cowdenbeath Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Whilst I agree up to a point about the two situations being similar there is the small matter of article 13. Basically you need to gain permission to have dual interests. This was done in the Mike Ashley and Rangers case (although the conditions might not have been followed). As far as I am aware there was no permission asked for or given in the Rankine/ Livi/ East Fife case. Fair point Ashley was upfront about his dual shares while Rankine's interest in East Fife was hidden away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Almondvale is by a distance the best of the "new build" stadiums in the league. It's an excellent ground.But it is Almondvale that attracts the charlatans. It is ripe for development and any lease holder would be in line for substantial compensation when they get kicked out.Livingston can't support a professional team above 4th level at best. Better to chuck it and support Livi United, crowds of a few hundred would transform them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Fair point Ashley was upfront about his dual shares while Rankine's interest in East Fife was hidden away.Not really, it was well known, the authorities just chose to ignore it for years. Rankine, Barr, Gray, Stevenson, among others ran a football cartel for years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 All fair points. And yes the charge against Livi is for misrepresentation of it not just the fact of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faither Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Livi will do a deal with creditors at the end of the season and will convert into community club with stakeholders including the trust, wlc andsome others. Anyone owning shares or with soft loans will lose virtually everything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylivi1 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Livi will do a deal with creditors at the end of the season and will convert into community club with stakeholders including the trust, wlc andsome others. Anyone owning shares or with soft loans will lose virtually everything. There has been talk of community ownership for a while now, this is exactly the way we should go in order to live within our means. Get rid of the charlatans and run the club the way it should be, if this means dropping down a division, struggling on the park I don't really care as long as Livi are a team that I can go and watch week in week out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewing up a storm Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 There has been talk of community ownership for a while now, this is exactly the way we should go in order to live within our means. Get rid of the charlatans and run the club the way it should be, if this means dropping down a division, struggling on the park I don't really care as long as Livi are a team that I can go and watch week in week out. I'm a big fan of community ownership and supporter trusts but given that there was supporter involvement on the board over the last few years (arguably raising the question perhaps not of complicity in some of the recent goings-on but certainly of ability) I'd suggest there needs to be an honest reassessment by those involved and by those pushing community ownership of what the hell they were doing before there is any automatic assumptions that community ownership will actually work... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Livi will do a deal with creditors at the end of the season and will convert into community club with stakeholders including the trust, wlc andsome others. Anyone owning shares or with soft loans will lose virtually everything.The problem with this theory is that the creditors and the shareholders are one and the same. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
distresseduke Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Yes, Livi deserve another shot at it. Yes I think it's wrong the way the have been run as well I was merely trying to suggest a way forward 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PELE Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Livingston's record against the beasts of Fife Won 10, Lost 1, Drawn 3. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoudaBetsy Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Livingston will play Celtic in a friendly tomorrow afternoon featuring a few trialists. Two or three signings expected by Saturday. At Lennoxtown: 1PM kick off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginge123 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Seems Ogelby has left as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland-Roma Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Names of Livingston's trialists? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozam76 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 According to the Metro the SPFL are going to investigate into Rankine and his dual interests, in the wake of the SFA decision last week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginge123 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Yay! What a fucking club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoudaBetsy Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Names of Livingston's trialists? Not heard any names, it's closed door friendly. Will say the score/scorers if I hear anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginge123 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Game was cancelled due to bad weather. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland-Roma Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Apparently there was a bounce game! With 5 trialists!! Game was cancelled due to bad weather. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoudaBetsy Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Apparently there was a bounce game! With 5 trialists!!Game was cancelled due to bad weather. Abandoned after 30 mins. 3 trialists played. 1 sub Trialist I think. At livi astro vs alloa u20s tonight. (Behind stadium). 1 trialist looked like Gozie Ugwu. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Ugwu was harshly let go at the Pars. He was our top scorer but was a bit raw in terms of fouling and positional play. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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