Guest Caractacus Potts Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Regardless of discrepancies in the PPG between the two managers, there is more that remains the same than is different. We still cant lay a glove on teams above us, we havent climbed into the playoff places, we are still welded to a formation and a style regardless of how a game is unfolding. 0.25 ppg better off doesnt negate being in the same league position, with the same problems, and the same pish fitbaw on a Saturday. It’s not even 0.25, it’s 0.025! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 hours ago, cbhaf said: The thing to remember is Gary Miller's versatility. He can be equally as shite at RB as he is CM I've fixed that for you. It's another massive rebuild job in the summer so Rennie for me has the last 9 games to prove he deserves to be here next season. We've been playing just as bad under him as it was under Sheerin but as crazy as it is to say I actually think he's brought in better quality players. The playoffs are a lottery but given how we've performed against the teams above us this season even if we magically sneak into them there's no chance we'll go up. Especially with our midfield still being as piss poor as it is. Grim reading below. Goalkeepers Robbie Mutch - Out of contract Paddy Martin - June 2023 Luke Holt - June 2023 Defenders Paul Dixon - Out of contract Blair Sneddon - June 2023 Ryan Williamson - June 2023 Brad Mckay - June 2024 Leon McCann - June 2024 Cammy Williamson - June 2023 Mackenzie Lemon - June 2023 Aaron Taylor Sinclair - Out of contract Paul Watson - June 2023 Midfielders Callumn Morrison - June 2024 Gary Miller - Out of contract Steven Hetherington - June 2023 Aidan Nesbitt - June 2023 Charlie Telfer - Out of contract Craig Mcguffie - June 2023 Seb Ross - June 2023 Ben Weekes - June 2023 Strikers Leigh Griffiths - Out of contract Anton Dowds - Out of contract Jaime Wilson - June 2023 Samuel Ompreon - Out of contract 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 When Morrison's back fit for me we have to go to a 4 at the back. We're going to concede whether we play the 5 or not and the 4 at least allows us get players further up the park. Mutch Williamson Mills Watson Mccann Jacobs Morrison Telfer Mcguffie Dowds Griffiths/Kabia 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, FFC 1876 said: I've fixed that for you. It's another massive rebuild job in the summer so Rennie for me has the last 9 games to prove he deserves to be here next season. We've been playing just as bad under him as it was under Sheerin but as crazy as it is to say I actually think he's brought in better quality players. The playoffs are a lottery but given how we've performed against the teams above us this season even if we magically sneak into them there's no chance we'll go up. Especially with our midfield still being as piss poor as it is. Grim reading below. Goalkeepers Robbie Mutch - Out of contract Paddy Martin - June 2023 Luke Holt - June 2023 Defenders Paul Dixon - Out of contract Blair Sneddon - June 2023 Ryan Williamson - June 2023 Brad Mckay - June 2024 Leon McCann - June 2024 Cammy Williamson - June 2023 Mackenzie Lemon - June 2023 Aaron Taylor Sinclair - Out of contract Paul Watson - June 2023 Midfielders Callumn Morrison - June 2024 Gary Miller - Out of contract Steven Hetherington - June 2023 Aidan Nesbitt - June 2023 Charlie Telfer - Out of contract Craig Mcguffie - June 2023 Seb Ross - June 2023 Ben Weekes - June 2023 Strikers Leigh Griffiths - Out of contract Anton Dowds - Out of contract Jaime Wilson - June 2023 Samuel Ompreon - Out of contract All depends how the contracts are drawn up. Such as a get clause in the contract on a fixed sum should Falkirk not get promoted with our track record I doubt it. Compensation to punt them would have to come out of the squad budget. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: All depends how the contracts are drawn up. Such as a get clause in the contract on a fixed sum should Falkirk not get promoted with our track record I doubt it. Compensation to punt them would have to come out of the squad budget. It's Gary Holt we're talking about, incentive based probably means they all get a 5% wage increase for keeping us in league 1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Caractacus Potts said: How do you work that out? Sheerin 22 points in 16 games= 1.375/game Rennie 14 points in 10 games= 1.4/game If Rennie was to continue in the same form then another 6 games would give him a total of 22.4 points which would be rounded to 22 points, the exact same as Sheerin! What are the stats on Sheerin’s last 10 games before he was sacked? