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5 minutes ago, Jambomo said:

I have a question about diet which I am hoping you guys can help me with. At the moment my boyfriend and I have been going to a personal trainer and he's very much of the clean eating mindset, no crap, just nice health veg and protein and carbs after working out which is generally fine.

We are really enjoying the exercise part of it but are a bit shoddy on the eating front and whilst we have managed to change a lot of our diet (i.e main meals are now veg based with lean protein, much fewer takeaways/ready meals etc) we struggle with not eating shite between meals i.e a bar of chocolate in  the afternoon at work or for him, a beer in the evening.

We both have a bit to lose so I wondered how much unhealthy eating habits hinder you in the short term and is the exercise pointless without the diet change as well? I did wonder if we could get used to the exercise and healthy main meals then down the line, once this becomes the new normal, try and cut out the crap or if it doesn't work like that.

Everyone has their own thoughts but intermittent fasting is the thing I've always found most effective. To lose weight quickly, have just 500 cals (600 for man) two days per week. It's not miserable like a diet and you can feel the good it's doing you. Plenty of books/audiobooks etc on it. I really enjoy exercising on a fast day - especially fast cardio stuff. I find it easier on days when I'm really busy yet others find it easier on days off. 

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19 minutes ago, Shandon Par said:

Everyone has their own thoughts but intermittent fasting is the thing I've always found most effective. To lose weight quickly, have just 500 cals (600 for man) two days per week. It's not miserable like a diet and you can feel the good it's doing you. Plenty of books/audiobooks etc on it. I really enjoy exercising on a fast day - especially fast cardio stuff. I find it easier on days when I'm really busy yet others find it easier on days off. 

Cheers, I'll have a look into it.

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On 27/06/2017 at 19:31, Scotty Tunbridge said:

Looking to join one of the 'franchise' gyms in the ml3 area. Does anyone have any experiences good or bad about the following gym brands:-

Xercise4Less
Pure Gym
The Gym Group

I go to the Pure Gyms in Edinburgh (Gorgie and Ocean Terminal and both are pretty good. I prefer the Ocean Terminal one as it's more spaced out and has more equipment and has a larger free weights area for #lifting but it depends on what you are after. The one in Gorgie is still perfectly decent just not as much equipment to use but it's not too busy even at peak times. There should be a 360 tour of the Motherwell one online so have a look at that and you can see what equipment is in there and you can always go in for a look around. One word of warning, you need to pay £5 for a padlock for the lockers at PG as they don't "lock". Save a bit of cash and get one out of B & Q for a fraction of the price.

Obviously a big appeal is the cost which is only about £20 a month and you can sign up for a few classes as well as part of the price. Now I've gotten into it I quite enjoy going again. Neither are as good as my old gym in Aberdeen (Aberdeen Sports Village) but in terms of value for money both are decent gyms, clean and tidy, decent kit, tough but enjoyable classes and being open 24 hours is good as well.

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2 hours ago, Jambomo said:

I have a question about diet which I am hoping you guys can help me with. At the moment my boyfriend and I have been going to a personal trainer and he's very much of the clean eating mindset, no crap, just nice health veg and protein and carbs after working out which is generally fine.

We are really enjoying the exercise part of it but are a bit shoddy on the eating front and whilst we have managed to change a lot of our diet (i.e main meals are now veg based with lean protein, much fewer takeaways/ready meals etc) we struggle with not eating shite between meals i.e a bar of chocolate in  the afternoon at work or for him, a beer in the evening.

We both have a bit to lose so I wondered how much unhealthy eating habits hinder you in the short term and is the exercise pointless without the diet change as well? I did wonder if we could get used to the exercise and healthy main meals then down the line, once this becomes the new normal, try and cut out the crap or if it doesn't work like that.

Would be interested to see what kind of shape this guy is in and whether he practises what he preaches.  Starting up a new training regime and overhauling diet all at once is a lot to ask for imo.  Keep going with the exercise and chip away (no pun intended) with your diet e.g. gradually cut down the crap whilst introducing good things like green veg.  You'll get there in time and if you're not actually competing for anything there's no rush.  Have a look at high fat/high protein/low carb diets as well, tasty and good for cutting body fat if done the right way.

