April, which we duly did.
Our Club President Garry Farquhar attended a meeting with the SFA on Wednesday 24th April, and we were granted Derogations for 3 items - Floodlights, Safety Officer and Diversity & Inclusion. One item - Medical – has been deferred until the 15th of May, but the club has committed to resolving the matter by May 10th.
It goes without saying that everyone at the club is stunned and devastated by the timing of this decision. It’s particularly harsh on the players and management, who put so much hard work into winning the Highland League title, that they don’t get the opportunity to go for promotion."
So if the SPFL are telling the club to ask the SFA for derogations as recently as Tuesday, which they were granted today with one TBC by 15th May, why did the SPFL then go back and point to the 31st March deadline? did they lead Buckie up the garden path?
Why also are the SPFL publicly implying the club ignored their comms on the issue.
It appears they have very good grounds to go to town on this, if they wanted to.
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Just now, Beachcomber said:
Burnieman this evening
It's been a while, so I'm making the most of it.
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Just now, Jacksgranda said:
I assume you're correct.
Never assume.......but I think I may be.
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Just now, Jacksgranda said:
Clarify your assumption which, according to yourself, you're not supposed to assume? That would be a tricky one...
Can you address the point re Airdrie?
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Just now, Jacksgranda said:
Indeed. So can you clarify?
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"At 5pm today, Buckie Thistle FC received an email from the SPFL, stating that because the club do not comply with the SFA Bronze Licence criteria, and did not apply for a waiver or period of grace in respect of this non-compliance by the deadline of 31st March 2024, there will be no Play-Off Tie between Buckie Thistle FC and East Kilbride FC, and East Kilbride will automatically go forward to the Pyramid Play-Off Tie with Club 42.
However, we can confirm that the club has been in regular contact with the SFA in regard to the Bronze Licence criteria items, and we were in fact asked by the SPFL to ask for a period of grace for four of these items on Tuesday 23rd April, which we duly did.
Our Club President Garry Farquhar attended a meeting with the SFA on Wednesday 24th April, and we were granted Derogations for 3 items - Floodlights, Safety Officer and Diversity & Inclusion. One item - Medical – has been deferred until the 15th of May, but the club has committed to resolving the matter by May 10th.
It goes without saying that everyone at the club is stunned and devastated by the timing of this decision. It’s particularly harsh on the players and management, who put so much hard work into winning the Highland League title, that they don’t get the opportunity to go for promotion."
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1 hour ago, Dunning1874 said:
The previous cut off level where a bronze licence was required before it was extended to the whole SPFL was the Championship. Cove were in it last season with an entry licence and Airdrie are in it now with an entry licence. Did these clubs apply for a grace period to achieve their bronze licence prior to 31 March in the seasons they won promotion, or were they just granted it without asking? If it's the latter I think it's reasonable to point out the double standard here, regardless of a) that not being an excuse for Buckie and b) everyone who is entry level needing to have applied for a grace period by 31 March 2024 if they want to remain in the SPFL in 2024/25.
So I assume Airdrie have been given the all-clear to compete in the Premiership play-off with just an Entry level licence?
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On 20/04/2024 at 19:05, FairWeatherFan said:
Congrats to Buckie.
No Chicken Littles running around saying the big, bad SPFL are banning them from the playoff for not having a Bronze license?
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25 minutes ago, The Moonster said:
Things that didn't happen thread for this horse shite.
If you would like to go and ask the Haddington Athletic Secretary, I'm sure he will gladly fill you in on the story.
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Just now, The Moonster said:
If Buckie know the processes why did they completely dingy the process and reminders of the process that has now stopped them being promoted?
"Nobody knows if a grace period would be granted" except we do because you've been given numerous examples of clubs who are currently being given grace periods to complete things.
We're not doing very well keeping it a closed shop considering Shire, Rovers, Cowden and Brechin have all disappeared yet to be seen again. I await you saying this has been achieved in spite of the conspiracy to keep all you horrible wee village sides in the doldrums.
You've completely ignored my point so we'll leave it there.
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Just now, EdinburghBlue said:
Generally agree.
One of the challenges is that licensing is a blunt instrument, so we don’t know whether Entry easily upgradeable (e.g. Cowdenbeath fans on here saying that their reduction from bronze to entry was because having a doctor at every game - home and away - was unaffordable outside the SPFL) or requires major expenditure on facilities.
I recall that when the SFA brought in floodlighting as an Entry level requirement, an EoS club were being audited 10 days later for their Entry level licence, no grace period allowed, so they were delayed a year getting a licence because they couldn't erect floodlights in 10 days!
Bonnyrigg almost got done for the same thing.
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They also removed the requirement for a club doctor from the Entry level criteria as it was so difficult to find one who was prepared to do it, even though there was no requirement to attend games. For Highland League clubs to find one to attend every game is another level of difficulty for them, given the population sparsity.