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1 hour ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

What happens if two people with double-barrelled surnames have a child?

I've been wondering that since half the England side went back to having them. I imagine they all had double-barrelled names in the 19th century until the oiks got involved.

The Spanish include the mother and father's surnames in their children's names; I believe the mother's surname comes first? I could be wrong on this, but I think their child's surname includes the part of their name that matched their gender. So the mother will pass on the feminine part of her mother's surname, and the father passes on the masculine part of his father's surname. So, Marion Koch-Smith and Jeffrey Badger-Nocker would have a daughter with the surname Koch-Nocker. I may well be misremembering that, though.

Surely you're as well making up something new by that point, although we'd just end up in a world filled with Noah Ironman and Krystal Kardashians.

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11 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said:

What happened to our Gabonese (or is it Gabonian?) air valve friend?

I fear they may have been Lee Wallace'd by some fearful rogue. Perhaps one of those awful Cameroonian water spigot fellows.

I wonder which side has the support of Celtic.

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20 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said:

What happened to our Gabonese (or is it Gabonian?) air valve friend?

He made millions selling air valves to Scottish football fans and now lives in a beachfront mansion.

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3 hours ago, Richey Edwards said:

What happened to our Gabonese (or is it Gabonian?) air valve friend?

 

2 hours ago, BFTD said:

I fear they may have been Lee Wallace'd by some fearful rogue. Perhaps one of those awful Cameroonian water spigot fellows.

 

I wonder which side has the support of Celtic.

Which one of a Gabonese air valve supplier or a Cameroonian water spigot manufacturer is most likely to be downtrodden, brutalised and oppressed? That one.

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14 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

Why does AI struggle so much with hands when generating images?

It's probably something to do with the number of joints and the flexibility of hands in general - it must be hard for them to get an idea of what a 'hand' actually looks like, considering you won't always see the whole thing, they're often concealed behind things they're holding, and the overall shape can look drastically different. I wonder if they have difficulty with spiders and their legs too (one for @KnightswoodBear to experiment with).

Quite why they struggle with the idea that most people have four fingers and one thumb on each hand is a bit weird, though. Maybe they've been trained by using pictures from places like Fife and West Virginia.

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16 hours ago, BFTD said:

I've been wondering that since half the England side went back to having them. I imagine they all had double-barrelled names in the 19th century until the oiks got involved.

The Spanish include the mother and father's surnames in their children's names; I believe the mother's surname comes first? I could be wrong on this, but I think their child's surname includes the part of their name that matched their gender. So the mother will pass on the feminine part of her mother's surname, and the father passes on the masculine part of his father's surname. So, Marion Koch-Smith and Jeffrey Badger-Nocker would have a daughter with the surname Koch-Nocker. I may well be misremembering that, though.

Surely you're as well making up something new by that point, although we'd just end up in a world filled with Noah Ironman and Krystal Kardashians.

Here in the Philippines all new-borns are given their mother's maiden name as a middle name and when a female marries the mother's maiden names is dropped and replaced with her own maiden name.  Interestingly, it's also a way to identify children born without a father as they have no middle name otherwise their middle name and surname would be the same.  

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1 hour ago, hk blues said:

Here in the Philippines all new-borns are given their mother's maiden name as a middle name and when a female marries the mother's maiden names is dropped and replaced with her own maiden name.  Interestingly, it's also a way to identify children born without a father as they have no middle name otherwise their middle name and surname would be the same.  

I have/had a few relatives who were given prior generations' surnames as middle names - not sure if that was a common thing, but it certainly seems to have died off in popularity.

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Just now, BFTD said:

I have/had a few relatives who were given prior generations' surnames as middle names - not sure if that was a common thing, but it certainly seems to have died off in popularity.

One of my middle names is my mum's maiden name but that was more to do with including both my grandads' names in my full name.

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4 minutes ago, BFTD said:

I have/had a few relatives who were given prior generations' surnames as middle names - not sure if that was a common thing, but it certainly seems to have died off in popularity.

As an aside, in the UK if a child is born and the parents are not married the child would be considered illegitimate, of course.  But, if the parents subsequently marry does the child become legitimate?  Here. nope - we would have to go through a legal process to legitimise the birth.   I haven't bothered as it's a PITA and serves no purpose as my son is an only child so no inheritance issues etc.  

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3 minutes ago, hk blues said:

As an aside, in the UK if a child is born and the parents are not married the child would be considered illegitimate, of course.  But, if the parents subsequently marry does the child become legitimate?  Here. nope - we would have to go through a legal process to legitimise the birth.   I haven't bothered as it's a PITA and serves no purpose as my son is an only child so no inheritance issues etc.  

It's just so bizarre that anyone still gives a damn about parentage, frankly.

I guess eugenics is making a comeback, so perhaps bloodlines will regain importance here too.

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47 minutes ago, hk blues said:

One of my middle names is my mum's maiden name but that was more to do with including both my grandads' names in my full name.

Very common in my parents generation. 

In mine, the middle name seems most commonly to be the first name of a favoured relative or grandparent. 

It's a f**king free for all with younger folk. My brother's kids and my step-daughter's kids all have middle names that have no relation to anybody. The parents just liked the name so stuck it in. In my step-daughter's case, she said she liked two names, couldn't decide which one to give the lad, so gave him both. Weirdos. This is apparently quite common. 

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6 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

Very common in my parents generation. 

In mine, the middle name seems most commonly to be the first name of a favoured relative or grandparent. 

It's a f**king free for all with younger folk. My brother's kids and my step-daughter's kids all have middle names that have no relation to anybody. The parents just liked the name so stuck it in. In my step-daughter's case, she said she liked two names, couldn't decide which one to give the lad, so gave him both. Weirdos. This is apparently quite common. 

From my memory, it was mostly males who were given middle names - maybe different these days.  

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2 hours ago, scottsdad said:

Very common in my parents generation. 

In mine, the middle name seems most commonly to be the first name of a favoured relative or grandparent. 

It's a f**king free for all with younger folk. My brother's kids and my step-daughter's kids all have middle names that have no relation to anybody. The parents just liked the name so stuck it in. In my step-daughter's case, she said she liked two names, couldn't decide which one to give the lad, so gave him both. Weirdos. This is apparently quite common. 

We hadn’t thought about a middle name for Jr v1 until the lady from the State who came round to register the birth the morning after she arrived asked us if we had any middle names. We didn’t have our social security cards with us either so the lady said she’d need them and she’d be back tomorrow, so have them and any middle names we wanted to give our daughter. The wee white skull cap the hospital put on babies made her look a bit like the Pope, so I suggested Frances. Nobody thought of anything better so that’s what she got. 

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