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[Derry Alli]

If only that was real.

[welshbairn]

Not exactly the same clips from the show, but probably true.

[bennett]

 

[Sweet Pete]

[Derry Alli]

I'm sorry.

If I've had to watch it, you all do too.

 

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said:

I'm sorry.

If I've had to watch it, you all do too.

 

 

All of these children have the same face.

[IrishBhoy]

On 13/10/2022 at 09:05, The Moonster said:

I think this is where a lot of poker players are going wrong - thinking that every player will do things sensibly and by the book. A lot of "you just don't call with a hand like that" going on but she said herself that a lot of men will bluff her thinking she's an idiot (which might be true) so she might be more empowered to make silly calls.

 

On 14/10/2022 at 09:25, HEY_SIDNEY said:

Well the plot thickens for Robbi and Garrett.
Robbi passed the lie detector test but admitted to soft playing against RIP (Shock)
Of course everyone will moan about which Lie Detector company was used etc so she will never really 'win' out of that scenario but i suppose a sense of relief if anything to know she has been telling, on whole, the truth.

I’ve still been following the story along and I don’t particularly give too much weight to the lie detector test. 
 

To @The Moonster, I agree with what you are saying generally, but when analysing her decisions pre flop, post flop etc., can you make an argument for her continuing in that position? If I was playing a 0.01/0.02 cash game on pokerstars, and I got raised in a similar fashion as she did on that flop with J4 offsuit, I would be folding. To call $135,000 with J high on a paired board with two clubs is putting yourself into such a negative EV position that it should just never be considered, either at high stakes or micro stakes. 
 

[Edit] Just to expand on this, I seen a Twitter account that gave equity percentages of Garrets all in shove range against Robbis J4off post flop. Being generous and putting Garret on a range of top set, trips, over pairs, a straight flush draw, flush draw and straight draws (all of which were highly likely on a TT9 board 2 clubs), put her J4 as a 9% underdog. Now obviously you’ve got to factor in other circumstances such as her holding the J of clubs which blocked the top straight flush, but that board texture was ripe for lower straights as well as A high flushes. With 2 cards still to turn she was continuing against that board, that’s what I can’t get my head around. There was hardly a card in the deck that improved her hand, and she would have been well aware that the majority of turns and rivers have her in a ridiculously difficult spot. The sort of spot where she had absolutely no shove equity to make Garret fold a better hand, seeing as he had already led post flop and turn. It’s literally the easiest fold of her life and she’s called with J high, when even the majority of Garretts bluffing range has her beat never mind his shove betting for value range. Even forgetting everything she had ever learned about pot odds, putting $130k in to win a $270k pot, with J high, against Garretts shoving range which has you as a 10/1 underdog is such a ridiculous position to get yourself into that I can fully understand the cheating allegations. If I done something like that at The Grosvenor casino on a Tuesday night I would be expecting someone to query it, never mind it happening on a live stream at a table with Phil Ivey. 
(Although that’s one thing that has always pushed me towards thinking that she didn’t cheat. If she was going to cheat at Hustlers Casino, I think she would have been able to find a better spot than the night where Phil Ivey was at the table?)
 

Another thing that caught my attention was that the guy RIP was apparently bankrolling her whilst she was playing these Hustler streams. If she is as wealthy as she claims to be, why would she need staked to play in these sort of games? And also, why would someone voluntarily put money in to a person who has only been playing the game for 2 years? So many questions that I’m sure we will never get the answer to. 
 

I was playing a tournament on GG poker during the week, where I raised pre flop with pocket Kings. The flop came J4Q and my first thought was has someone called me with J4. Barrelled to the river and of course the player ended up having J4 off suit. I am directly losing money because of Robbi’s bad decisions. 

Edited October 21, 2022 by IrishBhoy

[HEY_SIDNEY]

15 minutes ago, IrishBhoy said:

 

I’ve still been following the story along and I don’t particularly give too much weight to the lie detector test. 
 

To @The Moonster, I agree with what you are saying generally, but when analysing her decisions pre flop, post flop etc., can you make an argument for her continuing in that position? If I was playing a 0.01/0.02 cash game on pokerstars, and I got raised in a similar fashion as she did on that flop with J4 offsuit, I would be folding. To call $135,000 with J high on a paired board with two clubs is putting yourself into such a negative EV position that it should just never be considered, either at high stakes or micro stakes. 
 

Another thing that caught my attention was that the guy RIP was apparently bankrolling her whilst she was playing these Hustler streams. If she is as wealthy as she claims to be, why would she need staked to play in these sort of games? And also, why would someone voluntarily put money in to a person who has only been playing the game for 2 years? So many questions that I’m sure we will never get the answer to. 
 

I was playing a tournament on GG poker during the week, where I raised pre flop with pocket Kings. The flop came J4Q and my first thought was has someone called me with J4. Barrelled to the river and of course the player ended up having J4 off suit. I am directly losing money because of Robbi’s bad decisions. 

