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Just now, Nicholas Rage said:
Aye that's done and dusted, but hopefully in three years time it'll be a minority trying to push the agenda for a few quid.
Unless there's some sort of agreeable solution, if it goes to a vote in 3 years time I think the B teams will be gone.
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36 minutes ago, Nicholas Rage said:
Another B team yes voting club gone. Every cloud and all that.
B teams already in for the next 3 seasons, by that time hopefully there's a long term solution.
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10 hours ago, Cowdenleith said:
Surely there has to be, even to a lesser extent?
Their crowds are averaging 80, say they are all adults paying £8, so that’s £640 per game. Not much over £10k on gate money for the whole season.
I think they do a bit of hospitality, no lottery that I am aware of, maybe they are very well sponsored?
Clubs like CCS don't survive on gate money alone. Lottery, raffles, bar takings, sponsors, SFA payments all add to it. Players may also be paid not much more than expenses. Either way, Jardine and his coaches do a tremendous job.
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11 hours ago, Cowdenleith said:
Someone has to be putting their hand in their pocket to fund CSS, even if it’s not on the scale of some clubs.
I don't think there is.
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23 minutes ago, aidan-bufc said:
Gobsmackingly high or low?
Low, from what I understand of it. Gary Jardine works wonders with them.
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20 minutes ago, Omnishambles said:
Strollers really have won a watch with Jardine. Their budget and gates should completely defy being a top 6/7 team in this league.
Their budget would probably be gobsmacking to most people.
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Missed it out
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2 hours ago, MrIrvinePollock said:
Never really paid much attention to the 'B' teams, but the one benefit that I would have expected is an increase in the crowd counts when they visit. The table doesn't reflect that. I'm also surprised at how low the crowd counts are for their home games.
It's as if nobody really cares about watching the emerging talent at Celtic and Hearts
I'd say an average of 268 is very decent for what amounts to U20 football (only 12 less than Albion Rovers, 20 less than Cowdenbeath), the 6th best average in the league. Celtic perhaps not so much.
On the flip side Gala's top two league crowds were against the B teams, Linlithgow got their second and third biggest against the B teams, CCS their biggest and third biggest. Stirling Uni third and fourth. Broomhill and Cumbernauld got their largest crowds against Celtic B.
That's a benefit in a league where you have four or five clubs that literally bring no fans at all.
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Update on twitter from @The Faceman today
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Update on twitter from @The Faceman today
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26 minutes ago, bobbydazzler said:
can't stand when a good thread gets entangled in the same nonsense every couple months.
A Premier Division thread talking about the Premier Division promotion set-up
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38 minutes ago, jimbaxters said:
He's right mate. You can't talk about professional embarrassment then advocate finishing 2nd in your league yet going up just because you have the right boxes ticked or more resources than the club who finishes ahead of you.
I, for one am against this notion of promoting the highest placed licensed club! Or as it should more commonly be known, the "Make sure Clydebank get up even though they're not good enough" rule
Why are you mentioning Clydebank?
If Beith for example are working towards their licence but because of circumstances it's going to take a few years to sort the issues. In that time they win the league because they are a good team. They could potentially "block" access to the play-off for a number of years whilst navigating the licence process (which isn't open at the moment either). Replace Beith with, for example, St.Cadocs or Gartcairn.
It's not a radical concept to then go to the next eligible club to take part, it happens elsewhere.
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I have to agree that the rules should change to highest placed licenced club within the top 3 positions.
So for example Beith win the league, it goes to second, and then third to find a licenced club for the play-off. If there are none, then no play-off participant.
Should have been that from day one really to remove "blockers" from the equation. It can't be any more unfair than a club finding themselves in the fortunate position of auto promotion to the LL due to no licenced Champion in the other two leagues and therefore no play-off at all. A fortune of circumstance/timing.
You'd hope that eventually the rule would become redundant anyway as more clubs become licenced.
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I see the airport has new owners, let's see if it improves anything other than increasing the drop-off charge
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6 hours ago, highlandmac said:
I think a lot of the problems at the egates is user error,having someone to actually help would help I'm sure;I asked the guy exactly how to do it yesterday&it actually worked for once,no coincidence I'm sure
The rest of the passport control experience was a fucking shambles though,marching people up&down those string lines whilst they were waiting for people to process at the booths/terminals,people meanwhile queuing from the top of the stairs, embarrassing stuff,you actually think are they doing this to be as awkward as possible?
