May 2011 Election

[importedsandpitt]

It's not even funny that this shower is about to be the next Scottish goverment.

Its like a big drunken shopping list. Where you buy all stuff that you don't need, and don't worry how it will be paid for.

Can someone more in the know than me, explain what the current position is with regards to the rail concessions. I wasn't aware that railcards/equivalent are only valid at certain times.

[importedsandpitt]

taken from the TAMB.

David Camerons latest attempt to appeal to Scots http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00vn4rk/The_Daily_Politics_27_10_2010/

47 mins in.

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taken from the TAMB.

David Camerons latest attempt to appeal to Scots http://www.bbc.co.uk...ics_27_10_2010/

47 mins in.

Good ol' respect Agenda. Serious question asked about Scotland, flippant answer given, it seems we should be grateful for whatever crumbs our benevolent London Masters give us.

[importedsandpitt]

Yet more sleeze. Clear front page of the paper if it were a Tory/snp MP.

Expect the flithy press to leave this out.

http://newsnetscotland.com/politics/928-labour-and-the-smear-gone-wrong-#comments

[kiwififer]

They truly are the Nasty Party.

I saw what you did there, they were socialists in name as well

[importedsandpitt]

Nasty of not there will be hundreds of thousands conned into voting for labour. Because its what they do, what their parents did.

YET dont know their council tax bills will go up by on average

£700 every year!

They will be thousands poorer under labour.

[Law Stud]

Yet more sleeze. Clear front page of the paper if it were a Tory/snp MP.

Expect the flithy press to leave this out.

http://newsnetscotland.com/politics/928-labour-and-the-smear-gone-wrong-#comments

Meh.

I don't like Labour, and I don't like Wendy Alexander, but having read that article I don't like David Ferguson either. Can they not just have a fight?

[Reynard]

Nasty of not there will be hundreds of thousands conned into voting for labour. Because its what they do, what their parents did.

YET dont know their council tax bills will go up by on average

£700 every year!

They will be thousands poorer under labour.

Doubtful. And it's also a political weapon used by the socialists anyway. What will happen is that we will end up with capping. Like we had under the old rates system when the socialists decided to deliberately overspend. They can then use it as a way to fight the current government by claiming that they don't get enough funding for things blah de fucking blah.

Get these c***s up against a fucking wall and machine gunned. I'm sick of the b*****ds.

[importedsandpitt]

Doubtful. And it's also a political weapon used by the socialists anyway. What will happen is that we will end up with capping. Like we had under the old rates system when the socialists decided to deliberately overspend. They can then use it as a way to fight the current government by claiming that they don't get enough funding for things blah de fucking blah.

Get these c***s up against a fucking wall and machine gunned. I'm sick of the b*****ds.

Its not doubtful in the slightest. Labour will push through massive hikes in council tax so they can run policies giving 18 year olds a paper.

[Law Stud]

Its not doubtful in the slightest. Labour will push through massive hikes in council tax so they can run policies giving 18 year olds a paper.

It's a ridiculous idea - but then so is maintaining Library Services. They should go too.

[importedsandpitt]

It's a ridiculous idea - but then so is maintaining Library Services. They should go too.

Too far LS

[Reynard]

Its not doubtful in the slightest. Labour will push through massive hikes in council tax so they can run policies giving 18 year olds a paper.

Well the money councils get from central funding will no longer be ring fenced so its up to them entirely how and where they spend it. That seems fine to me. We should see bigger variations between councils in the amount they want to spunk away on rubbish. If Labour want to overspend as they always do and its going to fall on the local taxpayer in council tax hikes then it will be painful for some people who live in council areas with idiots at the helm I suppose. Maybe it will make peope think a bit more responsibly about how they cast their vote at council elections.

Theres no doubt at all that central government would have to step in and cap councils that are ripping the piss though. It had to be done in the eighties and it precipitated the change from the old rates system which was absolutely unfair, to the poll tax which then included people who previously contributed absolutely f**k all towards their local council. Thats why so many people were whining. They wanted to take but they didnt want to actually contribute anything.

Labour want to increase the amount they collect because it suits the left wing tossers to screw down people and to cause as much strife as possible while they then try to blame the government of the day for not giving them enough money "for essential services". If they go down that route then I fully expect their spending to be reigned in. I don't like central government doing that, but in a case like that I see that they have no choice.

[Ad Lib]

To me the instinctive solution is to cut central income tax, scrap Council Tax and let Councils set their own income tax levies and be responsible for bringing in the majority of the money they spend. Then people might take notice of some of the jobsworths at the bottom of the political chain who are the ones making some of the most wasteful decisions with the money they've stolen from them.

[importedsandpitt]

Well the money councils get from central funding will no longer be ring fenced so its up to them entirely how and where they spend it. That seems fine to me. We should see bigger variations between councils in the amount they want to spunk away on rubbish. If Labour want to overspend as they always do and its going to fall on the local taxpayer in council tax hikes then it will be painful for some people who live in council areas with idiots at the helm I suppose. Maybe it will make peope think a bit more responsibly about how they cast their vote at council elections.