It feels like the Doyle Brunson hand idea that people will play it, just this willbe a short time thing(hopefully) 

boy tried it on my online club other night whilst i was watching and got picked off for £100/£120 bluff. 

let’s get back to Poker After Dark

[IrishBhoy]

58 minutes ago, HEY_SIDNEY said:

It feels like the Doyle Brunson hand idea that people will play it, just this willbe a short time thing(hopefully) 

boy tried it on my online club other night whilst i was watching and got picked off for £100/£120 bluff. 

let’s get back to Poker After Dark

If she had played the hand aggressively as a total bluff then I would be putting some respect on her name. But once she calls pre flop, then min raises Garrets 10k bet on the turn and calls an all in shove? I’m not the most experienced poker player out there, but even I would be reading her as weak on a board that has straight and flush potential. 
 

Im in the middle of reading Doyle Brunsons first Super System book. It’s quite the read. Was it yourself that said you have a poker community on the go? If you’re happy to send me over the details by PM on here I wouldn’t mind joining in. 

[Swarley]

Christ, that's no one on here is it?

[The Moonster]

7 hours ago, IrishBhoy said:

 

I’ve still been following the story along and I don’t particularly give too much weight to the lie detector test. 
 

To @The Moonster, I agree with what you are saying generally, but when analysing her decisions pre flop, post flop etc., can you make an argument for her continuing in that position? If I was playing a 0.01/0.02 cash game on pokerstars, and I got raised in a similar fashion as she did on that flop with J4 offsuit, I would be folding. To call $135,000 with J high on a paired board with two clubs is putting yourself into such a negative EV position that it should just never be considered, either at high stakes or micro stakes. 
 

[Edit] Just to expand on this, I seen a Twitter account that gave equity percentages of Garrets all in shove range against Robbis J4off post flop. Being generous and putting Garret on a range of top set, trips, over pairs, a straight flush draw, flush draw and straight draws (all of which were highly likely on a TT9 board 2 clubs), put her J4 as a 9% underdog. Now obviously you’ve got to factor in other circumstances such as her holding the J of clubs which blocked the top straight flush, but that board texture was ripe for lower straights as well as A high flushes. With 2 cards still to turn she was continuing against that board, that’s what I can’t get my head around. There was hardly a card in the deck that improved her hand, and she would have been well aware that the majority of turns and rivers have her in a ridiculously difficult spot. The sort of spot where she had absolutely no shove equity to make Garret fold a better hand, seeing as he had already led post flop and turn. It’s literally the easiest fold of her life and she’s called with J high, when even the majority of Garretts bluffing range has her beat never mind his shove betting for value range. Even forgetting everything she had ever learned about pot odds, putting $130k in to win a $270k pot, with J high, against Garretts shoving range which has you as a 10/1 underdog is such a ridiculous position to get yourself into that I can fully understand the cheating allegations. If I done something like that at The Grosvenor casino on a Tuesday night I would be expecting someone to query it, never mind it happening on a live stream at a table with Phil Ivey. 
(Although that’s one thing that has always pushed me towards thinking that she didn’t cheat. If she was going to cheat at Hustlers Casino, I think she would have been able to find a better spot than the night where Phil Ivey was at the table?)
 

Another thing that caught my attention was that the guy RIP was apparently bankrolling her whilst she was playing these Hustler streams. If she is as wealthy as she claims to be, why would she need staked to play in these sort of games? And also, why would someone voluntarily put money in to a person who has only been playing the game for 2 years? So many questions that I’m sure we will never get the answer to. 
 

I was playing a tournament on GG poker during the week, where I raised pre flop with pocket Kings. The flop came J4Q and my first thought was has someone called me with J4. Barrelled to the river and of course the player ended up having J4 off suit. I am directly losing money because of Robbi’s bad decisions. 

I can't make a case for how she played it, I fold that every time (or raise it aggressively if I'm a few cans down). Her being close with Rip is definitely a bit off but again, I know f**k all about these people so I can't judge if spotting money to someone you're shagging to play high stakes poker is the done thing for them. Its a mental hand of poker. 

[IrishBhoy]

30 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

I can't make a case for how she played it, I fold that every time (or raise it aggressively if I'm a few cans down). Her being close with Rip is definitely a bit off but again, I know f**k all about these people so I can't judge if spotting money to someone you're shagging to play high stakes poker is the done thing for them. Its a mental hand of poker. 

Aye the fact that it’s so mental makes me think that nobody in their right mind would try to cheat in that spot. But if you think that, then you need to believe that she genuinely went all in with J4o on that board  which is equally mental. 
 

I seen she had been getting coached by a pretty high profile guy out in LV, who was quick to come out and defend her. I don’t know what he charges for his coaching but he must have taken a hit after having one of his clients involved in such a high profile hand which was played so, so badly. 
 

