LatapyBairn.

Agreed, chance to progress in a major tournament. Getting out of this group alone is also worth about 50k in prize money which last season allowed another couple of players to be signed after we progressed.

I think you’ve probably nailed it to be honest. Mountains being made from mole hills as usual on here!

Bearing in mind those fans/investors and patrons are the very people now either running the club or elected the people now running the club, that’s not a dig as I’ve actually been very impressed with the new people and with the job they’ve done turning around a sinking ship. The reality is however we are either as a collective fan base be prepared to invest a little more on a regular consistent basis than we have done historically to allow the luxury of being a properly fan owned football club or we consider outside investors taking a controlling shareholding in the club that may be prepared to invest on an ongoing basis. I have my doubts such an investor exists to be honest. There of course is a halfway house where our model and level of ambition with regard to what type of playing squad and what level of the football tier we expect to compete at may have to be reduced, I just hope when/if that was to happen our fans continue to back the club in current numbers and the club does not spiral as we have seen happen with other clubs who at one point probably considered themselves a “bigger club” My own opinion is in the short term the club needs to try and safely speculate to accumulate until we can get up the leagues again where we have a better platform to get the club into that not only sustainable but competitive place and none of that is going to happen overnight.

Some people seem a bit confused between running an operating deficit and running at a loss. Noticed a few posts about the club running at a loss which isn’t what I took from that statement , we are projecting an operational deficit but the money from the cup run and SG fan bank (last years accounts when published will probably also show a profit/cash balance) has allowed the club budget for that while also upgrading the pitch/floodlights. It’s not ideal long term which is why they are obviously still pushing the FSS investment but it is different from spending money the club doesn’t have, the cash to cover this year’s deficit is already in the bank ,the concern for me is going forward after that if we can’t increase investment we will indeed have to cut our cloth accordingly which will directly effect the playing budget and the quality we see on the pitch.

He still attends most of our games despite living down there, maybe just the interaction with other Falkirk fans on a Saturday afternoon is enough for him!

Having spoken to him this morning I can confirm BPM has indeed cancelled his account on here….and it’s only July! Lol.

I’d say quite a few posters probably have been overly negative by already writing us off before a ball is kicked, If you scroll back you’ll find plenty comments of that ilk, can see BPM’s point. Comments along the lines off our new signings being no better or worse than the players that left despite us yet to properly see them. Or comments along the lines of the squad being no where near good enough to challenge for the league which is quite obviously not true, even as things stand (and I’d presume they’ll still be one or two players in and out) we are probably favourites to win the league with most, or we certainly won’t be far away from being so which is rightly the expectation however if you read back and look at the tone of many of the posts (not all) you’d think we were mid table to relegation candidates. I’m quietly optimistic about the new season. I like that we’ve added physicality and Lang, Spencer and Aggyman should be excellent signings added to the fact I don’t see any team going on a run like Dunfermline did this season. Only maybe Hamilton on paper have a comparable or better squad but even that is debatable.

There are definitely more than a few posters with cup half empty syndrome but they soon disappear/stop posting when we win a few games. I’d say either accept or ignore them because the forum in general is actually ok and isn’t anywhere near as bad as one F was IMO, it’s definitely better than the drivel posted on the Facebook page and on occasion can actually be a decent read if your looking to kill sometime. Don’t take it too seriously.

Most clubs including ourselves always end up with one or two in the door last minute, yes it would be nice to have the finalised squad before pre season ends but it almost never happens. They’ll be comings and goings before the transfer window closes. It’s nothing new.

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I know that but it is not set in stone, possibly the Rawlins yes but I’d hazard a guess SA and MR may step aside for the right investor. It’s not really the point tho, a single cash injection doesn’t cut the mustard. For me it’s only worth considering if by some miracle a Roy McGregor / Willie Hauchey type investor appeared and was willing to continually underwrite loses putting fresh cash into the club each season with nothing in return. It’s complete pie in the sky stuff anyway, we don’t have that type of sugar daddy and I doubt we ever will. We need to make fan ownership work by buying into it collectively and in a bigger way than we are now.

The previous board and owners were hounded out not only for they’re poor record in managerial appointments and resulting poor performances on the pitch but for a multitude of other disastrous decisions and behaviours of which you could literally write a list as long as your arm. These judgements of the leadership need to be based on an overall package of things but I do agree the choice of managerial appointment and resulting footballing performance is certainly one of them.

