Rovers1992/1993 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Does anyone know when the draw for the 3rd round of the challenge cup is? The second round is played next midweek so the draw will be next Wednesday night/ Thursday afternoon I'd imagine.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz80 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 12 minutes ago, Rovers1992/1993 said: The second round is played next midweek so the draw will be next Wednesday night/ Thursday afternoon I'd imagine.. Christ I thought the second round had already been played. Trying to arrange something for that day but as tragic as it sounds I don't want to miss a cup tie at home. Thanks for that though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRFC1989 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Its funny how its announced that Bates goes to Rangers and everyone finds its weird. The next thing hes on the bench in a cup game and he becomes the next big thing. Im not having a go at the boy but i think some people need to calm their expectations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share Posted August 10, 2016 I don't think anyone has all of a sudden realised that they think Bates is decent because he got on the bench for Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 14 minutes ago, RRFC1989 said: Its funny how its announced that Bates goes to Rangers and everyone finds its weird. The next thing hes on the bench in a cup game and he becomes the next big thing. Im not having a go at the boy but i think some people need to calm their expectations. I don't think anyone's saying he's going to become the ginger Maldini. I think people are saying he's a reasonable prospect who could potentially go onto to have a solid career. Barry McKay wasn't stopped by many defenders last year, but Bates was one. If he can keep that form up, then other clubs who are larger than us will naturally be interested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSDR 88 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Jordan Thompson started for Rangers under 20s tonight in the Challenge Cup... As did Ryan Hardie. How does that work? I'd have thought if you went out on loan to a club then that's who you play for until the end of the loan/been recalled. I mean what if the Rangers u20's get through and then drawn against say St Mirren, who does Ryan Hardie then play for? The introduction of the u20's teams in the Challenge Cup is nonsense in my opinion anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, WSDR 88 said: How does that work? I'd have thought if you went out on loan to a club then that's who you play for until the end of the loan/been recalled. I mean what if the Rangers u20's get through and then drawn against say St Mirren, who does Ryan Hardie then play for? The introduction of the u20's teams in the Challenge Cup is nonsense in my opinion anyway. He is obviously on a Development loan for u20's qualified players rather than a standard or emergency loan. As such he can play for his parent club's u20 side in the Development League (and in the Irn Bru Cup) but can only play for the borrowing club at senior level. Cup tied rules still apply. If he's played for Rangers u20's in this then he can't play for St Mirren in it now. Even if he hadn't played for Rangers he wouldn't be allowed to play against them for St Mirren under the rules anyway (though he could in theory play for Rangers against St Mirren). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1RonnieCoyle Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Under20 development loans have stipulations, mainly that no fee is required (ie) percentage of wages, and they are availble for there parent clubs development squad. The confusion is now coming because of this daft challenge cup! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 3 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: He is obviously on a Development loan for u20's qualified players rather than a standard or emergency loan. As such he can play for his parent club's u20 side in the Development League (and in the Irn Bru Cup) but can only play for the borrowing club at senior level. Cup tied rules still apply. If he's played for Rangers u20's in this then he can't play for St Mirren in it now. Even if he hadn't played for Rangers he wouldn't be allowed to play against them for St Mirren under the rules anyway (though he could in theory play for Rangers against St Mirren). Let me check that I've got this right - Premier League sides have managed to force their way into the Challenge Cup on the supposed grounds that it enables their young players experience in senior football. They then recall the players they'e loaned out to senior sides to play for their own under-20s in that cup, in the process ruling them out of any chance of playing for the loaning club in the same competition? Right you are then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Just now, Yoss said: Let me check that I've got this right - Premier League sides have managed to force their way into the Challenge Cup on the supposed grounds that it enables their young players experience in senior football. They then recall the players they'e loaned out to senior sides to play for their own under-20s in that cup, in the process ruling them out of any chance of playing for the loaning club in the same competition? Right you are then. As far as I know the Premiership sides haven't "forced" their way into anything. They were invited and I've not heard any suggestion that it was at their own suggestion. Development loans have always allowed the player to continue to play 20's football for his parent club. Nothing new in that. It's their call if they think the boys benefit more by playing in one team or the other. As it should be. They always had the right to veto inclusion in cup ties anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: As far as I know the Premiership sides haven't "forced" their way into anything. They were invited and I've not heard any suggestion that it was at their own suggestion. They've been trying to get their Colt teams into the senior system in some form for years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRFC1989 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 This is ridiculous! This will become a huge story once a player gets injured whilst playing for the development team. Only a matter of time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I'm not overly pleased that our new midfielder played 90 minutes last night and will be in the squad again on Tuesday. What if he misses the Fife derby because he's fucking about with Rangers u20's? The Challenge Cup is an absolute shambles this season. I was going to say I'd be delighted if we played the u19's, but I suppose it would be worthwhile to get players like Osei, Coustrain, Roberts, Robertson etc a competitive game. An all round shambles. I'd love to say I won't be going but no doubt we'll draw the Pars and I'll feel compelled to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) I won't be going. I have no interest at all in it. edit: unless we get drawn away in Wales or something silly, in which case I might think about it. Edited August 11, 2016 by Yoss 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachbum Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Locke on Bates' move in today's FFP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICMAC Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 The more I see the new away strip the more I like it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC_Lachlan Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I think I'm in the minority who thinks the new away kit looks tidy as anything, specially the long sleeve version. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Sandy Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Just noticed that young Bates is on the bench again for Sevco against Dundee at Dens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I'll join the love in for the away kit undecided at first but really like it now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Beat the Pars next week. Then United. We're gonna win the league! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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