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbhaf Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 52 minutes ago, FFC 1876 said: We're going to concede whether we play the 5 or not 100% this. Picture is from just before EF goal on Saturday and it's a common theme for the season, plenty bodies back but doing nothing useful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blame Me Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, cbhaf said: 100% this. Picture is from just before EF goal on Saturday and it's a common theme for the season, plenty bodies back but doing nothing useful. From what I saw, Mills took the brunt of criticism for the loss of the goal on Saturday, as he didn't make the foul earlier in that passage-of-play. However, he did try and get something on the cross but got under it. AT-S horribly out of position and Gary Miller still trying to get out of 1st gear and track EF runner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, Blame Me said: From what I saw, Mills took the brunt of criticism for the loss of the goal on Saturday, as he didn't make the foul earlier in that passage-of-play. However, he did try and get something on the cross but got under it. AT-S horribly out of position and Gary Miller still trying to get out of 1st gear and track EF runner. What about Williamson not tracking the guy who scored? He isn’t even in the picture 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caractacus Potts Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Back Post Misses said: What are the stats on Sheerin’s last 10 games before he was sacked? 12 points from his last 10 league matches or if you want to pick his first 10 league matches it’s 14 in 10. If you want we can do their last 5 league matches instead- Sheerin 7, Rennie 8. Pick and choose whatever stats you like but the difference is hardly palpable and by your own admission, performances have been stinking. *Edited to change 11 points to 12 from Sheerin’s last 10 league matches Edited March 1, 2022 by Caractacus Potts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Puddefoot Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 hours ago, FFC 1876 said: I've fixed that for you. It's another massive rebuild job in the summer so Rennie for me has the last 9 games to prove he deserves to be here next season. We've been playing just as bad under him as it was under Sheerin but as crazy as it is to say I actually think he's brought in better quality players. The playoffs are a lottery but given how we've performed against the teams above us this season even if we magically sneak into them there's no chance we'll go up. Especially with our midfield still being as piss poor as it is. Grim reading below. Goalkeepers Robbie Mutch - Out of contract Paddy Martin - June 2023 Luke Holt - June 2023 Defenders Paul Dixon - Out of contract Blair Sneddon - June 2023 Ryan Williamson - June 2023 Brad Mckay - June 2024 Leon McCann - June 2024 Cammy Williamson - June 2023 Mackenzie Lemon - June 2023 Aaron Taylor Sinclair - Out of contract Paul Watson - June 2023 Midfielders Callumn Morrison - June 2024 Gary Miller - Out of contract Steven Hetherington - June 2023 Aidan Nesbitt - June 2023 Charlie Telfer - Out of contract Craig Mcguffie - June 2023 Seb Ross - June 2023 Ben Weekes - June 2023 Strikers Leigh Griffiths - Out of contract Anton Dowds - Out of contract Jaime Wilson - June 2023 Samuel Ompreon - Out of contract Aye grim reading but on a positive note, Dixon, Miller and Telfer can go..constants in our demise over 3 years. Ta ta. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, cbhaf said: 100% this. Picture is from just before EF goal on Saturday and it's a common theme for the season, plenty bodies back but doing nothing useful. We started with a back 4 on Saturday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 34 minutes ago, Caractacus Potts said: 11 points from his last 10 league matches or if you want to pick his first 10 league matches it’s 14 in 10. If you want we can do their last 5 league matches instead- Sheerin 7, Rennie 8. Pick and choose whatever stats you like but the difference is hardly palpable and by your own admission, performances have been stinking. There is a big difference to the comparisons though. Sheerin had a full pre season and time to pick the players he signed. Rennie had to take a team who’s confidence was shot and try and make something of it. I don’t like comparing straight stats as you’re not comparing apples with apples -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBlueArmy1876 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 I was impressed overall with Mills on Saturday. Yes, he's made two mistakes for the goal (actually should have won the ball back in the middle of the park as he had managed to get himself between the ball and EF player, then got caught underneath the cross) but ATS falling on his arse - not for the first time in the game - combined with Miller being too slow to get back meant Mills is left 2v1 in the middle. Saying that, although Miller has gone charging in for a ball he can't win and might not be able to run but at least he tries to get back, unlike Jacobs. His lack of desire to do anything at all on Saturday was getting on my tits even more than Miller's performance. 12 minutes ago, Syd Puddefoot said: Aye grim reading but on a positive note, Dixon, Miller and Telfer can go..constants in our demise over 3 years. Ta ta. Lumping Telfer in with a 35 year old Dixon and a 34 (35 next month) year old Miller is extremely harsh imo. I would keep him next season but agree the other two are absolutely done and should never have been given the contract extensions they were. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 hours ago, FFC 1876 said: I've fixed that for you. It's another massive rebuild job in the summer so Rennie for me has the last 9 games to prove he deserves to be here next season. We've been playing just as bad under him as it was under Sheerin but as crazy as it is to say I actually think he's brought in better quality players. The playoffs are a lottery but given how we've performed against the teams above us this season even if we magically sneak into them there's no chance we'll go up. Especially with our midfield still being as piss poor as it is. Grim reading below. Goalkeepers Robbie Mutch - Out of contract Paddy Martin - June 2023 Luke Holt - June 2023 Defenders Paul Dixon - Out of contract Blair Sneddon - June 2023 Ryan Williamson - June 2023 Brad Mckay - June 2024 Leon McCann - June 2024 Cammy Williamson - June 2023 Mackenzie Lemon - June 2023 Aaron Taylor Sinclair - Out of contract Paul Watson - June 2023 Midfielders Callumn Morrison - June 2024 Gary Miller - Out of contract Steven Hetherington - June 2023 Aidan Nesbitt - June 2023 Charlie Telfer - Out of contract Craig Mcguffie - June 2023 Seb Ross - June 2023 Ben Weekes - June 2023 Strikers Leigh Griffiths - Out of contract Anton Dowds - Out of contract Jaime Wilson - June 2023 Samuel Ompreon - Out of contract It would be virtually impossible to bring in worse mind you. The problem is that kabia and hopefully in the long run Griffith's are the only two significantly better than the duds we have/had. Jacobs is another midget midfielder he's better than hetherington but nothing exactly to blow about that. ATS is possibly better than hall although not by much . Watson is better than Mackay but Mackay still kept on getting a game for some incredible reason and the young boy at the back is a bit raw for me when your really needing a big physical brute to partner watson. Apart from up front we failed to solve the issues that we've had all season and that's why we're struggling when we come up against the better side. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caractacus Potts Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rocco said: There is a big difference to the comparisons though. Sheerin had a full pre season and time to pick the players he signed. Rennie had to take a team who’s confidence was shot and try and make something of it. I don’t like comparing straight stats as you’re not comparing apples with apples How about comparing it to Miller and McCracken who were in a similar situation? They got 22 points from their first 10 games in charge. Rennie was hired for his ability to turn things around quickly and I think 10 games is plenty to judge him. Hopefully things will turn around but that won’t change the fact that it’s been a poor start and that bringing in an ex international striker may prove to be the difference between him and Sheerin. Edited March 1, 2022 by Caractacus Potts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 40 minutes ago, Caractacus Potts said: 11 points from his last 10 league matches or if you want to pick his first 10 league matches it’s 14 in 10. If you want we can do their last 5 league matches instead- Sheerin 7, Rennie 8. Pick and choose whatever stats you like but the difference is hardly palpable and by your own admission, performances have been stinking. You're not taking the most relevant fact into account here though: Rennie was appointed by a board containing Back Post Misses' mates and Sheerin wasn't. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: You're not taking the most relevant fact into account here though: Rennie was appointed by a board containing Back Post Misses' mates and Sheerin wasn't. Aye fair enough, bring back Deans and the other arseholes that ran the club into the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, Caractacus Potts said: How about comparing it to Miller and McCracken who were in a similar situation? They got 22 points from their first 10 games in charge. Rennie was hired for his ability to turn things around quickly and I think 10 games is plenty to judge him. Hopefully things will turn around but that won’t change the fact that it’s been a poor start and that bringing in an ex international striker that may prove to be the difference between him and Sheerin. Did you read what I wrote? How is that a fair comparison? It’s a completely different squad of players. M&M did okay when they came in because they did the simple thing most managers would do and made McManus their number one striker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Puddefoot Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: You're not taking the most relevant fact into account here though: Rennie was appointed by a board containing Back Post Misses' mates and Sheerin wasn't. Christ years of failure and ineptitude, Lex, Andy Thomson, Deans, PR Guru ' the fans will need to understand' , Craig Campbell, Lang, Hartley , McKinnon, relegation etc etc and that's what you chose to point your finger at? Utterly pathetic stuff. Unless of course your welded to one of the above then its no surprise. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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