scottsdad Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 hours ago, BFTD said: It seems like everyone has a story about some useless/outright criminal fud rocking up at their work, with the obligatory phone call to the former employer ending with, "ha, they're your problem now, sucker!" I don't disbelieve them at all. People lie like f**k about work, and some employers can be pretty lazy about background checks. I was told on my first day to bring in my certificates. Nobody asked to see them. To this day nobody at my work has any evidence other than my word that I have any qualifications. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 7 hours ago, BFTD said: I remember you mentioning that before - sometimes I get the impression that academia must be so dull that lecturers would start a genital mutilation club just to break the ennui New members always welcome. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Melanius Mullarkay said: New members always welcome. Underrated post imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I remember one time when a member of the wife swapping club was Head of School. There was some sort of meeting with the lecturers and it must have gone badly. One lecturer walking down the corridor afterwards , seething, and shouting loudly enough for everyone to hear about the "wife swapping Aberdonian twat". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 hours ago, scottsdad said: I remember one time when a member of the wife swapping club was Head of School. There was some sort of meeting with the lecturers and it must have gone badly. One lecturer walking down the corridor afterwards , seething, and shouting loudly enough for everyone to hear about the "wife swapping Aberdonian twat". His application to join the club obviously blackballed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 50 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said: His application to join the club obviously blackballed. was he previously in Daves genital mutilation club? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Fourteen disciplinary hearings this week. Most are little ones, slap on the wrist, resit and attend a special class. One is the most serious I've come across and the harshest penalty we gave (or can give in the rules). Knackering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Fourteen disciplinary hearings this week. Most are little ones, slap on the wrist, resit and attend a special class. One is the most serious I've come across and the harshest penalty we gave (or can give in the rules). Knackering. Aye, well spill the feckin' beans you cockteasy bassa............................ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said: Aye, well spill the feckin' beans you cockteasy bassa............................ Long and complicated story. In essence it was contract cheating. Both he and another student at another uni bought the same dissertation and submitted them a few days apart. But our chap (who submitted first) claimed that he sent a late draft to his supervisor - a member of staff here - and that supervisor must have sold on or shared his dissertation with this other student. A very serious allegation as I'm sure you can imagine. I had to do the investigation as the case lead, getting files and raw data and so on. His story just didn't stand up (this other student apparently corrected a few mistakes he made as well). We had 3 hearings with him. In the final one we told him straight that we know it was contract cheating, we know where he got it from, know the website, know the original file (which i got a copy of), we know he lied previously. We told him that if he was honest and came clean we would take it into account. But no, he stuck like glue to his story that someone stole or shared his file (which was utter shite to be honest) and he really did do all the work himself. Loads more to this case than what I have put here but this is the rub. Expelled, obviously, with every single course he ever did wiped out also. We could not be any harsher. On a separate case, a student used Chegg for an exam paper and got the sizzling score of 3/100 from their "expert answers" In both cases students paid good money to buy utter garbage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, scottsdad said: On a separate case, a student used Chegg for an exam paper and got the sizzling score of 3/100 from their "expert answers" Information retrieval from the wrong reference site imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, scottsdad said: Loads more to this case than what I have put here but this is the rub. Expelled, obviously, with every single course he ever did wiped out also. We could not be any harsher. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, scottsdad said: Expelled, obviously, with every single course he ever did wiped out also. We could not be any harsher. Good. Hope the staff member was well supported. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Let’s hope the lecturer doesn’t bump into him in the street, for both their sakes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, scottsdad said: Long and complicated story. In essence it was contract cheating. Both he and another student at another uni bought the same dissertation and submitted them a few days apart. But our chap (who submitted first) claimed that he sent a late draft to his supervisor - a member of staff here - and that supervisor must have sold on or shared his dissertation with this other student. A very serious allegation as I'm sure you can imagine. I had to do the investigation as the case lead, getting files and raw data and so on. His story just didn't stand up (this other student apparently corrected a few mistakes he made as well). We had 3 hearings with him. In the final one we told him straight that we know it was contract cheating, we know where he got it from, know the website, know the original file (which i got a copy of), we know he lied previously. We told him that if he was honest and came clean we would take it into account. But no, he stuck like glue to his story that someone stole or shared his file (which was utter shite to be honest) and he really did do all the work himself. Loads more to this case than what I have put here but this is the rub. Expelled, obviously, with every single course he ever did wiped out also. We could not be any harsher. On a separate case, a student used Chegg for an exam paper and got the sizzling score of 3/100 from their "expert answers" In both cases students paid good money to buy utter garbage. Why do that? Why not just say, right stuff the dissertation I'll take the ordinary degree and go on my way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 14 hours ago, RH33 said: Why do that? Why not just say, right stuff the dissertation I'll take the ordinary degree and go on my way. This was a postgraduate student. Had he fessed up and shown some remorse, we would have allowed him to keep either a postgraduate diploma or a postgraduate certificate. As it is, 2 years of his life up in smoke. On @mathematics point, the lecturer was well supported. She was bemused by the whole thing. We never believed for a second she did anything wrong, and I think she knew that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 As of this month I have finally paid off my student loans. Only took 20 odd years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, Ross. said: As of this month I have finally paid off my student loans. Only took 20 odd years. It’s a nice feeling, isn’t it? In my first job, I was paying £3 a month back as £21 a month was being added in interest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, mathematics said: It’s a nice feeling, isn’t it? In my first job, I was paying £3 a month back as £21 a month was being added in interest. The way I’m looking at it, it’s basically a 300 or so quid a month pay rise. If I’d remained in the UK I’d likely never have paid it off, and I’m still not sure if I made the right decision to let them catch up with me over here, there was basically a 5 or 6 year period where they had absolutely f**k all idea where I was or how to get my money off me. After deciding I was staying here until I leave in a box, I thought I better tie up the lose ends that could f**k that plan up for me down the line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 When do you start paying interest on the student loan? And what rate is it now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, scottsdad said: This was a postgraduate student. Had he fessed up and shown some remorse, we would have allowed him to keep either a postgraduate diploma or a postgraduate certificate. As it is, 2 years of his life up in smoke. On @mathematics point, the lecturer was well supported. She was bemused by the whole thing. We never believed for a second she did anything wrong, and I think she knew that. Crazy. When I decided my MH couldn't take any more studying the course director was brilliant and made sure I left with a DipHE so my work wasn't wasted. Wasn't much practical use but gave me academic credits when I went on to finish a general BA with the OU. Utter lunacy (arrogant maybe too) not to engage and cheat instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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