There appears to be no organisation. It's not the first time when entering the tin shed that it's largely empty, but you still have to walk up and down the lines. Nobody with the brains to open a shortcut to speed things up. There's also the usual question of why no dedicated desks for UK passport holders, but that's not the airports problem I guess.
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38 minutes ago, Spyro said:
It shouldn't make a big difference if they got the promotion and relegation right.
Invite Lochee and Tayport into a new LL2
Nah, they're Heilanders now. They were never part of the East Region JFA either until about 2002, so it's not as if traditional clubs were being excluded.
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2 hours ago, Spyro said:
The East should still have the Dundee teams under it imo.
That's 20 more teams that would be in the EoS
The Lowland League area already has far more clubs in it than Highland but the same promotion opportunities, that would make it much more unbalanced than it already is. Leave them where they are.
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3 hours ago, highlandmac said:
The egates are a shocker
If the member of staff there concentrated on helping folk with them rather than being surly im sure they'd be much more efficient
But yes,an appalling welcome to Edinburgh,swiftly followed by the airports public transport option ripoffs,I suppose it'll get people into the mindset of how they'll be treated in the city
My passport never works at egates in the UK, but anytime abroad and having to use them, it works. Work that out.
Basically, Edinburgh Airport cannot cope with the amount of flights it handles. In reality the terminal building needs demolished and rebuilt.
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On 19/05/2015 at 13:36, HTG said:
As the title says. How bad does this place have to become before something is done about it. The security is a fuckin disaster zone. New owners who give zero fucks about their core purpose of getting people off the ground. Maybe folk would spend more money in their extended shopping mall if they could get into the fuckin place.
Discovering this thread 9 years later. It's not changed, well, you pay a shitload more to drop off/pick up.
Landing into Edinburgh from outwith the UK/Ireland and then having to climb 3 flights of stairs if you're not fortunate enough to have an air bridge, walk along small gloomy corridors, back down 3 flights of stairs and then face the disaster that is the Border Control tin shed is a terrible welcome to Scotland. Last year I spent an hour trying to get through after landing from Madrid, 1 person on the desks and the e-gates working for about half the people.
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1 hour ago, BANKIEBILL said:
Damn - why didn't I think to use atavistic in P&B post ... Always enjoy the too rare posts from you my friend
atavistic
adjective formal
UK /ˌæt.əˈvɪs.tɪk/ US /ˌæt̬.əˈvɪs.tɪk/
happening because of a very old habit from a long time ago in human history, not because of a conscious decision or because it is necessary now:
an atavistic fear of the darkEvery day is a school day........
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14 hours ago, Cowdenleith said:
We are not a kick in the arse off 7th (which is really 5th if discount the b teams), can’t make it now of course, but for all those cheap points thrown away we could have been. And that would have seemed like real progress.
From what I saw in the games against Hearts B, Cowden have the basis of a very decent team. Haven't seen you against anyone else but if you can find consistency then you'll be top 6 (inc B teams) next season.
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17 minutes ago, Shanner said:
The question of why so many people are desperate to essentially vandalize a competition that still gets a great level of fan engagement at the turnstiles is the one I always like to try and get answers to because football is all about the fans and getting shot of a product they are demonstrably still attached to really doesn't feel like the "good guy" argument in this. So if we are going to get shot of it any time soon the arguments need to be far stronger than the stuff on 99% of this thread and should include attractive alternatives to the SJC to gain some buy-in from the SJC participants because that would be walking the walk in terms of being progressive.
I suppose it's fairly straightforward. As soon as the competition starts to materially effect the WoSFL to the detriment of the rest of the Pyramid, then it needs binned.
There is a danger it could happen IF entry to the SCC is made non-compulsory by the WoSFL against the wishes of the LL, EoSFL and SOSFL, and instead the Junior Cup is handed priority on fixture scheduling. That undermines the SCC and the Pyramid, it may also get the SFA looking at it.
Again as you said, all hypothetical at this stage and may never happen at all and the WoSFL continue to juggle things, but that's the argument should things go down that road. Effectively, you're either fully committted to the senior Pyramid and it's competitions, or you're not.
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I wonder if Uni can buck the trend of going straight though the EoS Premier like a Saturday night Madras.