I don’t know much about the guy Rip either apart from learning that he is involved in Jake Paul’s promotional company, and may even have the title of Jake Paul’s manager. Apparently he was the funding behind Robbi playing the HCL streams, and that was why he was so angry when Garrett accepted the money being refunded. There is a clip where he comes back to the table and starts shouting about how Garrett ‘cornered her and took his money back’. I actually think Garrett is completely in the wrong by holding on to the money, as whilst there is no hard proof of cheating he was beat on the felt, and until cheating can be proven Robbi won the hand with J high. Apparently he’s gave the full amount to a charity which is quite poor imo, even if he didn’t want to give the money directly to Robbi it should have been placed in a neutral account until such time there was hard evidence either way. 

[Sweet Pete]

4 hours ago, Swarley said:

21 hours ago, Sweet Pete said:

Christ, that's no one on here is it?

Don't believe so. Newcastle fan.

[The Moonster]

1 hour ago, IrishBhoy said:

Aye the fact that it’s so mental makes me think that nobody in their right mind would try to cheat in that spot. But if you think that, then you need to believe that she genuinely went all in with J4o on that board  which is equally mental. 
 

I seen she had been getting coached by a pretty high profile guy out in LV, who was quick to come out and defend her. I don’t know what he charges for his coaching but he must have taken a hit after having one of his clients involved in such a high profile hand which was played so, so badly. 
 

I don’t know much about the guy Rip either apart from learning that he is involved in Jake Paul’s promotional company, and may even have the title of Jake Paul’s manager. Apparently he was the funding behind Robbi playing the HCL streams, and that was why he was so angry when Garrett accepted the money being refunded. There is a clip where he comes back to the table and starts shouting about how Garrett ‘cornered her and took his money back’. I actually think Garrett is completely in the wrong by holding on to the money, as whilst there is no hard proof of cheating he was beat on the felt, and until cheating can be proven Robbi won the hand with J high. Apparently he’s gave the full amount to a charity which is quite poor imo, even if he didn’t want to give the money directly to Robbi it should have been placed in a neutral account until such time there was hard evidence either way. 

It could very much be the case that it's 3 scumbags trying to out-scumbag the other scumbags. Reputations of all 3 definitely tarnished after it.

[Cosmic Joe]

21 hours ago, Sweet Pete said:

Shocking lack of punctuation. 

[HEY_SIDNEY]

Robbi is/was being coached by Faraz Jaka.

The Rip thing didnt initially bother me as i had assumed that he was one of these multi billionaire nutballs, but turns out to be he has a bit of dough behind him but not really enough to stake someone else those levels. Effectively buying two seats at nosebleedy stakes.

Sometimes people just make weird moves, make weird calls and just in general - play hands weird.

No where near the same level but i watched as 2 lower stakes players on one of the tables about a week ago got in to a strange spot.
Cash table, 5 handed 50p/£1 blinds
£340 effective stack
Raised utg by table loony to £4.50
Re raised by relatively experienced player in CO to £11
Everyone else folds except loony who repops to £40 flat and is called.
£81.50 pot

Flop A 4 5 rainbow.

Loony checks, CO bets £34, loony raises all in and CO snaps.
Pot is now around £630

2 hands flipped
Loony 89 clubs
CO KQ off.

CO wins King High

Go figure.

Edited October 21, 2022 by HEY_SIDNEY

[ICTChris]

I’m reading all these posts and understanding about a quarter of it. I like reading them though.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

13 hours ago, Mr. Alli said:

I'm sorry.

If I've had to watch it, you all do too.

 

 

Strong step brothers vibes. 
 

Saw another one where they did a paid for video to ‘the house of the rising sun’ for ‘Visit Kissimmee’ never wanted to visit Kissimmee less than after watching it. 

Edited October 21, 2022 by Inanimate Carbon Rod

[KD1711]

4 hours ago, HEY_SIDNEY said:

Robbi is/was being coached by Faraz Jaka.

The Rip thing didnt initially bother me as i had assumed that he was one of these multi billionaire nutballs, but turns out to be he has a bit of dough behind him but not really enough to stake someone else those levels. Effectively buying two seats at nosebleedy stakes.

Sometimes people just make weird moves, make weird calls and just in general - play hands weird.

No where near the same level but i watched as 2 lower stakes players on one of the tables about a week ago got in to a strange spot.
Cash table, 5 handed 50p/£1 blinds
£340 effective stack
Raised utg by table loony to £4.50
Re raised by relatively experienced player in CO to £11
Everyone else folds except loony who repops to £40 flat and is called.
£81.50 pot

Flop A 4 5 rainbow.

Loony checks, CO bets £34, loony raises all in and CO snaps.
Pot is now around £630

2 hands flipped
Loony 89 clubs
CO KQ off.

CO wins King High

Go figure.

Nothing will beat that specky guy who used to play poker in that club down the Romanian guys poker club (forget his name too) and the Reillys Tourneys, the taxi driver can't mind his name. He was in a 4 way hand everyone checks he goes all in. No one calls.

He shows a royal flush ahhaha. I think his name was Fin, looked like Ned Flanders.

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]