HoBNob Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/victims-fury-bat-thug-footballer-8913959 Especially a team like Dunfermline. Passing me the keys to the roflcopter, needs a spin. He'll fit in well with Davidson and Benedictus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Raith normally lead the way in the showing class stakes but this seems pretty distasteful given the circumstances of the attack and the lack of remorse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 7 months and out. I can see why they have little faith in the criminal justice system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) Its a poor trait of football teams and certainly not just Raith that when it comes to signing a footballer if they feel that their getting a decent signing on the cheap it doesnt seem to matter how much baggage their carrying with them. I'm sure we'll get the usual he deserves a second chance bullshit that noone else in society seems to get. Look at Paul McGowan for instance. How many times has he assaulted a copper whilst at a club and yet he's still getting chances as he's seen as too important a player to lose for hee haw. If he'd had a normal run of the mill job he'd have been fired on the spot well before now. Hopefully Raith will recover their senses and bid him on his way. Edited September 26, 2016 by Shadwell Dog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Passing me the keys to the roflcopter, needs a spin. He'll fit in well with Davidson and Benedictus. What did bene do? Excuse my ignorance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 What did bene do? Excuse my ignorance. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/dundee-football-star-kyle-benedictus-1098406The three of them played at Dundee together at the same time and Gallagher looked by far the most promising player of the three. If it wasn't for the baggage he's carrying he'd have moved to a bigger club than us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Cheers ludo. At least bene seems to have learned from it in so much that he is our vice captain etc. Gallacher can do one though. I think with these things you have to think, how would I react? And what was the actual situation that led to this happening. It seems from that (to me at least) bene was maybe drunk having broken up with his Mrs, found a couple blokes in her house when he went and lost it. Possibly even provoked to an extent. Gallacher is very much a pre meditated incident and as much shows he's a bell end that we should show the (cell) door to asap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I don't think know about anyone else, but I'm now convinced that our defensive options are now more than adequate and we don't need any more players there. Many footballers have committed crimes, but the nature of this one leaves me particularly cold - I would much prefer we have no association with Gallacher beyond the one we appear to have had (which I'm also uncomfortable about). Not pleased at all to have found this out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 If it's a three year sentence then he'd normally expect to service eighteen months of it; he's now served ten months (in two spells) - from my limited knowledge of the system it doesn't seem abnormal or unreasonable that he should be allowed day release for placements. So I'm pretty sceptical of the claim that he's getting special treatment - and by and large I'm happy to encourage such rehabilitative schemes. There's issues over and beyond that with someone going straight back into a high-profile job on their release, though, which I imagine we'd all have some pretty serious concerns about. Anyone know in what capacity he's with us at the moment? Is he training with the squad? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers1992/1993 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 If it's a three year sentence then he'd normally expect to service eighteen months of it; he's now served ten months (in two spells) - from my limited knowledge of the system it doesn't seem abnormal or unreasonable that he should be allowed day release for placements. So I'm pretty sceptical of the claim that he's getting special treatment - and by and large I'm happy to encourage such rehabilitative schemes. There's issues over and beyond that with someone going straight back into a high-profile job on their release, though, which I imagine we'd all have some pretty serious concerns about. Anyone know in what capacity he's with us at the moment? Is he training with the squad? I'm not sure how this has only came about now as he's actually been traning with the squad for about 5-6 weeks now.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz80 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Would like to see a picture of this "trendy" haircut mentioned by the victims partner before I commit myself to an opinion on this matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 8 hours ago, Poet of the Macabre said: All joking aside, Raith Rovers are a good club, supported by good people. It's therefore important that you guys let the directors know this guy is not welcome. He's a vicious thug. Dunfermline were a good club,supported by good people,surely it was important that supporters and fellow directors let Masterton know,wracking up debt , shafting local businesses and the tax payer would cause misery and is not welcome 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Rovers1992/1993 said: I'm not sure how this has only came about now as he's actually been traning with the squad for about 5-6 weeks now.. All training for the last few weeks has been in the dark to keep the secret. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 We did, hence why we saved the club. Happy to help.Genuine question but at what point is it OK and not ok to take a player with previous convictions? Benedictus and Davidson as mentioned have both fallen foul of the law but I presume by the lack of burning effigies they're ok, Gallagher not ok?Don't get me wrong what Gallagher done is pretty vile but at what time can football clubs start shunning a player due to his previous? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Suppose it's a bit subjective based on harm caused and the nature of he crime etc. Obviously no-one wants a nonce at their club, but assaults seem a bit of a grey area. My opinions on Davidson are well known, though I'd have to say his was probably minor enough that it can be overlooked. The sheriff admonished him as well, so he can't have caused the victim too much harm (unlike Gallacher). I can forgive scuffles in clubs, but can't see anyone who assaults another with a baseball bat as anything other than a violent thug we should avoid. I guess ultimately it's up to the club. Much as my opinion of Gallacher is muck, that isn't a reason to completely strike him out of society all together. I would however rather that his shot at redemption was not with Raith Rovers. And yes, I do recognise that is a bit hypocritical. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I'm not sure how this has only came about now as he's actually been traning with the squad for about 5-6 weeks now.. Ah well. At least the reason for our recent run of training ground injuries is now clear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachbum Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 U20s 3-0 up at Alloa if anyone's interested. Updates here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpy Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 In other news, the development squad is 2-0 up away to Alloa. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpy Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Alright then, 3-0. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 24 minutes ago, Michael W said: Suppose it's a bit subjective based on harm caused and the nature of he crime etc. Obviously no-one wants a nonce at their club, but assaults seem a bit of a grey area. My opinions on Davidson are well known, though I'd have to say his was probably minor enough that it can be overlooked. The sheriff admonished him as well, so he can't have caused the victim too much harm (unlike Gallacher). I can forgive scuffles in clubs, but can't see anyone who assaults another with a baseball bat as anything other than a violent thug we should avoid. I guess ultimately it's up to the club. Much as my opinion of Gallacher is muck, that isn't a reason to completely strike him out of society all together. I would however rather that his shot at redemption was not with Raith Rovers. And yes, I do recognise that is a bit hypocritical. I've known some great people who've done some daft stuff when they were young, and I've employed people with criminal records. And I certainly don't believe it's in anyone's interest to write people off and not allow them to get on with their lives again. But football is not like other jobs. Each case on its merits, depending not just on the nature and severity of the crime but also how they've behaved and responded to it since. I wouldn't have Ched Evans anywhere near the club (nor indeed David Goodwillie). Pretty sceptical on Gallacher too but don't know as much about the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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