Pretty sure the club is open to investment from the right people however these people don’t grow on trees. The Rawlins were meant to provide the “3 legged stool” model but have offered up nothing over and above that initial share investment. The cold facts are there isn’t an Arab billionaire or even a Roy McGregor waiting in the wings desperate to start writing cheques every season , we can’t wait about on something that might never happen and if the fans want the club to kick on we are going to have to do it ourselves through FSS / patrons group and things like concerts at the stadium or selling academy players will need to be built into the mix over and above FSS contributions as far as revenue goes. The infrastructure of the club will need to continue to change if we are to keep investing while still remaining sustainable and that takes time. There’s no quick fix but if there is I’m certain the Rawlins or guys like SA / MR would listen to offers for they’re shareholding, new money from the right people is welcome but the 3 legged stool model only makes sense if you can find a third leg for the bloody stool.

The administration of the club as a business, resurrection of the youth academy and the general fan engagement from the club has improved immensely over the last 18 months IMO, the revenue figures showing increased sponsorship and profitability will back most of that up. A lot of improvement behind the scenes yes, however the majority of us fans just want to see the club get out out of this league and play a bit of decent football, most don’t pay attention to the rest of it so it’s understandable that until the football side is sorted many fans will remain in a state of anger. However, as has been pointed out under fan ownership the majority of our BOD were elected via the FSS or patrons group therefore if any fan is unhappy with the running of things they can join up and vote to democratically elect a new board. Or even better step forward and volunteer themselves as a candidate come the time.

The “pragmatic” approach won Dunfermline the league last year. I don’t care how we set up as long as we get results! We can worry about playing pretty football when we eventual get the f**k out this league!

Think it depends on the person, I get every bit as animated at a Scotland game as I do a Falkirk game. Don’t think it’s anything do do with fans being more or less passionate but more to do with the carnival type atmosphere at these major tournaments, you noticed a similar thing travelling away from home to watch Scotland. I’d say it’s less aggressive an atmosphere between fans than it is compared to club football but not sure I agree it’s less passionate, it’s just a different thing.

Hamilton will be like for like with Airdrie if not slightly better, the cove games will obviously be massively under attended in comparison to the Dunfermline games.

I think the source of the information is the reason people are writhing it of as bullshit as much as the lack of supporting evidence when pushed. If it had been from the majority of other posters it might hold more weight but as has already been pointed out Pedro’s one sided views on the clubs new regime and consisted thinly veiled (some not so thin!) attempts at shit stirring and jumping on negative stories yet remaining silent when something positive regarding the club happens haven’t went unnoticed. The boy who cried wolf springs to mind.

Exactly. He was quite obviously being sarcastic!

Don’t think thats the point to be honest, any professional player trying to carve out a career in football going onto a reality TV show like that pre season or mid season kind of shows how committed they are to their club. Not saying it’s the right or wrong thing to do but it speaks volumes of both the guys attitude and how he views Edinburgh city’s relevance in a footballing sense.

You’re completely missing the point! You said we would be these players “last option” That quite obviously is not the case here. Whether they live up to their pedigree or potential is a completely different debate altogether, that comes down to how they are coached and managed.

This is drivel! Did Lang , Spencer or Hogarth only have Falkirk as their “last option” ? We already know Lang and Spencer rejected contract extensions at Raith Rovers to come to us and I’d wager Hogarth also had options elsewhere having just left a premiership Nottingham Forrest and being a Scotland under 21 international his profile / stock would have been high enough he’d probably have attracted interest from other clubs as well. We should be and probably are the most attractive full time option in league one for players both financially and otherwise, there are no excuses this year. The manager has been given all the tools to win this league.

I don’t think that’s the case at all to be honest, no idea what evidence you’ve based that on.

I notice Kennedy still has not found a club.

You said we weren’t signing a right back as the “budget was gone” If this is the case i’ve missed that communication from the club so where did you see it? Or are you in fact as I suspect just speculating/shit stirring? As you’ve just pointed out the senior squad was to be 20-22 players so at a squad of 19 we’d expect a minimum of at least one more incoming player and that’s presuming there are zero outgoing players, taking all that into account I’d be happy to wager we will indeed see at least one more player brought in, actually I’d even suggest it’s more likely we’ll see 2 or maybe even 3 incoming before the window closes, there will also probably be at least one leaving us.