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2 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:
Scrap the pyramid.
The thought of a good, honest league club like Stranraer losing their league status to a vanity project/glorified sports club and B team voter who have cruised into the final because some diddy, teuchter mob prefer being a big fish in a small pond is sickening.
Close the door.
how's the pitch looking, still a tattie field that would shame a pub team?
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Just now, The Moonster said:
You're having a mare here and I don't know why. Buckie have cleared made no attempt to gain their license or even have dialogue with the authorities to see how they can work towards it. I know nothing of EK but Bonnyrigg have been making ground improvements since they came up, I assume to meet these requirements. You say these clubs haven't met deadlines but you've no idea what deadlines or dialogue they've had. It's clear given this decision that Buckie have done f**k all and now want everyone to point the finger at the league, when it's their own wee bumpkin club that has embarrassed itself.
You have taken the SFA statement verbatim, lets see what Buckie say.
The point remains four SPFL clubs do not have a Bronze Licence and are getting an unknown period of time to comply whilst others aren't. It's protectionism in plain sight but at least EK are still in there to hopefully pump another one into the LL.
The same guy who proposed this rule change also said this;
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/call-for-relegation-from-league-two-to-be-suspended-2517037
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3 minutes ago, Le Tout P'ti FC said: fair play!
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7 minutes ago, Le Tout P'ti FC said:
Are you sure about that? The 24/04/24 Club Licencing Awards rate them as Bronze. Only Peterhead are rated Entry at T4.
https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/football-governance/club-licensing/
Fair enough, they have recently been awarded it, still 4 to go so the point stands about period being given to comply.
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Just now, To B or not B said:
Everyone was given fair notice, Buckie chose to ignore it, their loss. The need for EK and Buckie to get theirs now is because of the commencement of the lower pyramid playoff, the 5 current member clubs do not have that time pressure.
You didn't answer the question. How long have Bonnyrigg got, and why not give Buckie and EK and anyone else the same length of time? This has been rushed in, fair play to EK for managing to get over the line.
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Just now, Accent-Unknown said:
Two things can be true:
1. The SPFL didn't give enough notice.
2. Buckie could've and should've still responded to any of the 3 letters the SPFL sent them
Agree, if the second part is true. Will be interesting to see what Buckie come out with.
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2 minutes ago, To B or not B said:
Indeed squire, and have a deadline to work to as an existing member club.
Which is not treating everyone equally, agree?
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1 minute ago, Jacksgranda said:
Well presumably they have shown they are working towards it. If not, do they get expelled at some future point?
Assume nothing. It's a bit tongue-in-cheek to illustrate the point that for a change of this nature, the SPFL should be providing ample notice of at least 2 years to avoid this nonsense. Clubs got 10 months.
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Just now, To B or not B said:
I believe existing member clubs have a deadline to get their license, it’s all in hand.
You were given the same notice as Buckie and EK.
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1 minute ago, Jacksgranda said:
Aye, but they're in the SPFL, bronze level is now required to gain entry to the SPFL.
It is also required for existing members.
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Just now, To B or not B said:
Yes, and your point is??
Demote you back to the LL if the SFA/SPFL are playing fair by all member clubs.
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2 minutes ago, To B or not B said:
The license committee only met yesterday, and despite several reminders Buckie failed to meet the criteria.
Bonnyrigg don't have a Bronze licence either.
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6 minutes ago, the_bully_wee said:
Makes a mockery of the entire thing, really, a club deciding that it simply can't be arsed getting promoted. In an ideal world the play-off spot would go to the next highest ranking club that meets the entry requirements.
The mockery part is why did the SPFL bring in this requirement at less than a years notice, yet 5 SPFL clubs do not have a Bronze licence.
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3 minutes ago, Shanner said:
Ah that's grand then. Juniors bad.
WTF are you on about?
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Just now, Shanner said:
Buckie Thistle found wanting and making a mockery of the playoff system today though.
Which has nothing to do with the standard of their ground
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I warned months ago that this would happen, and it was called scaremongering. Thankfully no reason could be found to exclude EK so hopefully they go on to pump whoever they play.
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5 minutes ago, Shanner said:
the junior game contained a larger variety of teams than the HL (which is basically a division) so I'm not sure it's fair to characterize this as a one-size-fits-all Juniors Bad thing.
C'mon for generations there was zero money put into Junior grounds when compared to level of spending on players, with only a few exceptions.
100% of HL have seats and lights and was even a requirement to join I believe. What percentage on Junior grounds upto the move to senior football had match lights and seats. 5% if I'm generous.
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On the subject of SFA/Govt assistance to upgrade grounds owned by clubs, I guess part of the problem has been decades of certain clubs spending big on players whilst fans piss against a wall and get rained on. Should the taxpayer bail them out if the ground needs upgraded?
SFA Licencing has forced some clubs down the road of having to think about it, but there are grounds that are so far gone only starting afresh elsewhere would solve the issue if a club wants licenced.
The Highland League is an example of clubs investing in facilties over decades. The Junior game never followed suit.
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2 hours ago, Shannon said:
If Broomhill do eventually go down will they even want to kick about the West of Scotland Leagues?
I can see them calling it a day. They are so far away from where they began, their financial backer(s) are going to get fed-up eventually chucking the money in to keep them afloat. They ain't hiring Dumbarton for free.
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Macauley Tait has gone from B team to Scottish Cup semi-final appearance in 5 months.
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If Gretna also go down this season, it's squeeky bum time for the likes of Broomhill.
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1 hour ago, Cairn Cheerleader said:
Ok children calm down...
the below containers have been installed which are toilets and a food cube but not completed yet and more will arrive. The portaloos were taken away due to the fact we didn't have a home game in 7 weeks and now don't have one for another 3 weeks so wasn't much point. The sporty provided toilets for the pollok guys and same for our last game v Hurlford.
full hospitality was given to the committee (who didn't turn up) and the players who we gifted 3 goals lol
see all you lovely people next season where I'm expecting Arthurlie and Polloks grounds to offer sushi or any hospitality for that matter. Well maybe we won't see Arthurlie right enough.
thanks all
It's taken a decade to move from portaloos to recycled container toilets?
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If you charge an entry fee, you should be obligated to provide M/F toilets at the very minimum, preferably hot/cold drinks as well. This isn't the 19th century, well......
I was at Linton Hotspur yesterday, a new EoS club from the Border Amateurs. Great set-up, large bar area servig food and drinks with TV & seating, another hospitality area under construction (all using new Portacabin style buildings), toilets and a seated stand for about 50. Their attendances are less than 100.
If a club lke that can provide facilities, surely clubs who spend £000's on players can as well.
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17 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said:
Making relegation easier so you can be promoted back more readily isn’t that a compelling vision - SPFL sides aren’t that myopic. And yes pretty sure over time an SPFL club will make the return journey and a former Tier 5 club will fall back to that level
Almost certainly but in the short term it's only going to get harder as the Edinburgh Uni's and Gretna's of this world depart to be replaced by much better teams. That has a fair way yet to play out, and I'll stick my neck out by saying a former SPFL team will drop to tier 6 before one returns to tier 4 (in the LL).
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How long is the grace period?