The idea of dirty/clean bulking/cutting is pretty prehistoric imo. The body isn't a machine and there's smarter ways to manipulate fat loss/lean gain.

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When starting off, don't try do everything at once. Introduce something or take something out of your diet first. Then, a week or two later make another change.

I regularly binge on cookies and sweets an evening where I feel a bit down, I honestly wish I had the will power to keep saying no as I'd be in great shape instead of OK shape if I did.

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Would be interested to see what kind of shape this guy is in and whether he practises what he preaches.  Starting up a new training regime and overhauling diet all at once is a lot to ask for imo.  Keep going with the exercise and chip away (no pun intended) with your diet e.g. gradually cut down the crap whilst introducing good things like green veg.  You'll get there in time and if you're not actually competing for anything there's no rush.  Have a look at high fat/high protein/low carb diets as well, tasty and good for cutting body fat if done the right way.
The idea of dirty/clean bulking/cutting is pretty prehistoric imo. The body isn't a machine and there's smarter ways to manipulate fat loss/lean gain.


He certainly does seem to practice what he preaches and in fairness I've probably made him sound worse than he is! I don't think he is expecting instant change from us but yeah, I get the impression that the things are like are very things I should not be currently liking [emoji20][emoji23]
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Keep going with the exercise and chip away (no pun intended) with your diet e.g. gradually cut down the crap whilst introducing good things like green veg.  You'll get there in time and if you're not actually competing for anything there's no rush.  Have a look at high fat/high protein/low carb diets as well, tasty and good for cutting body fat if done the right way.


I had very pleasing and pretty painless progress going down this route.

Ditch potatoes. They are doing nothing for you.

Peanut butter with no sugar eg meridian, nuts in general, cheese - dive in. Dinnae even count calories.

Half the amount of bread you eat, you won't miss it.

Avoid sugar especially early in the day - what it does to your appetite is arguably worse than the calories.

Vodka soda if you need to booze. It's actually fine with a bit of lemon or lime.

Metafit classes really beast calories off you - recommended.

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I had very pleasing and pretty painless progress going down this route.

Ditch potatoes. They are doing nothing for you.

Peanut butter with no sugar eg meridian, nuts in general, cheese - dive in. Dinnae even count calories.

Half the amount of bread you eat, you won't miss it.

Avoid sugar especially early in the day - what it does to your appetite is arguably worse than the calories.

Vodka soda if you need to booze. It's actually fine with a bit of lemon or lime.

Metafit classes really beast calories off you - recommended.


Nothing wrong with potatoes. Just depends how you cook them. Far far worse sources of carbs. White mashed potato could be good post work out and sweet potato is very low GI.
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6 minutes ago, Stellaboz said:

Make time to run more. You'll fucking break yourself if you try a half without even doing some 5ks as training.

Yeah I'm basically thinking for the next two months I'll ditch weights etc and focus on running. But worried I'll go back to being stick thin though.

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Signed up to run a half marathon so will need to start doing some running as I've never even attempted a 5k. Only thing is I feel it'll be a struggle to keep up with my usual gym routine now. Anyone got any advice/tips?


Two month training plan is ideal for a half marathon tbh. It's crazy the development from how you may struggle to do a 5k but will quickly be up doing 10k.

I like to have a full week rest beforehand and have a 15k under my belt by then, but that's just me.

Good luck
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Lost around 40lbs in the last 9 or 10 months.......was eating way to much junk food.... blood pressure was dangerously high.
Now my diet consists of mainly chicken, rice and mushrooms and home made burgers.
Totally cut out the deep fried food and crisps ( except when I get back to Scotland now and again and can't resist the occasional fish supper from the chippie...not chipper.)
Blood pressure down to an acceptable level now and feeling better for it.
Will be back to cycling more in the next week or so to keep the muscles active.

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I'm down to 14st 3lbs from just under 16st at the beginning of the year, mainly due to cycling about 9 miles three or four times a week.

Tody though, I completed my first ever 5k run in about 27 minutes. Is this decent or pretty rubbish bearing in mind that I haven't even entertained running any distance for about 10 years!

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