RandomGuy. Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Cheers. Taken him a while to get his shit together! I think he's been pretty much cockless agaisnt the Wall until he got himself a Dragon, tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 They were all heading to the wall before they got a dragon anyway. Like finding a tenner on the way to the pub, the dragon was a bonus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: I think he's been pretty much cockless agaisnt the Wall until he got himself a Dragon, tbh. I could see the sense in that if he had got himself the dragon first, and then thought "Hey, this is useful, let's raise the army of the dead and get ourselves down to the wall". But he was marching for the wall regardless, so if Danerys hadn't brought him a dragon, what was he gonna do when he got there. Stare at it menacingly? Shake his fist at it aggressively? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Presumably they would attack the gate at the tunnel through the Wall at Eastwatch and then pass south of the Wall there? I assume the magic the Wall has that Bejen Stark told Bran about just stops the undead attacking parts of the actual Wall given that we've seen now that a wight can survive south of it? Although Benjen did say it stopped the undead passing beyond the wall, so who knows? We don't really know how said magic works though, so it's just speculation really. Also there's theories that the mark the Night King put on Bran has allowed the undead to pass beyond the wall once Bran had done so. Edited September 11, 2017 by DA Baracus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 There's also a theory that they planned to trap Jon and use him as bait for Danerys to bring her dragons, thus allowing them to kill and then 'turn' one to bring down the Wall (or at least the part they do demolish). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 The whole mark on Bran/can't pass the wall /Magic is something that hasn't been explained at all and smells very much of the D's suffering from not having the book to use. I genuinely don't envy them having to write from season 5 onward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I could see the sense in that if he had got himself the dragon first, and then thought "Hey, this is useful, let's raise the army of the dead and get ourselves down to the wall". But he was marching for the wall regardless, so if Danerys hadn't brought him a dragon, what was he gonna do when he got there. Stare at it menacingly? Shake his fist at it aggressively? Probably try and climb over it similar to the Wildlings. His story so far is pretty vague, so we've no idea when he actually started heading towards the Wall, the fact he can see into future events maybe suggests he only started heading South when he realised there was a chance of getting a dragon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Also there's theories that the mark the Night King put on Bran has allowed the undead to pass beyond the wall once Bran had done so. Like wi Harry Potter & Voldemort? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Presumably they would attack the gate at the tunnel through the Wall at Eastwatch and then pass south of the Wall there? I assume the magic the Wall has that Bejen Stark told Bran about just stops the undead attacking parts of the actual Wall given that we've seen now that a wight can survive south of it? Although Benjen did say it stopped the undead passing beyond the wall, so who knows? We don't really know how said magic works though, so it's just speculation really. Also there's theories that the mark the Night King put on Bran has allowed the undead to pass beyond the wall once Bran had done so. Was there plan not to wait for the bay at Eastwach to freeze (or freeze it themselves)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, kiddy said: Like wi Harry Potter & Voldemort? Harry Potter is shite. 45 minutes ago, ajwffc said: Was there plan not to wait for the bay at Eastwach to freeze (or freeze it themselves)? No idea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Another thing; I thought Theon only had his boaby cut off, not his balls? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Another thing; I thought Theon only had his boaby cut off, not his balls? He doesn't have anything cut off in the book, only "flayed" (as per the Bolton's sygil). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 He doesn't have anything cut off in the book, only "flayed" (as per the Bolton's sygil). ^^^ I've read the books btw type post IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamdunk Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 On 9/11/2017 at 00:41, MONKMAN said: Rhaegal is named after Rhaegar (Jon's Dad), her older brother. Although he died during Roberts rebellion, before she was born. I think GRRM messed up cause in the houses appendix at the end of a Game of Thrones he says that Rhaegar & Dany's mum was widowed at 14, so how can she have 2 children to the same dad that far apart in ages? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamdunk Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Moving away from the convention nerd style criticism, been watching through the whole thing with my burd. What an episode the Night's watch vs the Wildlings at castle black is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Prince Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I read a theory that is quite complicated for me to explain but I'll give it a bash. When the Night King was created and turned, the children of the forest and first men teamed up to drive them north which ended with Bran the builder erecting (snarf) the wall. Apparently there was a pact that they agreed to that allowed the white walkers to control north of the wall and leave the southerners to their own devices. So anyone north of the wall was fair game. If you remember way back at the start of the TV shows, the white walkers allowed the member of the nights watch to get away and subsequently didn't harm him. Then Sam killed a white Walker with dragon-glass which meant the pact was finished - one of them had been killed by a southerner. Dunno if I've explained that right tbh but I hope you get my drift. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 If I've read you right TGP, basically what we're saying is that Sam is a warmongering c**t, shot the Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand, and kicked off this whole living v dead shambles. Fucking Sam... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Anyone else a fan of the Bald Move podcasts? I look forward to them every season almost as much as the season itself.Cast of Kings is alright, David is good but that Joanna is a snobby, know it all cow who likes to spoil it for herself. Total c**t. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, kiddy said: He doesn't have anything cut off in the book, only "flayed" (as per the Bolton's sygil). I don't care. I've not read the books. I'm talking about the TV show. Incidentally a quick Wiki suggests that he does have his boaby cut off in the books. Edited September 12, 2017 by DA Baracus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I don't care. I've not read the books. I'm talking about the TV show. Incidentally a quick Wiki suggests that he does have his boaby cut off in the books. If it's in Wiki it must be true! [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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