Theres no doubt at all that central government would have to step in and cap councils that are ripping the piss though. It had to be done in the eighties and it precipitated the change from the old rates system which was absolutely unfair, to the poll tax which then included people who previously contributed absolutely f**k all towards their local council. Thats why so many people were whining. They wanted to take but they didnt want to actually contribute anything.

Labour want to increase the amount they collect because it suits the left wing tossers to screw down people and to cause as much strife as possible while they then try to blame the government of the day for not giving them enough money "for essential services". If they go down that route then I fully expect their spending to be reigned in. I don't like central government doing that, but in a case like that I see that they have no choice.

You seem unclear what will happen, its been agreed It will happen Labour will hike everyones Council tax to fund the newspapers, scapping parking fee's in their white elephant of PFI's, among others.

Even Labour have confirmed this, have you not been reading?

[Reynard]

You seem unclear what will happen, its been agreed It will happen Labour will hike everyones Council tax to fund the newspapers, scapping parking fee's in their white elephant of PFI's, among others.

Even Labour have confirmed this, have you not been reading?

I'm quite clear about what will happen. Did you not read what I wrote?

This is traditionally what Labour councils do when Labour is in opposition to the Tories. I don't know how old you are or whether you remember what has happened before or not. The worst offending Labour councils will end up capped. They will then blame everything on lack of funding. It's what they do best.

[Law Stud]

Too far LS

Come off it - no it isn't. I don't know why they continue to operate. After all there's no end of bargain book shops where you can buy a brand new copy of the book you want if you are that way inclined. What kind of person would use a library so he could borrow a book that another man has been flicking through whilst sitting on the toilet.

[SaltyTON]

SNP but due to education/employment swaying closer to the Greens.

SNP won my area by 48 votes from Labour in 2007, after a 6% shift away from Labour. Hopefully they can continue to gain from them!

The Tories got 18% which was a slight dip from previous elections!

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http://newsnetscotland.com/component/content/article/7-politics/935-labour-under-increasing-pressure-over-alcohol-minimum-pricing

Iain Gray’s Holyrood Labour group have come under huge pressure to back the Scottish government’s minimum price for alcohol proposal after a host of people from the medical profession, police and the arts world joined forces in order to sign a public statement calling for MSPs to support the SNPs bill. With days to go before the crucial Holyrood vote the British Medical Association Scotland has upped the pressure on Labour by taking out a full-page advert in a leading Scottish newspaper to demonstrate the widespread support for minimum pricing.

Dr Brian Keighley, who is chairman of BMA Scotland, said: “The collection of signatures is to ask the politicians of all parties to pause and think again about the damage that alcohol is doing in their own constituencies .... to ponder the fact that while they have suggested alternative approaches through a commission and through taxation that they really have not brought something as effective, we believe, as minimum pricing.”

Signatories to the statement include Scotland’s previous chief medical officer Dr Mac Armstrong, actress Elaine C Smith, former rugby internationalist Scott Hastings and Detective Chief Superintendent John Carnochan, head of Scotland’s Violence Reduction Unit. The Labour group at Holyrood have become increasingly isolated over their opposition to the plans and the last few months has saw Labour colleagues in England and Wales voicing their support and seeking legislation to implement minimum pricing. Recent alternative proposals from Scottish Labour’s alcohol commission were roundly criticised after they were found to have had little or no evidence behind them.

Figures show that the SNPs plans would lead to 50 fewer deaths in the first year, 1200 fewer hospital admissions and a cut of £5.5 million in healthcare costs. There was a further blow to Iain Gray when former Labour First Minister Henry McLeish insisted that his party should back the proposals saying that not to do so would be a missed opportunity.

Mr McLeish said: “The use and abuse of alcohol is now reaching crisis proportions. As a nation we are simply awash with alcohol and this is having severe implications for every aspect of society and in every part of Scotland.” McLeish insisted that without minimum pricing Scotland would not be able to effectively tackle its chronic alcohol problems. He added: “I just fear if we miss this opportunity it is not going to return for many, many years if at all.”

However this week Labour’s Holyrood health Spokesperson Jackie Baillie stated that she thought that Scotland’s alcohol problems were part of a wider UK issue and were better left to Westminster...

So Labour think the smoking ban is something that can be legislated in Scotland, but alcohol, oh no, thats for our London masters to decide!

[Reynard]

http://newsnetscotla. ..minimum-pricing

So Labour think the smoking ban is something that can be legislated in Scotland, but alcohol, oh no, thats for our London masters to decide!

Both things are nanny government pish.

Politicians know best

[capybara]

http://newsnetscotla...minimum-pricing

So Labour think the smoking ban is something that can be legislated in Scotland, but alcohol, oh no, thats for our London masters to decide!

More Labour hypocrisy,we really should not be surprised. They act only in the interests of the Labour party.